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I heard someone say firmware 2.08 is out in the wild in some of the new deliveries. Any news on when we'll get access to the next firmware release? I'm looking forward to fixes and improvements. I think these projectors still need a fair bit of work.
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I know the likelihood of a new NX line being announced at CEDIA is basically zero, but do any of you think that a (very) small price reduction on the current line is in the cards?
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Why would they lower the price? They can't keep these in stock. In europe they're still very hard to find. Price decreases come when they have an over supply. That's not the case at all here.
I agree with Mark.

Alex, I think this NX series offers a lot for the money already. Are you also assuming that street pricing is the same as MSRP?
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I heard someone say firmware 2.08 is out in the wild in some of the new deliveries. Any news on when we'll get access to the next firmware release? I'm looking forward to fixes and improvements. I think these projectors still need a fair bit of work.
2.08 will not be a public release. It has some very minor fixes.
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You need a cellar program that tracks drink by dates, and you should check both Cellar Tracker's tasting notes and Wine Spectator. I have 800 bottles. You have to be on top of things. Opened a 2003 Domaine Du Pegau Chateauneuf du Pape Cuvee Reservee last night for friends. At 16 years old it is drinking just fine. I keep them at 56 degrees and 55 - 60% humidity.

Damn - I just made myself thirsty.
Ah well my cellar isn't really worth it, the few very good bottles ( 8 actually ! but I have about 200 others) are what remains from my late father's cellar, and guess what .... I live an hour drive away from Chateau Neuf du Pape ... ah ah !

But I have a fair collection of Banyul's "Vin Doux Naturel" (sweet natural wine and another 1 1/2 hour drive) for desserts or foie gras and among them only 3 bottles left ( ) of Grand Cru cuvée spéciale President Henry Vidal dating back 1981 , we opened one with my wife last December for our 51's marriage anniversary, and it was gorgeous, those Banyuls VDN's can be kept for 100 years

Drink with moderation they say ........

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Why would they lower the price? They can't keep these in stock. In europe they're still very hard to find. Price decreases come when they have an over supply. That's not the case at all here.
Markmon1, that is fair, and expected. I guess the question comes down to one of 2 options (as my spouse demanded budget allows): either an nx5 with a cheap Silver Ticket screen or a x790r (rs540) with a more expensive (stewart cima level) screen. As someone with a myriad of JVC experience, which would you do?
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Markmon1, that is fair, and expected. I guess the question comes down to one of 2 options (as my spouse demanded budget allows): either an nx5 with a cheap Silver Ticket screen or a x790r (rs540) with a more expensive (stewart cima level) screen. As someone with a myriad of JVC experience, which would you do?
Your best picture will probably come from the RS540/ Cima combination. That is assuming you have a good way to do HDR tone mapping, like the Panasonic. Just too much texture on the Silver Ticket, when compared to the Cima.
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Your best picture will probably come from the RS540/ Cima combination. That is assuming you have a good way to do HDR tone mapping, like the Panasonic. Just too much texture on the Silver Ticket, when compared to the Cima.
Yeah, I have the panny ub 820, so I should be good to go on HDR optimization.
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Do you mean that I should have kept my brand new still in its box X7900 like good wine et let it get better ?
Its not going to get better, but for the price point the 540U will stand its ground VS everything out there, especially after you factor in the price. I know @Craig Peer will say something about the RS4500 but someone can get a 540U, a Jet Ski, and a motorcycle for the same cost....lol
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Its not going to get better, but for the price point the 540U will stand its ground VS everything out there, especially after you factor in the price. I know @Craig Peer will say something about the RS4500 but someone can get a 540U, a Jet Ski, and a motorcycle for the same cost....lol
The RS540 is a good projector for the money. But it's no RS4500. And I don't want a jet ski or a motorcycle. I'd rather have my RS4500. If you take that thinking too far you'll wind up thinking box wine and the McDonald's $1.00 menu as haute cuisine.
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Markmon1, that is fair, and expected. I guess the question comes down to one of 2 options (as my spouse demanded budget allows): either an nx5 with a cheap Silver Ticket screen or a x790r (rs540) with a more expensive (stewart cima level) screen. As someone with a myriad of JVC experience, which would you do?
I've had my Cima Neve for almost 6 years now. It is an excellent screen. I have no reason to ever change it. Get the better screen, and you will not regret it. They are not that expensive. Let me know if you want a sample ( email me ) - I have one I could drop in the mail.
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My opinion too. I have the Cima Neve and it’s a very good screen you can keep it for many years to come. Projector technology change way faster and down the road it is easier to upgrade the projector than the screen.
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My opinion too. I have the Cima Neve and it’s a very good screen you can keep it for many years to come. Projector technology change way faster and down the road it is easier to upgrade the projector than the screen.
Changing screens - especially electric screens, can be a real pain. And the screen is a big part of how good any projector ultimately looks.
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For those of you that wear prescription glasses like me, I'm happy to report that the 3D glasses from the JVC store ( https://store.jvc.com/ ) fit around my glasses without touching or scratching them and seem to be no problem so far, although I only watched about 20 minutes of content so far. The bad news is that one pair I received was not holding a charge in the battery and I sent it back for an exchange about a week ago. No news yet. On the upside, the US parts store picked up the phone right away and they were just as attentive as the regular US help desk was when I called them a couple of times with questions.
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Just getting caught up the last few pages and wanted to chime in on the Zoom (17:9) function.

I've gone back and forth on the best 4K material I own and can't detect any negative impact from scaling on content from far closer than I watch it from. Also, it is a bit brighter.

So I would suggest anyone with a wider AR screen should consider using it for the slight brightness bump. If you are worried about the scaling flip back and forth on a few sources and judge for yourself. It seems a bit silly that the more aggressive scaling we use with anamorphic lenses is never brought up as a problem, but this is. And for the record, the A-lenses I've seen don't seem to suffer any scaling anomalies either.

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The RS540 is a good projector for the money. But it's no RS4500. And I don't want a jet ski or a motorcycle. I'd rather have my RS4500. If you take that thinking too far you'll wind up thinking box wine and the McDonald's $1.00 menu as haute cuisine.
I know, I was just playing around as i am sure you already new Life is way to short for anything on a fast food menu, not to mention it will indeed shorten your life. Boxed wine is just out of the question......lol.
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Markmon1, that is fair, and expected. I guess the question comes down to one of 2 options (as my spouse demanded budget allows): either an nx5 with a cheap Silver Ticket screen or a x790r (rs540) with a more expensive (stewart cima level) screen. As someone with a myriad of JVC experience, which would you do?
I hate sparkles and texture on the screen. My eyes just seem to go right to it. I orginally had a silver ticket screen, and couldnt stand it for that very reason. I upgraded to a neve screen about 3 yrs ago, and its great. No sparkles to my eyes.

So if your sensitive to that, I would go with the neve/540 combo. Just IMO of course

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I know, I was just playing around as i am sure you already new Life is way to short for anything on a fast food menu, not to mention it will indeed shorten your life. Boxed wine is just out of the question......lol.
I feel very fortunate to be able to own an RS4500. It's taken many years and many projector / home theater upgrades to get here ( and a couple of wife upgrades ). If I couldn't afford my RS4500, I'd be pretty happy with an RS1000 / 2000 or 3000. The RS1000 that was here a couple of weeks ago looked outstanding. What I wouldn't do is drink box wine to save up the difference. I have to draw the line somewhere !
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I hate sparkles and texture on the screen. My eyes just seem to go right to it. I orginally had a silver ticket screen, and couldnt stand it for that very reason. I upgraded to a neve screen about 3 yrs ago, and its great. No sparkles to my eyes.

So if your sensitive to that, I would go with the neve/540 combo. Just IMO of course
The Silver Ticket matte white and matte grey screens have zero sparkles. Their silver screen, on the other hand, has horrible sparkles.

Their best material is the 1.3 gain white screen. No texture and no sparkles, but only available as raw material, size 62”x112”. I used it to replace my 1.1 gain matte white.
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A few pages back there was some discussion lamenting that JVC didn't have a lower end option for this lineup. Although it doesn't qualify as its own product, the b-stock options for the NX5 are VERY attractively priced. Just hit up the dealers in this thread.
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I feel very fortunate to be able to own an RS4500. It's taken many years and many projector / home theater upgrades to get here ( and a couple of wife upgrades ). If I couldn't afford my RS4500, I'd be pretty happy with an RS1000 / 2000 or 3000. The RS1000 that was here a couple of weeks ago looked outstanding. What I wouldn't do is drink box wine to save up the difference. I have to draw the line somewhere !


The nx5/rs1000 is a hell of a pj for the money isn’t it
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The nx5/rs1000 is a hell of a pj for the money isn’t it
It is. Out of the box settings looked awesome on my Cima Neve screen -
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The RS540 is a good projector for the money. But it's no RS4500. And I don't want a jet ski or a motorcycle. I'd rather have my RS4500. If you take that thinking too far you'll wind up thinking box wine and the McDonald's $1.00 menu as haute cuisine.
Hey I have the NX7 and have been considering upgrading my 110" 16:9 Carada for a 125" 2:35 Cina Neve. I havn't had the opportunity to view a Cima Neve in person but lots of people compliment it highly. If possible, I'd love to take you up on that sample.

BTW, just a general update, I'm a little over 50 hours on my NX7 and its working fantastic. NO issues. I always use the color filter and have yet to see the "yellowing" being referred to in some of the posts. Perhaps I have not watched enough content but it has not shown up once. I still have not calibrated mine or tweak many of the settings at all. Looking to do a Gamma calibration with a Spyder 5 soon, likely then get a real calibration done after the 100h mark....although I am considering the new screen and am likely to wait until we decide on that.
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Hi guys,

Quick question—- on my rs2000 I’m getting three or so defined white lines curved not quite semi circular that stand out on white backgrounds like clouds. Don’t see it on black background or when pic has color. Sorry don’t have pics of it right now. Any ideas what this could be and should I worry about it i.e. ask dealer for replacement projector——everything else seems to be working fine so far. Thanks.

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So I did a whole re-calibration of my NX5 from the start with a fresh autocal and fresh 3DLUT.

Here are my results (everything is calibrated and measured against DCI-P3):

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3DLUT was created in DisplayCAL with just 115 patches.

It's pretty nice, I now got 90% DCI-P3 coverage and 95.8% DCI-P3 volume.

I really love the results that I see in movies when I toggle the 3DLUT on and off. Every scene is better with the 3DLUT on.
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So I did a whole re-calibration of my NX5 from the start with a fresh autocal and fresh 3DLUT.

3DLUT was created in DisplayCAL with just 115 patches.
Just wondering as I have a I1 Display Pro and DisplayCal for my photo monitor calibration I noticed this 3DLUT stuff before but does it require some extra hardware ?
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NIT measurement

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Can someone tell me if the R.Masciola 4k test patterns contain a full screen bright white pattern that I can use my light meter for to measure nits? OR any other suggestions? Thanks folks...

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Just wondering as I have a I1 Display Pro and DisplayCal for my photo monitor calibration I noticed this 3DLUT stuff before but does it require some extra hardware ?
Not really.

Ideally you would also create a colorimeter correction from a reference spectrometer first.

I uploaded mine and you can use it with your i1 Display Pro to make it read JVC LCoS projectors more accurately as the spectrometer does.

https://colorimetercorrections.displ...Spyder4&html=1


The 3DLUT process is really only good if you are using madVR, so that you have somewhere to actually load the LUT. Or you could create a 3DLUT for a Lumagen as well.
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Can someone tell me if the R.Masciola 4k test patterns contain a full screen bright white pattern that I can use my light meter for to measure nits? OR any other suggestions? Thanks folks...
Yes, a 100% full screen white in his patterns. I use it to check my lamp levels.
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Not really.

Ideally you would also create a colorimeter correction from a reference spectrometer first.

I uploaded mine and you can use it with your i1 Display Pro to make it read JVC LCoS projectors more accurately as the spectrometer does.

https://colorimetercorrections.displ...Spyder4&html=1


The 3DLUT process is really only good if you are using madVR, so that you have somewhere to actually load the LUT. Or you could create a 3DLUT for a Lumagen as well.
OK, got it now, I was aware of 3D LUT use within photoshop as a seperate color adjustment layer, but was wondering how to use it with a projector.

Also having a Colormunki Photo spectro I will use it to correct my I1 D3 with DisplayCal,

Another question does this colorimeter correction mandatorily been done with my projector reading the screen or can I do it using my monitor ? (would be easier the latter way, but maybe not as accurate ?)
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