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Cool (sorry my memory was failing me). Let us know how it looks! The brightness -3 on the JVC seems sample dependent so just play with it until you start clipping black (some report -2).
Thanks, I can BARELY see bar 68 at -2, so that’s where mine is set...my contrast however is +7 as I set it to clip at 1000 nits using R.Masciola white clipping pattern...sounds high to me but that’s how high I needed to raise it to clip at 1000 nits...

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Thanks, I can BARELY see bar 68 at -2, so that’s where mine is set...my contrast however is +7 as I set it to clip at 1000 nits using R.Masciola white clipping pattern...sounds night to me but that’s how high I needed to raise it to clip at 1000 nits...
Under the HDR (PQ)/tone mapping menu what is your mapping level set to? Before adjusting that I found I had to bump contrast a lot to get a decent white level (+9 or 10 iirc). I ended up at 3 for mapping level and +1 on contrast.

But if what you have is working and looks good you may want to leave it be.

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Under the HDR (PQ)/tone mapping menu what is your mapping level set to? Before adjusting that I found I had to bump contrast a lot to get a decent white level (+9 or 10 iirc). I ended up at 3 for mapping level and +1 on contrast.

But if what you have is working and looks good you may want to leave it be.
Interesting...ok, that sounds like we were similar...my JVC TMapping is 0...

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So for titles with metadata, once you get the base settings right it will look good. Auto-tonemapping kicks in and you're set.

The controls under the HDR optimizer and the JVC tone controls really only need to be monkeyed with when the disc lacks metadata (like most all Disney titles). Which is why I put in the suggested settings for Disney. I find the Panasonic HDR optimizer easier to dial in so I use it to deal with these titles and leave the JVC controls alone.

Calibrators will dial in the base gamma and color profiles which the tone controls rely on. But the tone controls themselves still need to be adjusted when a title lacks the proper metadata even after calibration.
Thanks, I’m actually double TMapping...optimizer on Panny always on...I “think” Kris Deering and others like it...

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Under the HDR (PQ)/tone mapping menu what is your mapping level set to? Before adjusting that I found I had to bump contrast a lot to get a decent white level (+9 or 10 iirc). I ended up at 3 for mapping level and +1 on contrast.

But if what you have is working and looks good you may want to leave it be.
Adjusting the JVC TMapping didn’t change my white clipping level...I’m now at +9 contrast, -4 brightness on the JVC and +3 for Dynamic range adjuster on panny...this was all set with panny optimizer ON...

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N7 calibration observation and question

When using my JVC N7 with Panny 820, and using 4K black and white clipping patterns, with Panny optimizer on or off, brightness is -4, contrast is +9. When using my HiMedia Q10 Pro streamer with 4K mkv’s, using same test patterns brightness is -2, contrast is 7...

Does it make sense that the 2 devices would need different brightness and contrast levels? Does it tell me that the video processor in the Panny is that much more refined?

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I’m thinking of buying an NX7, but read a review that mentioned its upscaling left a bit to be desired. I watch a fair bit of sports and TV shows on the xfinity X1 platform on my Sony HW55es. Will the NX7 not perform well in this situation?
If only everything can be filmed, transferred, and displayed in 4K. You can only do so much with the content sent in.

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Thanks Cleveland for the thoughts. The thing is though, as I understand it, I don’t think it’s a uniformity problem——it’s actually three distinct clear white lines that show up (wish it were clearer in my pic, sorry) almost as though something in light path causes that pattern just on that one small part of screen. Otherwise I think my white and color field uniformity is pretty good. My dealer is coming to finish off a bit of work on my installation so I guess I will show him and go from there. Thanks again for your opinion on this.

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I wish that pic was clearer to I will say weather it is uniformity or a defect a choice on what do do has to be made, to fix or live with. Let us know what your dealer says, as I guess he gets to see it first hand......
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On my rs2000 I’m getting three or so defined white lines curved not quite semi circular that stand out on white backgrounds like clouds. Don’t see it on black background or when pic has color. Any ideas what this might be and is it something I need to be concerned about. Thanks!



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Some kind of reflection off something shiny in the room? Can you take a photo further back of the room to see it overall, highlighting the position of the marks on the screen?

I doubt it is on the lens.

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Thanks for the input. I’m a newbie so just to confirm, how do I check if it’s a screen issue or not. Also, I’m not quite following the flip the image suggestion. Thanks

Ron
Grab a piece of white printer paper and put it over the area and see if its still visible.

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Can the rs2000 be controlled by IP address and how?
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I'm fully frame matched (24 hz for 24fps) with CMD On high now. Panning scenes are smooth and the backgrounds are in focus not a blurry mess. I don't care what the director intended, he's not here. If I can improve upon his work I will.
Yeah I don't blame you. The whole "director's intent" thing is BS. Tune the picture to whatever you and your audience like best. Some people just really love soap operas. Nothing wrong with that

I'm just one of those people who hates the panning judder but hates soap operas even more.
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Yeah I don't blame you. The whole "director's intent" thing is BS. Tune the picture to whatever you and your audience like best. Some people just really love soap operas. Nothing wrong with that

I'm just one of those people who hates the panning judder but hates soap operas even more.

Are movies not shot at 23.976 fps, not 24 ?

When I check all my Blu-rays with BDInfo, I'm pretty sure that all of them in my collection with the exception of one, are all 23.976fps.
The one exception being a region "B" Blu-ray from the UK, "City of Ember"


I have my video card set at 23 Hz refresh rate (23.976) not 24.


https://www.videohelp.com/software/BDInfo


I haven't tried it with a 4K disc.


I think Woofer is another one that like CMD on high too.
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Yes. On PC you can use my JVCControl app.
http://www.hifiandtheater.com/jvccon...p-control-app/

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Are movies not shot at 23.976 fps, not 24 ?

When I check all my Blu-rays with BDInfo, I'm pretty sure that all of them in my collection with the exception of one, are all 23.976fps.
The one exception being a region "B" Blu-ray from the UK, "City of Ember"


I have my video card set at 23 Hz refresh rate (23.976) not 24.


https://www.videohelp.com/software/BDInfo


I haven't tried it with a 4K disc.


I think Woofer is another one that like CMD on high too.
Sorry, I just use 24 for short. I'm also using 23.976.
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Are movies not shot at 23.976 fps, not 24 ?

When I check all my Blu-rays with BDInfo, I'm pretty sure that all of them in my collection with the exception of one, are all 23.976fps.
The one exception being a region "B" Blu-ray from the UK, "City of Ember"


I have my video card set at 23 Hz refresh rate (23.976) not 24.


https://www.videohelp.com/software/BDInfo


I haven't tried it with a 4K disc.


I think Woofer is another one that like CMD on high too.
Movies are typically shot at 24 fps and converted to 23.976 Hz for home release.
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Are movies not shot at 23.976 fps, not 24 ?
Practically all movies are shot at 24 fps. Its only in the US that production companies do their final home entertainment mastering at 23.976, slowing the film down slightly from the original rate; This is for comparability with US HDTV broadcast (23.976*5/2 = NTSC rate). European market releases have always been mastered at 24fps and sped up to 25fps at broadcast.

Up until a few years ago all US video based editing was done at 23.976 and the hardware behind the scenes managed the frame rate anomalies automatically
The final product is 24fps on film/digital master; and later conformed for video at 23.976 for broadcast

Nowadays the entire digital chain is 24fps. The only time you see 23.976 is for the US broadcast master.
real 24fps masters on itunes/netflix etc are quite common now
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[QUOTE=markmon1;58434844]Yes. On PC you can use my JVCControl app.
http://www.hifiandtheater.com/jvccon...p-control-app/

Thanks, can it be done with iPhone/iPad? I’m not as smart as many around here so I apologize for my ignorance!
Nice photo’s on your site, only saw three pictures. I know the one is not yours (snell/Mac setup), anymore of your setup?How can I see them? What SS processor do you have?

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Yes. On PC you can use my JVCControl app.

http://www.hifiandtheater.com/jvccon...p-control-app/



Thanks, can it be done with iPhone/iPad? I’m not as smart as many around here so I apologize for my ignorance!



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I made a program that allows you to control your HT devices such as JVC from an iPhone/iPad or really any device with a web browser.

I’m willing to help you get it set up if you like.

The only limitation is that the program must run on a Windows PC somewhere in your network. It's not a standalone iOS app since you need to put it on the App Store for that to work.

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I wrote my own as well, mine is probably bespoke to my setup (jriver, jvc pj, hdmi capture) but I did break out the rest api back that can talk to a jvc pj from a web browser separately. You can find that at https://github.com/3ll3d00d/pyjvcpj (can make builds for osx or some linux distros easily enough)

I use it from my remote (web)app - https://github.com/3ll3d00d/ezmote - so if you use something similar then I imagine it would be easy enough to add that in (not plug and play or a standalone thing though)

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@markmon1 , @SirMaster , @3ll3d00d - nicely done! And quite cool of you to offer it up.
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Thanks, can it be done with iPhone/iPad? I’m not as smart as many around here so I apologize for my ignorance!
Nice photo’s on your site, only saw three pictures. I know the one is not yours (snell/Mac setup), anymore of your setup?How can I see them? What SS processor do you have?

PeterV
Yea those were place holder photos. My theater is all function no form. Here are some photos of my setup. My main seat is the front row, which is 7 feet from the screen in a 21 foot room which puts me in the front 1/3 of the room (back into the sound sweet spot).
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Nice indeed, what are those vents deflectors for ? heat ? noise ?
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Nice indeed, what are those vents deflectors for ? heat ? noise ?
They actually reduce the noise a ton if you're sitting in front of the projector. They come stock in USA with RS4500.

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Good option, should not be too difficult to adapt on one of the new N series, possible to get them separately ?
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Good option, should not be too difficult to adapt on one of the new N series, possible to get them separately ?
I don't know - they wont fit the N series. The vents are different. Im sure someone inventive could make some that could be 3d printed though.

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I don't know - they wont fit the N series. The vents are different. Im sure someone inventive could make some that could be 3d printed though.
Or with thin 1 mm PVC sheet, will have to think about it !
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I don't know - they wont fit the N series. The vents are different. Im sure someone inventive could make some that could be 3d printed though.
Your setup is very cool. I even was looking at those wall sconces to put in my theater. Thanks for sharing!

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Any facts or rumors about the 2020 model JVCs?
LOL, we're one month out from CEDIA, pretty sure the big news will be revealed then

That said, I just installed one more (final?) bulb in my 4810 in the hopes a reasonably priced laser PJ is announced soon. So I'm really curious about that.
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Any facts or rumors about the 2020 model JVCs?
A week or so ago, Mike Garrett confirmed that JVC will not be releasing anything new this year.
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And yet I wager there will be at least one person who will talk himself into believe they are going to release something new.
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