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I am having a JVC NX7/RS2000 installed with an SI 2.40:1 screen. The installer wants to add a Panamorph Anamorphic lens at an extra $5,500. Is the lens really worth the extra cost.
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As I just bought and installed a new N7 I do hope JVC will not anounce any new one before long .....
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Hi folks...looking for some technical help and a process for testing...I have the N7 and 4K Sony 85” 900F...I’m running an Anthem 1120 with one monitor out to the pj and one monitor out to the tv...

The issue I’m having is if I’m watching a movie with the N7 and then want to switch the tv on after turning the pj off, I get no picture on the tv until I unplug the pj monitor out...Also sometimes when playing an hdr disc on the pj, only SDR will play as for some reason the “chain” thinks the lowest resolution device is only capeable of sdr...the only fix for me so far is to disconnect the monitor out for the tv when using the pj and visa versa...this sounds like an Edid resolution issue to me...

Can one of you bright technical folks suggest a fix so I can run dual monitor outs w/o having to disconnect one OR suggest a debugging process to determine which one is giving me the issue OR suggest if there is an HDFURY device that may resolve this or any other piece of hardware as simple as some type of HDMI splitter...thanks folks...

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Hi folks...looking for some technical help and a process for testing...I have the N7 and 4K Sony 85” 900F...I’m running an Anthem 1120 with one monitor out to the pj and one monitor out to the tv...

The issue I’m having is if I’m watching a movie with the N7 and then want to switch the tv on after turning the pj off, I get no picture on the tv until I unplug the pj monitor out...Also sometimes when playing an hdr disc on the pj, only SDR will play as for some reason the “chain” thinks the lowest resolution device is only capeable of sdr...the only fix for me so far is to disconnect the monitor out for the tv when using the pj and visa versa...this sounds like an Edid resolution issue to me...

Can one of you bright technical folks suggest a fix so I can run dual monitor outs w/o having to disconnect one OR suggest a debugging process to determine which one is giving me the issue OR suggest if there is an HDFURY device that may resolve this or any other piece of hardware as simple as some type of HDMI splitter...thanks folks...
Have you made sure all CEC control has been turned off on all connected components? I’m not sure if the N7 even has CEC control but I’m sure the 900F does and perhaps the Anthem.

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Have you made sure all CEC control has been turned off on all connected components? I’m not sure if the N7 even has CEC control but I’m sure the 900F does and perhaps the Anthem.
Thanks Clark, yes all off Sir...

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Thanks Clark, yes all off Sir...
Still sounds like a CEC issue but perhaps a ghost signal is remaining in the HDMI chain. The order of components turning on and off can leave certain gear locked to an input. Check this out from Denon’s FAQ....

The power on order can be a key issue as to whether or not the HDMI signals will pass through the system. For best results, the receiver should be powered on first, then the TV, and lastly the source device(s). The reason for this has to do with getting the equipment to communicate properly for the HDCP protocol and correct EDID response.

Perhaps just a shutdown and startup may solve the issue versus having to unplug anything.

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Is anybody using the heavy duty chief VCM mount with their 4K projector (RS1000-RS3000)? If so, which model fits the hole pattern? I'm using the smaller chief mount (RPM) and it's great with just the projector, but once I put the Paladin DCR on things get a little front heavy and maintaining tilt has proven somewhat difficult.
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Is anybody using the heavy duty chief VCM mount with their 4K projector (RS1000-RS3000)? If so, which model fits the hole pattern? I'm using the smaller chief mount (RPM) and it's great with just the projector, but once I put the Paladin DCR on things get a little front heavy and maintaining tilt has proven somewhat difficult.
You using the mount with the gear adjustment? RPMA + SLM281 combo >>> This has gear adjustment.
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Still sounds like a CEC issue but perhaps a ghost signal is remaining in the HDMI chain. The order of components turning on and off can leave certain gear locked to an input. Check this out from Denon’s FAQ....

The power on order can be a key issue as to whether or not the HDMI signals will pass through the system. For best results, the receiver should be powered on first, then the TV, and lastly the source device(s). The reason for this has to do with getting the equipment to communicate properly for the HDCP protocol and correct EDID response.

Perhaps just a shutdown and startup may solve the issue versus having to unplug anything.
Thanks Clark...I “think” I’ve tried just about every combo...the pj even has a hard wired kill switch and even when I kill power to the pj with HDMI connected, still no tv...I’ve tried with both active and non active HDMI cables...ya know, some days I think we can send men to the moon but...

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...I “think” I’ve tried just about every combo...
Have you tried power cycling the Anthem 1120 between PJ and TV usage?
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I am having a JVC NX7/RS2000 installed with an SI 2.40:1 screen. The installer wants to add a Panamorph Anamorphic lens at an extra $5,500. Is the lens really worth the extra cost.
Whether the extra cost will be worth it to you is really a question that nobody here can answer for you. It depends on many factors, including your budget, how important to you are certain improvements in picture quality, the dimensions of your screen, room conditions, the "wife acceptance factor" (if applicable), etc.

I think the best thing to do is to try to get some comments from people who have the lens regarding what degree of improvement they see in PQ from such a lens, and what other advantages and disadvantages they believe come with such a lens.

FWIW, I have an RS2000 that I use with a 2.35:1 screen that is 122 inches wide and I just use the zoom method for widescreen movies. I think the picture is awesome and very detailed, even with 1080p material, and I could not justify spending another $5,500 for an anamorphic lens. OTOH, I'm semi-retired, so I really look at the costs associated with marginal improvements in things like this. For some with different financial situations or different preferences, it might be a no brainer to add an anamorphic lens.

I'm not sure this helps a lot, but I thought maybe this would trigger some responses by people who have added such a lens to their NX7/RS2000.
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Have you tried power cycling the Anthem 1120 between PJ and TV usage?
Thanks, the problem is when both monitors outs are plugged in, neither device will operate properly. Tv comes up with no pic, pj fires up in SDR, until 1 monitor out is disconnected...

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I am having a JVC NX7/RS2000 installed with an SI 2.40:1 screen. The installer wants to add a Panamorph Anamorphic lens at an extra $5,500. Is the lens really worth the extra cost.
I tend to agree with Smitty... I would have to see the benefits of the Anamorphic lens before spending that much or have the agreement that you can have it removed and he will refund you. My image is so sharp now on my 118" 2.40:1 screen that I believe the anamorphic lens may have the chance of actually softening the image since the light has to pass through another lens element.

The experts can chime in as I believe you should get additional brightness but you are adding a lot of complexity to the set up which may or may not provide benefits. My projector is the JVC with faux 4k, so with a true 4k projector like you are purchasing I would say the panamorph would provide little value unless the added brightness for HDR will be beneficial.

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No, I confirmed a post that said JVC is carrying through the RS1000, 2000, 3000 and 4500. Does not mean JVC will not release anything new. but if you are holding out for laser, you are going to be disappointed.
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No, I confirmed a post that said JVC is carrying through the RS1000, 2000, 3000 and 4500. Does not mean JVC will not release anything new.
Doesn't leave much space in the lineup for anything new...!
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No, I confirmed a post that said JVC is carrying through the RS1000, 2000, 3000 and 4500. Does not mean JVC will not release anything new. but if you are holding out for laser, you are going to be disappointed.
Perhaps we’ll see a RS1500, RS2500, and RS3500 while still offering the 1000,2000, and 3000...

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Hi folks...looking for some technical help and a process for testing...I have the N7 and 4K Sony 85” 900F...I’m running an Anthem 1120 with one monitor out to the pj and one monitor out to the tv...

The issue I’m having is if I’m watching a movie with the N7 and then want to switch the tv on after turning the pj off, I get no picture on the tv until I unplug the pj monitor out...Also sometimes when playing an hdr disc on the pj, only SDR will play as for some reason the “chain” thinks the lowest resolution device is only capeable of sdr...the only fix for me so far is to disconnect the monitor out for the tv when using the pj and visa versa...this sounds like an Edid resolution issue to me...

Can one of you bright technical folks suggest a fix so I can run dual monitor outs w/o having to disconnect one OR suggest a debugging process to determine which one is giving me the issue OR suggest if there is an HDFURY device that may resolve this or any other piece of hardware as simple as some type of HDMI splitter...thanks folks...
What HDMI cables are you using, going to TV and projector? Also what length. My guess is it is a limitation of the processor. I have an Onkyo that has the same problem. I ended up having to go to an Atlona HD Base T system, for the projector, to get it to work. Still not perfect. Tried two different 40' fiber optic cables and just would not work reliably, when using both HDMI outputs. Would work reliably if I used 6' HDMI cables to TV and projector.

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Doesn't leave much space in the lineup for anything new...!
There is another current model that could be replaced.
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What HDMI cables are you using, going to TV and projector? Also what length. My guess is it is a limitation of the processor. I have an Onkyo that has the same problem. I ended up having to go to an Atlona HD Base T system, for the projector, to get it to work. Still not perfect. Tried two different 40' fiber optic cables and just would not work reliably, when using both HDMI outputs. Would work reliably if I used 6' HDMI cables to TV and projector.
Thanks Mike...50ft active fibre cable to pj (tested at 4:4:4 60) and a 12 foot 18Gb/s to TV...Sorry did u mean a limitation of the Anthem processor?

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Thanks Mike...50ft active fibre cable to pj (tested at 4:4:4 60) and a 12 foot 18Gb/s to TV...Sorry did u mean a limitation of the Anthem processor?
Yes, I am guessing it is a limitation of the Anthem. I already know that is the case on my Onkyo. I suggest a HD Base T system for the projector and shorten the cable as much as you can to the TV.
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Yes, I am guessing it is a limitation of the Anthem. I already know that is the case on my Onkyo. I suggest a HD Base T system for the projector and shorten the cable as much as you can to the TV.
Thanks Mike, do u think any of the HDFury products like the Linker will work to force an Edid?

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No, I confirmed a post that said JVC is carrying through the RS1000, 2000, 3000 and 4500. Does not mean JVC will not release anything new. but if you are holding out for laser, you are going to be disappointed.
Well that stinks... Don't they usually at least add a few new minor features? Have they every carried through the exact same models?

I wonder if Sony will update the 695? Glad my projector is still going strong as I wait for laser projector at $15,000 or below.

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Well that stinks... Don't they usually at least add a few new minor features? Have they every carried through the exact same models?

I wonder if Sony will update the 695? Glad my projector is still going strong as I wait for laser projector at $15,000 or below.
Yes, JVC has carried models through before. RS46 and RS4500 are two that immediately come to mind. I would not be holding my breath for a VW695 replacement. I am just hoping Sony gets more competitive with their pricing. It does concern me that Sony may be shift their emphasis toward TV's.
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Well that stinks... Don't they usually at least add a few new minor features? Have they every carried through the exact same models?

I wonder if Sony will update the 695? Glad my projector is still going strong as I wait for laser projector at $15,000 or below.
Yeah, I don't think you will see a laser LCoS projector under $15k in the US for at least a few more years. Sony could do it if they dropped the price on the 885 to the same as European prices but I don't see them doing that anytime soon.

I think the next major upgrade for me will be a new design that uses sandwiched LCoS 1080p luminance panels with 4k LCoS color panels to produce a 2 million pixel dimming zone projector producing extreme native contrast. Similar to the Christie DLP projectors only with LCoS. I would think this would be possible at a reasonable price in the next 5 -10 years.

Or possibly go to microled 130" 2.35:1 displays with near infinite contrast, if the price drops.

Until then I am good with the RS3000. It works great and compares well to the current LCoS lasers from JVC and Sony.
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Thanks Mike, do u think any of the HDFury products like the Linker will work to force an Edid?
I have had luck fixing an EDID issue with an RS3000 and a DirecTV 4K mini using a DA12 from AVPro Edge. Find a local dealer willing to try a few things. AVPro has really good tech support.

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Thanks, where in the chain did u place this? Does it force an Edid to either the pj or tv?

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Thanks, where in the chain did u place this? Does it force an Edid to either the pj or tv?
They recommend between the receiver and the projector. The problem was the DirecTV 4K box would send out a resolution of 2400x1080 - not legal, and I have no idea where it came from. They suggested this location so as not to interfere with audio.
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My ATV is hooked to Streaming HDMI input of Denon X6500H when I switched the setting on the ATV to 4.2.2 now the JVC RS2000 tells me it exceeded range & no pic , I switched to different HDMI input on the Denon it works but when I switched back to Streaming HDMI again still out of range. Don't know how to fix this .

LG OLED C8 65 2018 BR . HT: JVC RS2000, S Studio Tek 130 1.3 Gain screen, Apple TV4k, Def Tech 9080/C 9080/9040 Dolby Atmos Speakers, Denon X6500H , Panasonic UB820 and a nagging wife.
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I think it is a good thing that JVC keep the current RS1000/2000/3000 for another year. They would have time to improve and resolve the last complains people have. It shows respect to there current owners if they continu to improve the software with firmware update.

Some could argue that it’s the least they can do but in this industry many company just release new products and go forward leaving the early adopter in the dust.

Also for people still on the fence about those projectors, look for great deals around CEDIA. Normally some of the vendors (present in this thread) put one of there best price of the year for show booking. And since this year JVC carry on current models, I guess the deals will be very good.
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Is anybody using the heavy duty chief VCM mount with their 4K projector (RS1000-RS3000)? If so, which model fits the hole pattern? I'm using the smaller chief mount (RPM) and it's great with just the projector, but once I put the Paladin DCR on things get a little front heavy and maintaining tilt has proven somewhat difficult.
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You using the mount with the gear adjustment? RPMA + SLM281 combo >>> This has gear adjustment.
With the gear adjustment version, I'm having no issues. It hasn't moved since I re-hung my RS3000+DCR back in May, including across that small earthquake we had in early July.
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