Originally Posted by DennisLJacob
Arrow, firstly thank you for doing all this work. I've done similar with audio in the past and know it is tough work. It's not fun and it is tedious detailed work.
I also understand that we are looking at the details in order to set a base set of data. Though the projector might be really good, the base set of details are needed to compare to other products either from JVC or Sony or someone else.
My main concern with the nx9 is the lens, 8k eshift and contrast and lumens.
My concern about the lens is this: is it as good as the RS4500? Is it truly the same lens? Are there elements installed in the nx9 lens that is not in the RS4500?
My concern about the 8k eshift is it a determent to the system? Does it affect the lens in any way? Even turned off, does it affect the image?
Contrast - well it either meets the specs JVC has given or it doesn't. Does it beat the other new JVC 4k units? Does it have any other flaws or issues with different settings? If so are they correctable with firmware? Does it beat the Sony projectors as what we have been discussing for the last 3 months while waiting for JVC to produce and deliver these projectors.
Lumens - does it produce the JVC specifications? We really haven't gotten around to this item I don't think.
I'm a newbie with JVC and this level of projector. So I'm relying on Arrow and other forum folks to give the straight truth. Either these projectors meet the anticipated performance or they don't.
Regarding having the projectors calibrated and "fixed" if anything is wrong. Well that is a real issue for me. After buying and paying for a new projector - I don't want to find out that it is a lemon. I will already own it. I'd much rather know that the projector is a perfect as it is supposed to be before paying for it. It's like buying a new car. As soon as you own it, it becomes worth 30% below the cost. My view with these projectors are the same. If these projectors get a bad rap, that will stick with them. In the anticipation thread, there were many folks who said they'd cancel their orders if these projectors didn't measure up to the pre delivery hype. If that is true then dealers are fine with taking them back if we don't like them. Though I don't know if any of the dealers are actually willing to do that. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Again, Arrow and the others who are spending a ton of time and effort in testing and reporting on these projectors - Thank You. I learn more with each new page of postings.
JVC says it is the same lens as the 4500 with slight improvements. The groupings and number of elements are the same and the size is the same. And if you think about it, it would be more expensive for JVC to design and manufacturer an all new lens that is the same size, same elements and the same groupings. You would lose your economy of scale.
From what we have seen, meeting native contrast spec is a non issue and what brightness readings I have seen, also non issue, so meeting spec is going to be a non issue. From what we have seen, everyone of these new projectors may have been in spec. Hard to say on Arrow's because I do not know how bad the blooming actually is, since we are seeing an image blown up and shot with a less than optimal camera. None of the items pointed out show up, when watching actual content and is that not what we buy them for? If you want to take test patterns and go look for issues, you will find them, on any projector, but then go back and check, looking at actual content from your viewing distance.
I think many people are not understanding what a deep dive is. It is to show any and every flaw and all projectors have flaws. Wait until you get your projector and take a look at the image it throws. I think you will be very pleased.
There is nothing about calibrating and fixed? Calibrated just puts the projector to project the most accurate image it can and that applies to any Projector.
From what I have seen very few people are canceling orders. In fact the backlog is growing, not shrinking.