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It’️s going to be quite some time before there is any 8K content available. So I’️m not sure why it’️s needed.


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8K games are available now, especially on PC. And madVR upscaling to 8K will look extremely close to real 8K. But that all being said, I agree it's not needed but for a different reason. People sit too back to benefit from 4K for the most part, 8K is just out.
HDMI 2.1 is way more important at the moment than 8k specially for gamers, next consoles will support it and that is less than a year away, but projectors are always late to adapt the latest standards.

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8K games are available now, especially on PC. And madVR upscaling to 8K will look extremely close to real 8K. But that all being said, I agree it's not needed but for a different reason. People sit too back to benefit from 4K for the most part, 8K is just out.


Interesting. As I’m not a gamer 8K capability won’t do much for me though. And folks like to complain that current 4K sources are upscaled from 1080p now. I’m not convinced upscaling those further to 8K is going to do much either. Other than cost more for new cables, projectors, AVR’s etc. But I suppose time will tell.


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marantz has a history of updating eg my av8802A was fully updated to the A version with all necessary for UHD with hdmi version and HDCP once that was finalised taking from av8802 to av8802A...and why i bought the original version in first place on the promise. I think the 8805 was sold on that premise ? not sure re the SR8012 though not sure why would be different ? both are flagship for marantz and usually treated same

all that said not sure what relevance to jvc here. is there any relevance for hdmi 2.1 and projectors ? genuine question not having a go !
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To bad we do not have smart projectors, then you could just stream 8K right in........
Next breakthrough ?

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Still be nice.
You really want to go through buying and installing a new HDMI standard again so soon, with cables that don't work like they said they would, and new receivers etc. ? My system works flawlessly now, and 4K looks outstanding. I can wait.
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You really want to go through buying and installing a new HDMI standard again so soon, with cables that don't work like they said they would, and new receivers etc. ? My system works flawlessly now, and 4K looks outstanding. I can wait.


I can wait as well, I just thought it will be nice if rs3000 owners got an update to allow an 8k input. I know it’s not going to happen, I made a comment to Al quote and I didn’t know it was going to get some of you upset.



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You really want to go through buying and installing a new HDMI standard again so soon, with cables that don't work like they said they would, and new receivers etc. ?
My system works flawlessly now, and 4K looks outstanding.
I can wait.
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I totally agree I'm done with the above forever as 4K & 4K HDR are just fine for this fellow.

And like you say my H/T existing system works exactly as it should and I don't have to constantly {Fiddle} with it.

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So, the last few times I've watched something in my theater I've noticed the projector looked like it had convergence issues when it first came on and I was going through menus on whatever device. I figured it was just the projector not being settled in yet since I had just turned it on.

Then last night, I saw it again, watched something, and was going to watch something else, and I saw that it was still there. So, I went to check the convergence settings and saw the blue was way off, and I could not get it very close. It's especially bad on the left side. It didn't used to be like this.

What could have caused this to get so far off, and what can I do to correct it?







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So, the last few times I've watched something in my theater I've noticed the projector looked like it had convergence issues when it first came on and I was going through menus on whatever device. I figured it was just the projector not being settled in yet since I had just turned it on.

Then last night, I saw it again, watched something, and was going to watch something else, and I saw that it was still there. So, I went to check the convergence settings and saw the blue was way off, and I could not get it very close. It's especially bad on the left side. It didn't used to be like this.

What could have caused this to get so far off, and what can I do to correct it?

Notice the purple at the top edge of the mountains
My guess would be something has shifted in the optical block. Maybe the temp shifts with winter coming on caused it. I'd say you may want to consider zone convergence as a band aid. It's frowned on, but it worked well on my RS520. You should be able to get things pretty close using it. And then contact Desertdome to see if it warrants replacing.

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Interesting to see the back and forth on DTM. Glad we got a definitive answer. Disappointing to see JVC use metadata rather than actual data, but Auto does still seem plug and play on the majority of content. I don't think there would be a lack of processing power to choose the target, the heavy lifting seems like it would be in the frame analysis. Makes me wonder if this is what they could finish in time for the fall season and the next revision will see further improvements.

I would imagine they'll eventually have some sort of a slider to set the approximate brightness of the individual setup and then it will dynamically map the frame/scene to that value. No more low/med/high.

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Interesting to see the back and forth on DTM. Glad we got a definitive answer. Disappointing to see JVC use metadata rather than actual data, but Auto does still seem plug and play on the majority of content.
DTM does use actual data to perform the tone mapping, frame by frame or scene by scene. The metadata is only used to pick the Low/Medium/High range bucket.

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DTM does use actual data to perform the tone mapping, frame by frame or scene by scene. The metadata is only used to pick the Low/Medium/High range bucket.
Sorry that wasn't clear, but that was referring to Auto using metadata to select a target range.


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Sorry that wasn't clear, but that was referring to Auto using metadata to select a target range.
This has been discussed before.

I personally don’t see how looking at a specific frame or scene alone will allow you to decide which range bucket is the right one.

Many people actually believe the range setting should be based on measurements of the peak luminance achievable on the user’s screen.

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Then last night, I saw it again, watched something, and was going to watch something else, and I saw that it was still there. So, I went to check the convergence settings and saw the blue was way off, and I could not get it very close. It's especially bad on the left side. It didn't used to be like this.

What could have caused this to get so far off, and what can I do to correct it?
Something is SERIOUSLY amiss within the optical block i am afraid !....
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I have updated the article to reflect this and I've given this input to JVC. Hopefully at some point we'll see those type of improvements. This is how MadVR and Lumagen work (though they approach it in different ways) and the results definitely show how it can improve the image.
Have you or anyone else been in touch with Panasonic recently? I though that perhaps they'd work on a DTM solution of their own in light of the JVC firmware update and offerings from MadVR and Lumagen. While the consumer front projection market is small, it seems to me that owners of all but the top new JVCs would find a disc spinner with best-in-class DTM nearly impossible to resist.
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This has been discussed before.

I personally don’t see how looking at a specific frame or scene alone will allow you to decide which range bucket is the right one.
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I know, I was commenting on that discussion. Frame data would be a better basis than static metadata that is potentially inaccurate, missing or misrepresentative of the majority of the film. However I'm sure that is a more complex endeavor than just looking at a set of static numbers and just doing an if/then type selection. My guess is we got what we did based on the constraint of getting this into the market by an internal deadline. Likely they wanted it out by the holiday sales season. Though admittedly Auto has worked well so far.

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Many people actually believe the range setting should be based on measurements of the peak luminance achievable on the user’s screen.
Agreed. I mentioned I think they'll probably go to some sort of a slider that sets a target brightness to map to in the second part of that post. I doubt it will be nit value we input. To technical for most. Though they may add an advanced field for it.

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Have you or anyone else been in touch with Panasonic recently? I though that perhaps they'd work on a DTM solution of their own in light of the JVC firmware update and offerings from MadVR and Lumagen. While the consumer front projection market is small, it seems to me that owners of all but the top new JVCs would find a disc spinner with best-in-class DTM nearly impossible to resist.
I would imagine DTM could even help low to mid nit level flat panels.
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I'm in the same boat. I got good money for the 203 and the Panasonic works great, but man I LOVED my Oppo. Hate that they stopped making players.
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I had the UB9000 , Oppo 203 . I use madVR now with my HTPC for the best 4K "AND" upscaled 1080P image that i have ever seen.

I sold off the Panasonic UB9000 , but retained my Oppo 203.

I honestley didnt think a hell of a lot of the UB9000 , in my opinion the Oppo is a much better disc player than the UB9000. ...

Just recentley i sold off a spare NIB Oppo 203,s to a user who was not happy with his UB9000 that he uses with his Lumagen and Z1/RS4500. He now uses the Oppo 203 ( sold off the UB9000) and couldnt be happier..
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I had 3 oppo 203 and did quite well in regarding price but now with JVC DTM feature the Panasonic is more like a regular player for us JVC owners unless they want too use the static tone mapping ( which I had to try and definitely went back to DTM ).
Though If your a Sony owner like I was then the Panasonic is a must or Madvr ( which I haven’t seen in action )

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I bought a pair of Oppo 203s last summer along with a JVC RS440 (the second 203 was intended for my living room system).

The rebuild of my house and theater took a year longer than expected, so I was able to trade in my unopened RS440 towards an RS1000.

By that point I was eyeing a Panasonic 9000, so the announcement of the DTM firmware effectively reduced the cost of the pj upgrade by $1000, by letting me stay with the Oppo, particularly since the 9000 wouldn't have been as good as the Oppo for DLNA rendering of 5.1 surround music.
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But gamma can be calibrated with Spyder 5/X. No issues about that. It's just on the color that they are not good
I picked up an X on sale tonight and have a month to return it if I don’t like it...was it determined the color issue was an existing bug with autocal for now?

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Have you or anyone else been in touch with Panasonic recently? I though that perhaps they'd work on a DTM solution of their own in light of the JVC firmware update and offerings from MadVR and Lumagen. While the consumer front projection market is small, it seems to me that owners of all but the top new JVCs would find a disc spinner with best-in-class DTM nearly impossible to resist.
except then you end up with needing DTM in each source ? which is klutzy eg. what happens then with the appleTV ? or some such other source ? eg the gaming rig and such. DTM in each of those ? much better to have in the projector which then tone maps them all to suit projection conditions

suspect work done in partnership with pana has got jvc where is but not sure be any going back
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Picked up an ub420 - what settings do you folks use with the rs2000/nx7? I take it you have it setup for projector and hdr on. Everything else off...e.g. optimizer since the jvc has DTM (fw 3.10).
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Picked up an ub420 - what settings do you folks use with the rs2000/nx7? I take it you have it setup for projector and hdr on. Everything else off...e.g. optimizer since the jvc has DTM (fw 3.10).
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I picked up an X on sale tonight and have a month to return it if I don’t like it...was it determined the color issue was an existing bug with autocal for now?
No, it wasn’t. Measures performed with different calibration tools highlighted similar color deviations.
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So I installed a new original lamp into one of the two original lamp housings I have for my N7. I noticed a difference on the metal brick, holding the power connector in place (see picture) This "guide" is missing from this brick on one of the housings. I dont think it makes much difference since it seems to be only a guide for the projector connector to slide correctly into place, but still interesting why they differ. Both being original lamps.
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No, it wasn’t. Measures performed with different calibration tools highlighted similar color deviations.
Thanks, do you feel Datacolor could fix this via some sort of software update? If not is it better to pick up a Spyder 5 for color and gamma if I can find one?

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I am wondering if JVC could do something for DTM to make it more accurate for each user.

It seems that a spreadsheet could be developed for different sizes of screens and types that might work. They could also include settings to change after the bulb ages.

This is not a new idea. The people who wrote the German Curves a few years ago for the Sony projectors did this before DTM. They pulled the spreadsheet and various curves for some reason and came out with a simple one style fits all approach. I think that it would not be too difficult to include this information.
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I am wondering if JVC could do something for DTM to make it more accurate for each user.

It seems that a spreadsheet could be developed for different sizes of screens and types that might work. They could also include settings to change after the bulb ages.

This is not a new idea. The people who wrote the German Curves a few years ago for the Sony projectors did this before DTM. They pulled the spreadsheet and various curves for some reason and came out with a simple one style fits all approach. I think that it would not be too difficult to include this information.
Variable is source ... which is what dtm is doing something about. And very well I must say 🙂 are you having some difficulty ? The variable of screen size bulb aging and throw are variables at every user and really boils down to luminance 🙂 30 FL peak luminance or around 100 nits seems to work for me and no matter screen or bulb or throw if achieving same luminance on another setup will work same there too. No curves needed ?

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