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Kris really like the Pioneer UDP-LX500 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player, since it has source direct and other features.

https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...-player-review

Thanks for posting this. Interesting. I wonder if the Pioneer spinner is a better option than the Panasonic ub820 (or 9000) for those of us without DTM (Ex rs4500 owner) who need the static tone mapping for now, but eventually plan to add a video processor (and thus want to use source direct mode to allow the VP to upscale HD... Panasonic has no source direct output)


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For most people, going beyond a 45-degree viewing angle isn't a comfortable experience you'd want to repeat over and over. I increased my screen size from 110 inches to only 120 inches (11 feet viewing distance), and when I looked at 123-inch screen, it was getting too wide.

Here's a great tutorial on the subject.

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This guy cannot enjoy horizontal field of view beyond 45-50 degrees. Anyone doing 50-60 degrees with their JVC and a scope screen?
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This guy cannot enjoy horizontal field of view beyond 45-50 degrees. Anyone doing 50-60 degrees with their JVC and a scope screen?
More than 53° here, since seat distance is matching the width of my scope screen. And I'm enjoying it.
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It is either your room reflections lighting up the screen or just noting the poor ANSI contrast.
The ANSI of these isn't brilliant, but to gauge which you are seeing you'd need to measure with dedicated test patterns. You should be able to achieve in room contrast of around 200:1 for ANSI pattern on these.
Most of the "4k" DLPs aren't much better for ANSI though.

The room would be constant from one projector to the other, so if your room was the limiting factor before, it likely still will be once you have white on the screen...
Thanks! I'll try to cover the ceiling with black acoustic foam to see if it's the ceiling reflections.
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What size image are you throwing on the wall?
What throw distance?
Out of the box will be with iris fully open.
Thanks! It's a 125" 16:9 screen (1.2 gain). Throw is 5m (16.5ft).

I'm going to cover the ceiling (first 3 feet) with black foam panels tomorrow.

With the iris - I've set it to Auto 2. I can't seem to change the iris unless it's set to manual.
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In addition to what others have said, you should use the "Natural" picture mode out of the box for SDR content. After you've upgraded the firmware, use "Frame Adapt HDR" for HDR content.
Thanks for the tip. Yes natural for sdr does seem to produce better blacks than cinema.
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Thanks! It's a 125" 16:9 screen (1.2 gain). Throw is 5m (16.5ft).

I'm going to cover the ceiling (first 3 feet) with black foam panels tomorrow.

With the iris - I've set it to Auto 2. I can't seem to change the iris unless it's set to manual.
A lot of your problem with black levels is the 30+ FL that you are watching SDR content. Turn aperture to manual, close down the manual iris to something like -7 to -10. Then turn back to auto 2 for dynamic iris.
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Only the ones who really care about their customers like you Mike. Thanks for being you.

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Since we're sharing Masking solutions, in my room, it was relatively easy to install a set of Black Velvet curtains, as pictured below. I don't have a photo with the curtains drawn in, but you can see how this works. I attached a wooden dowel to the inner edge of the curtains, to give a reasonably straight line, and have some velcro on the bottom to hold it in place. It just takes a few minutes to pull them in or out, for whichever content I'm watching.

Posting just to offer another option in case this type of solution would come in handy for others.
Looks great, love those beams running thru the room.
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Looks great, love those beams running thru the room.
Thanks, Chris.

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1. Format: [email protected] SDR
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quick question. my settings on atv are 4kHDR, chroma 4:2:2, match content range & frame rate. jvc picture mode set to frame adapt HDR and HDR level to auto. while streaming any hdr content from atv my picture looks dark. seemingly randomly the brightness will increase (and picture will look great) during a scene and then a few seconds later it returns to a darker image. ive tried changing bulb setting from low to high but that doesn't make as dramatic a change in the image as i get randomly. what am i doing wrong? is it an issue with settings? i have only watched a couple of 4k hdr disks and don't remember the same issue.

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quick question. my settings on atv are 4kHDR, chroma 4:2:2, match content range & frame rate. jvc picture mode set to frame adapt HDR and HDR level to auto. while streaming any hdr content from atv my picture looks dark. seemingly randomly the brightness will increase (and picture will look great) during a scene and then a few seconds later it returns to a darker image. ive tried changing bulb setting from low to high but that doesn't make as dramatic a change in the image as i get randomly. what am i doing wrong? is it an issue with settings? i have only watched a couple of 4k hdr disks and don't remember the same issue.
ATV changes the metadata at random, which throws off the auto frame adapt. Set it on manual (High or Medium).

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ATV changes the metadata at random, which throws off the auto frame adapt. Set it on manual (High or Medium).
thank you DC. will try it tonight.

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ATV changes the metadata at random, which throws off the auto frame adapt. Set it on manual (High or Medium).
what's a better streaming device? is amazon cube more stable? what about m9702?

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How do most owners deal with the lens cap? I'm coming from a motorised lens JVC.

Remove and replace every time the projector is used?

Leave it off and deal with the extra dust? More chance of scratching the lens?
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thank you DC. will try it tonight.
Yes Rads, I had set mine to Medium.

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A lot of your problem with black levels is the 30+ FL that you are watching SDR content. Turn aperture to manual, close down the manual iris to something like -7 to -10. Then turn back to auto 2 for dynamic iris.
Thanks Mike!

Will try closing down the aperture manually and reverting back to auto 2.
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How do most owners deal with the lens cap? I'm coming from a motorised lens JVC.

Remove and replace every time the projector is used?

Leave it off and deal with the extra dust? More chance of scratching the lens?
I had a Epson 6040 previously with a motorized lens cover, however, I just leave it off on the NX7 and approximately once/week I blast the lens with an air can. Hope this helps.

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How do most owners deal with the lens cap? I'm coming from a motorised lens JVC.

Remove and replace every time the projector is used?

Leave it off and deal with the extra dust? More chance of scratching the lens?
Throw the cap in the box so that you have it whenever you sell the projector. Not needed.
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Thank you both.

How's the lens memory precision on these newer models?

ClevelandPlasma mentions it's improved over my RS620, I'm hoping that's the case.

Does anyone use their projector with a drop down screen and have drift/imprecision, if so how often do you need to shift the image and re-save the memory?

I've been told elsewhere that besides sharpness being improved over my RS620 it's not an upgrade, I know the blacks will not beat the contrast king, however I thought in areas otherwise it was an upgrade. Buyers remorse is setting in after that comment. Is it really more of a sideways move?

Could anyone give me a basis on what to check for quality wise with my unit once it arrives?
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How do most owners deal with the lens cap? I'm coming from a motorised lens JVC.

Remove and replace every time the projector is used?

Leave it off and deal with the extra dust? More chance of scratching the lens?
Are people under the impression that the motorized lens cap on the previous model was dust free? How about having the lens cap open to play back content, is dust unable to reach the lens due to light output? When do you think dust is more likely to hit the lens of the unit, when the unit is off and the room is empty? Or when the unit is running and its internal fans are blowing a ton of air around the unit? Honestly, I don't think the lens cap does much. It may protect if you're running around the house playing yard stick sword fighting in front of the projector. But I doubt it's going to make any difference regarding dust.
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Are people under the impression that the motorized lens cap on the previous model was dust free? How about having the lens cap open to play back content, is dust unable to reach the lens due to light output?
It was an honest question. I already stated I'm coming from a RS620 with a motorised door, so of course I appreciate the door is not a magical solution that means the lens never interacts with dust during use.

I do appreciate a bit of flippancy though

I was simply asking how owners deal with this aspect, lens cap off all the time or more wear and tear taking it on and off between usage.

Glad to hear it's a non-issue and I look forward to leaving it in the box.
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The motorized lens cap was just another failure case like not opening and preventing the projector to turn on ...... and little you could do about it.
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The motorized lens cap was just another failure case like not opening and preventing the projector to turn on ...... and little you could do about it.


Yes I got caught with that once. I ended leaving it open.

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When I first got my RS1000 (a/k/a N5/NX5) I would put the lens cap on after use - until on one occasion I forgot to take it off and became afraid the projector was broken - given the dim, out-of-focus image on the screen - until I noticed that the lens cap was still on it.

Haven't put it back on since.

About the only use case where it would be good to put it on after use is if you like to sit around smoking or cooking in your theater when not watching anything.
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what's a better streaming device? is amazon cube more stable? what about m9702?
I've had both a 2019 4K Roku Ultra and a 4K Amazon Fire Stick in my theater since I completed it in the fall of 2019, with the Roku used for everything but Amazon Music HD (since the Roku only has the mp3 version of Amazon Music) - particularly since the only way to even get CD quality from the FireSick is to lock it to PCM stereo output.

About two weeks ago I added an Nvidia Shield (the less-expensive "tube" model since the "Pro" was out of stock and I didn't need the USB input anyway), to get the 2019 Shields' AI Upscaling to 4K, which is excellent, adding "inferred" detail to 1080 and 480 streams. (Riker: "Computer: Enlarge and Enhance.")

Projected 11' 4'" wide by my RS1000, the Shield's AI upscaling is truly impressive. Between the Shield's AI Upscaling, gigabit Ethernet jack, and Puffin web browser (from the Google Play Store), it's largely displaced the Roku. I use the Shield's AI Upscaling to good effect on VUDU, Amazon Prime Video (including CBS All Access and Britbox), Disney + and Netflix.

The only video service I use that I can't get on the Shield is Apple TV+ (for the excellent series For All Mankind), so the Roku (with its 100 MB Ethernet jack) stays in the system for that - and its wonderful aquarium screen saver.

By the way, the best way to get TuneIn in a theater is to use a phone's TuneIn app to cast to the Shield (oh yeah, it's also a Chromecast receiver), with the phone on wifi. The Roku has the best TuneIn app of my three streamers (the Shield and the Fire Stick have nearly useless versions and the Roku's version, while good, can't get some stations with codecs the Roku doesn't support - like KJAZZ in California - but casting from my android phone sidesteps all of those problems).

Though the phone does get Amazon Music HD, that service only "casts" as mp3s, so I still use the Fire Stick for that.

No one streamer has all the bases covered.

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