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It does support BT.2020 with 100% coverage of P3-DCI 😊
Also, the annoying "light frame" of the TI 0.47 DLA chip is now gone.

Anyway, I'm perfectly aware that the JVC is in a different league.
But I've sold my X5900 (X590) and just can't afford a new JVC now.
Thinking the W5700 can be a decent replacement for a year or two...

Anyway, back to the normal program😊
Where are you getting that? Here are the specs from Benq

Resolution: 4K (native 2.048 x 1200)
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Zoom factor: x1.6
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Dimensions: 35.3 x 13.5 x 27.2cm (W x H x D)
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Still waiting on my NX9....my situation is similar to yours as I have a 160” wide acoustically transparent screen. I was under the assumption that the tone mapping feature would allow me to enjoy hdr. I currently strip out the hdr with an integral 4K device with my jvc rs500. So how will hdr work in my scenario?
Hi, Jason. As far as t-mapping, I wouldn't use the Fury Integral with the NX9. I would let the projector do the mapping, or you can try the PJ in combo with the UB820.

I was on the list but cancelled and now hoping I could demo at Brian's, but it will be a while before he can have one for demo.

Hopefully you get a good sample. PM me when you've had a chance to test yours out. I'd like to hear your thoughts.
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I dunno, perhaps i am taking pixel peeping too seriously. What do you guys think of my qbf results? The focus does soften a little towards either side of the screen. I took these after letting the projector warm up for an hour, i reset and performed pixel alignment all over again, it took 2-3 clicks of fine adjustment for blue and red and then i performed zone adjustment on the entire right side and left side of center. Some zones needed 8 clicks to get red in line and on average i would say 5-6 clicks per zone. Flipping back and forth from on and off for pixel alignment on the qbf pattern did make a noticeable difference, especially for white on black text. With pixel align on, it appears to be a tad bit sharper. Please note, i was limited to 4k 444 at 8bits. (because windows 10 and msi gaming laptop nonsense and i don't have mini dp to hdmi) iphone 8 camera




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Agree some "double boxing" happens that way (as someone already mentioned) , but really depends if follows instructions like these from UPS. ups.com/us/en/help-center/packaging-and-supplies/packing-materials/double-boxing.page

I received similar instructions back in the day when sold & shipped research instruments. Carrier wouldn't insure if extra padding not done right. Since I was doing it to subsidize grad school I did it right since couldn't afford to loose a unit if damaged.


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So ran QBF pattern on my NX7 and here is the rest. Don't see any fat and thin lines

Damn this thing is sharp. I can make out individual lines from 10ft away!

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I think the red adjacent the yellow might just be some convergence error otherwise it looks pretty darn good.
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I dunno, perhaps i am taking pixel peeping too seriously. What do you guys think of my qbf results? The focus does soften a little towards either side of the screen. I took these after letting the projector warm up for an hour, i reset and performed pixel alignment all over again, it took 2-3 clicks of fine adjustment for blue and red and then i performed zone adjustment on the entire right side and left side of center. Some zones needed 8 clicks to get red in line and on average i would say 5-6 clicks per zone. Flipping back and forth from on and off for pixel alignment on the qbf pattern did make a noticeable difference, especially for white on black text. With pixel align on, it appears to be a tad bit sharper. Please note, i was limited to 4k 444 at 8bits. (because windows 10 and msi gaming laptop nonsense and i don't have mini dp to hdmi) iphone 8 camera


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That part should be all black and white. Like Jav's mentioned when I posted mine, looks like there is chroma issue. Arrow's NX9 does not show it and it shows that part all black and white as it should be.
It's not that noticeable... my monitor maybe?
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First time posting in the thread. Got my RS3000 today and installed. Looks fine and no damage with UPS shipment. Didn't have much time to check. Had some questions with hdmi cable as mine was 4 years old being used with Sony VW6000. Luckily working fine in 4k 60P with 4.2.2 mode 4.4.4 not usable. Had to call Mike several times with setup questions and he patiently answered all.

Thanks Mike. Jeff Meir is coming to calibrate tomorrow. I thought i will be receiving projector much earlier and booked for calibration. Worst case will get a touch up calibration. Thx for all the knowledge members share. Mine is very basic knowledge. Will post updates after Jeff finishes calibration.
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I dunno, perhaps i am taking pixel peeping too seriously. What do you guys think of my qbf results? The focus does soften a little towards either side of the screen. I took these after letting the projector warm up for an hour, i reset and performed pixel alignment all over again, it took 2-3 clicks of fine adjustment for blue and red and then i performed zone adjustment on the entire right side and left side of center. Some zones needed 8 clicks to get red in line and on average i would say 5-6 clicks per zone. Flipping back and forth from on and off for pixel alignment on the qbf pattern did make a noticeable difference, especially for white on black text. With pixel align on, it appears to be a tad bit sharper. Please note, i was limited to 4k 444 at 8bits. (because windows 10 and msi gaming laptop nonsense and i don't have mini dp to hdmi) iphone 8 camera

Holy smokes...that still looks really sharp!
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If the Lumagen Radiance Pro adds dynamic metadata to their product and you couple it with the projector would the projector then be able to support HDR10+
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It's a semantic, but no. If Lumagen add HDR10+ dynamic metadata to their product (not been discussed publicly as yet as far as I'm aware) then your system would be capable of playing back HDR10+ content, with the Lumagen doing the processing and outputting it to the projector in a way which the projector could understand (ie Non-HDR10+). It doesn't make the projector "able to support HDR10+".
Maybe confusing Dynamic Tone Mapping with Dynamic Metadata. Lumagen is working on adding Dynamic Tone Mapping.

Dynamic Metadata is contained in the content source; Dolby Vision and HDR10+.
Dynamic Tone Mapping performs frame by frame analysis during tone mapping of HDR10 content, instead of relying on the static metadata.
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That part should be all black and white. Like Jav's mentioned when I posted mine, looks like there is chroma issue. Arrow's NX9 does not show it and it shows that part all black and white as it should be.
That file has to be played back at 444, there is likely a 420 conversion occurring in his setup, either the UHD player or AVR.
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One thing is for sure, my DI is noisy AF. Not sure i can live with that. It actually sounds very close to the when you manually adjust aperture.


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One thing is for sure, my DI is noisy AF. Not sure i can live with that. It actually sounds very close to the when you manually adjust aperture.
Can you record it briefly and post it?
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That file has to be played back at 444, there is likely a 420 conversion occurring in his setup, either the UHD player or AVR.
Even if you display that pattern correctly, all of the Sony 4K projectors show that pattern discolored, unless you go into the service menu and make a change.
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Oh yea for sure, but this one stands out to me, because it sounds like a hardware issue. Then again I may be wrong. This will be my first projector.


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major damage can still occur even if double boxed per instructions. But think of it this way, can die in an accident, even wearing seatbelts. But not wearing seatbelt statistically not a good idea. Physics is physics.
You could encase these units with 1/4" plate steel and allow the unit to hoover in air and shippers would still find a way to damage them......
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That part should be all black and white. Like Jav's mentioned when I posted mine, looks like there is chroma issue. Arrow's NX9 does not show it and it shows that part all black and white as it should be.

Thanks for pointing that out. This picture was taken on a dark grey screen (Elite Cinegrey 5D) with the manual iris clamped down to -7 on low lamp. Should that make any difference?
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I dunno, perhaps i am taking pixel peeping too seriously. What do you guys think of my qbf results? The focus does soften a little towards either side of the screen. I took these after letting the projector warm up for an hour, i reset and performed pixel alignment all over again, it took 2-3 clicks of fine adjustment for blue and red and then i performed zone adjustment on the entire right side and left side of center. Some zones needed 8 clicks to get red in line and on average i would say 5-6 clicks per zone. Flipping back and forth from on and off for pixel alignment on the qbf pattern did make a noticeable difference, especially for white on black text. With pixel align on, it appears to be a tad bit sharper. Please note, i was limited to 4k 444 at 8bits. (because windows 10 and msi gaming laptop nonsense and i don't have mini dp to hdmi) iphone 8 camera









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Looks good.

Turn off zone correction though, don't use it! It's responsible for the greyscale colour shift, same with fine adjustment to a degree.

Only use single pixel full screen corrections if you can. If you require any adjustments past that then use a couple clicks of fine adjustment max.

Ideally if you do single pixel adjustment and can't see the convergence issues from a few ft away then leave it. The colour shift in greyscale however can be seen from very far away.

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Thanks for pointing that out. This picture was taken on a dark grey screen (Elite Cinegrey 5D) with the manual iris clamped down to -7 on low lamp. Should that make any difference?
See my post above for why you get that greyscale colour shift.
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That file has to be played back at 444, there is likely a 420 conversion occurring in his setup, either the UHD player or AVR.
My Shield can only play 444 in 8bit 709 color space. That is what I used for playing this image via Kodi. Should this make a difference
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Hi Guys, I wanted to know what test discs you recommend for setting up these projectors? Then special movies for other specific testing or attributes? thanks,
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Can you record it briefly and post it?
I created a quick video. it sounds worse in real life then in this video, where it's audible but sounds low. In quiet scenes you can hear it perfectly and even in noisy scenes you hear it. The capturing of the video doesn't due it justice but it shows how easy it is to replicate, just loading an app which causes a fade to black.

As someone else pointed out it sounds exactly like the aperture changing.

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I created a quick video. it sounds worse in real life then in this video, where it's audible but sounds low. In quiet scenes you can hear it perfectly and even in noisy scenes you hear it. The capturing of the video doesn't due it justice but it shows how easy it is to replicate, just loading an app which causes a fade to black.

As someone else pointed out it sounds exactly like the aperture changing.

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I would like to know if anyone has a unit that does not make any noise like this.
That's how mine sounds. I mentioned it when I first got it. If I turned it off it is obviously silent. I also noticed it a lot more in HDR mode than in SDR mode.

I am beginning to think that this is the normal sound in HDR mode.
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I have Spyder 5 pro and have managed HCFR to work with my Spyder 5.

What I can't figure out is how do I use the two to adjust the manual iris to be 14-17 fL on SDR?

Is there a guide to do that? I searched but could not find a guide to do simply that

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I created a quick video. it sounds worse in real life then in this video, where it's audible but sounds low. In quiet scenes you can hear it perfectly and even in noisy scenes you hear it. The capturing of the video doesn't due it justice but it shows how easy it is to replicate, just loading an app which causes a fade to black.

As someone else pointed out it sounds exactly like the aperture changing.

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I would like to know if anyone has a unit that does not make any noise like this.
That's quite loud and shouldn't be considered normal behavior. I would contact your dealer and request a replacement.
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That's how mine sounds. I mentioned it when I first got it. If I turned it off it is obviously silent. I also noticed it a lot more in HDR mode than in SDR mode.



I am beginning to think that this is the normal sound in HDR mode.


It does this in SDR also. Does yours not do this in SDR?




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It does do it in SDR but not as loud or active. It's like the difference between High Lamp vs Low Lamp, the fan is a lot more quiet in Low Lamp.
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It does do it in SDR but not as loud or active. It's like the difference between High Lamp vs Low Lamp, the fan is a lot more quiet in Low Lamp.
I tried extensivly yesterday. Re-Loaded firmware, factory default, power cycled the projector, switched a lot between Auto1/2 and changing manual aperture level, High / low lamp, a lot of different picture mode settings and gamma. Its still there, except manual aperture of course. But its not there ALL the time in the same scenario. Lets say I start the projector and load a scene which usually triggers it and its not there. I keep watching, when the clickings sound eventually appears, its in all these scenes which usually triggers it. Are there any NX-9s with this sound? Try the dynamic brightness pattern:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0yd666lkz...wwXfcuCRa?dl=0

I expect to get a replacement N7. The dealer wants to go this way, he just need confirmation from JVC about the issue.
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