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Looking for HIGH lumen, short throw projector.

I have a golf simulator. Currently I'm using an Optoma1080Darbee. I have it set to bright mode. The picture quality is mediocre. I'm looking for something that puts out a brighter picture. I found a BenQ laser with 5000 lumens, but I'm not sure that's enough light over the Optoma.
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I have a golf simulator. Currently I'm using an Optoma1080Darbee. I have it set to bright mode. The picture quality is mediocre. I'm looking for something that puts out a brighter picture. I found a BenQ laser with 5000 lumens, but I'm not sure that's enough light over the Optoma.

Most projectors, but especially DLP ones, will have a crap picture in the brightest mode, not the quality of it but the colors will usually look washed out. If you look at some reviews, you will see that the brightest mode usually is a bit below rated (like 4500 lumens for a 5000 lumens model is to be exepcted), and you're not going to get a nice picture at that brightness (same with your Optoma, the optimum colors mode is only about 800 lumens).

If you need brightness with better colors I'd got with something 3LCD, because you'll be able to get better colors (usually) with the brightest setting. If you get a 5000 lumen DLP, the brightest usable mode will usually be around half that, or something close to ~3000 if you're lucky. So something like this will be a much better option:
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Eps...nema_LS100.htm

For example the LS100 according to tests has a measured peak value of 4800 lumens (Projectorcentral.com review) or even as high as 6000 lumens (Projectorreviews.com), and a very usable picture at that level as well, with pretty bright colors. Projectorreviews especially praise it for it's enormous brightness and colors .Here are the tests:
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Eps...tor-review.htm
https://www.projectorreviews.com/eps...jector-review/

If you can afford it (Street Price: $2,999) it's probably the way to go for your application.

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Most projectors, but especially DLP ones, will have a crap picture in the brightest mode, not the quality of it but the colors will usually look washed out. If you look at some reviews, you will see that the brightest mode usually is a bit below rated (like 4500 lumens for a 5000 lumens model is to be exepcted), and you're not going to get a nice picture at that brightness (same with your Optoma, the optimum colors mode is only about 800 lumens).

If you need brightness with better colors I'd got with something 3LCD, because you'll be able to get better colors (usually) with the brightest setting. If you get a 5000 lumen DLP, the brightest usable mode will usually be around half that, or something close to ~3000 if you're lucky. So something like this will be a much better option:
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Eps...nema_LS100.htm

For example the LS100 according to tests has a measured peak value of 4800 lumens (Projectorcentral.com review) or even as high as 6000 lumens (Projectorreviews.com), and a very usable picture at that level as well, with pretty bright colors. Projectorreviews especially praise it for it's enormous brightness and colors .Here are the tests:
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Eps...tor-review.htm
https://www.projectorreviews.com/eps...jector-review/

If you can afford it (Street Price: $2,999) it's probably the way to go for your application.
Good to know. The screen is 14ft wide and 9 foot tall. I really like the 16:10 projectors over 16:9 because they fill the screen better. I need the projector to be around 8-10 feet away from the screen. The ultra short throws are too close I would end up hitting the golf balls into them. I can't go with a normal throw projector because then my shadow gets cast on the screen.

I don't think the ones you suggested would work with my screen size / throw distance. I'm okay with a price up to 4-5k for a projector that fits me right.
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Good to know. The screen is 14ft wide and 9 foot tall. I really like the 16:10 projectors over 16:9 because they fill the screen better. I need the projector to be around 8-10 feet away from the screen. The ultra short throws are too close I would end up hitting the golf balls into them. I can't go with a normal throw projector because then my shadow gets cast on the screen.

I don't think the ones you suggested would work with my screen size / throw distance. I'm okay with a price up to 4-5k for a projector that fits me right.
What about mounting the Epson LS100 to the ceiling or would it still get in the way? It really is a very good price/performance projector.

I didn't find any similar 3LCD projectors for the price that would fit the throw ratio (about 0.6:1 to 0.7:1 according to your needs) and with the required lumens, apart from the professional ones with interchangeable lenses but obviously more expensive. Something like this, also a very good 4K projector (Street Price(USD): $4,390):
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-Pro_G7905U.htm
https://www.projectorcentral.com/eps...tor-review.htm
https://www.projectorreviews.com/eps...jector-review/

The only problem is that the included lens is the standard zoom lens, but for your application you'd need a short throw lens, Epson sells these at quite a bit more than the standard zoom lenses, in the range of $2-3k, so you can see how things get expensive pretty fast. And it's not even a laser projector but a regular lamp one, which adds more cont in the long run.

I'm not sure which Benq you were looking at before, but the one DLP I found is an Optoma ZU500TST, but even this one has a ratio of about 0:8, so 11ft distance for your screen size. No reviews really for this model so hard to say of the quality, but being a DLP the peak brightness will probably not look the best, so expect something like 3000 to 4000 lumens for an acceptable picture.
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Optoma-ZU500TST-W.htm
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What I'm trying to say is, most of the high lumen projectors will be business oriented with some ultra short throws for home use and the throw ratios will be 0.5:1 or less for short throws or 1.2:1 or more for regular throws. And it makes sense because high lumen business projectors are not usually desk mounted so there's less need to ratios that are in between, they are either mounted near the screen or on the ceiling.

Your application and the throw ratio of 0.6:1 to 0.7:1 limits the choices a lot, that's what I suggested ceiling mounting or some other solution that would give you a broader choice of projectors.
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What I'm trying to say is, most of the high lumen projectors will be business oriented with some ultra short throws for home use and the throw ratios will be 0.5:1 or less for short throws or 1.2:1 or more for regular throws. And it makes sense because high lumen business projectors are not usually desk mounted so there's less need to ratios that are in between, they are either mounted near the screen or on the ceiling.

Your application and the throw ratio of 0.6:1 to 0.7:1 limits the choices a lot, that's what I suggested ceiling mounting or some other solution that would give you a broader choice of projectors.
This is the projector that I found.
https://www.projectorreviews.com/wp-...nq_lu951st.pdf
BenQ LU951ST

I think it fits my needs fairly well, I would like it a little bit brighter but

According to Projector Central this should provide 41FL vs the 14FL from the Optoma. This should be a fairly significant upgrade in picture quality.
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This is the projector that I found.
https://www.projectorreviews.com/wp-...nq_lu951st.pdf
BenQ LU951ST

I think it fits my needs fairly well, I would like it a little bit brighter but

According to Projector Central this should provide 41FL vs the 14FL from the Optoma. This should be a fairly significant upgrade in picture quality.

That is a short throw version of this projector, so read the review:
https://www.projectorreviews.com/ben...jector-review/



It's not a bad choice, one of the better DLPs out there as far as having a good picture and not having to sacrifice that much brightness.

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This is the projector that I found.
https://www.projectorreviews.com/wp-...nq_lu951st.pdf
BenQ LU951ST

I think it fits my needs fairly well, I would like it a little bit brighter but

According to Projector Central this should provide 41FL vs the 14FL from the Optoma. This should be a fairly significant upgrade in picture quality.
@casperslide2004 , did you ever end up getting the BenQ LU951ST? I am seriously considering this PJ as an option for my room and would love to hear feedback if you own it!

Thanks in advance.
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