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Any chance the (assumed) moratorium ends prior to release?
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Honestly, I'm surprised Amazon hasn't already sold out of these. If you have pre-orered from them, please keep us up to date if they are still expected to be shipping out next week or if they are turning orders into "backordered" status. If backordered it could be at least another 5 weeks before the next batch arrives in the USA.
Did Optoma build 10 of these? Since when people are rushing to drop $3.5k on this

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What do you mean?
I haven't seen any in depth reviews yet (measurements, calibrations, comparisons, etc). Saw a couple that were really high level, but didn't go into specifics/measurements/etc or other details (IE: focusing on the sound bar aspect more than the projection aspect).

I assumed (perhaps mistakenly) it was due to a moratorium on reviewers and we wouldn't see anything more in depth until that was lifted... but curious when that will be (or if there is another reason we haven't seen those types of reviews so far... or maybe I missed them).
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Did Optoma build 10 of these? Since when people are rushing to drop $3.5k on this
This has been one of the most anticipated projectors of the year. There has been no shortage of people placing their pre-orders and once finally released I'm certain the volume will only increase.

Optoma obviously underestimated the demand for this first shipment; hopefully they really ramp it up for the next wave.
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I haven't seen any in depth reviews yet (measurements, calibrations, comparisons, etc). Saw a couple that were really high level, but didn't go into specifics/measurements/etc or other details (IE: focusing on the sound bar aspect more than the projection aspect).

I assumed (perhaps mistakenly) it was due to a moratorium on reviewers and we wouldn't see anything more in depth until that was lifted... but curious when that will be (or if there is another reason we haven't seen those types of reviews so far... or maybe I missed them).
No moratorium reviews; just a lack of final production models into the reviewers hands. You should start seeing those reviews starting to be published as early as next week.
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This has been one of the most anticipated projectors of the year. There has been no shortage of people placing their pre-orders and once finally released I'm certain the volume will only increase.

Optoma obviously underestimated the demand for this first shipment; hopefully they really ramp it up for the next wave.
I put in my order with Amazon, says delivery on 10/3...

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I put in my order with Amazon, says delivery on 10/3...
Hopefully it doesn't turn into a backorder; keep us posted.
I know that some specialty shops still have unallocated units and have not sold out yet as well and are offering other incentives to beat Amazon.
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No moratorium reviews; just a lack of final production models into the reviewers hands. You should start seeing those reviews starting to be published as early as next week.
coming from consumer electronics market, this lack of information seems extremely interesting... usually the market is filled with review/information even if reviewers only had review unit.
Is this norm in projector market? Do everyone just wait until the production units to become available
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No moratorium reviews; just a lack of final production models into the reviewers hands. You should start seeing those reviews starting to be published as early as next week.
coming from consumer electronics market, this lack of information seems extremely interesting... usually the market is filled with review/information even if reviewers only had review unit.
Is this norm in projector market? Do everyone just wait until the production units to become available
What are comparing to? Small, mass produced electronics, TVs? Every company or product has different process done there is no golden standard.

Perhaps they were running late tweaking firmware and didn't want anyone review unfinished product.

Also we can speculate that product is so good that they want to keep it low key so that people won't stop buying their other projectors or if it's bad they don't want others to review it before shipping. Of course then they will be flooded with returns. Notice how Amazon has "Free return" on it just like on clothing where you can return it for any reason even if you simply don't like it.

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Teaser of the UHZ65UST (P1) to be released in Oct

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2521064781294778&id=389223354 478942

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so what are my screen options for the P1? Has to be ust/alr right? Someone offer electrical one to drop down in front of my 75" tv,that would be cool
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so what are my screen options for the P1? Has to be ust/alr right? Someone offer electrical one to drop down in front of my 75" tv,that would be cool
No, it's recommended but if you are not going to watch in daylight or ambient light then you can go with any cheapo white screen. I've gotten by without ALR screen with my UST, but certainly wanting to get one in the future. Motorized ALR seem to be almost as much as the P1 itself though.

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This has been one of the most anticipated projectors of the year. There has been no shortage of people placing their pre-orders and once finally released I'm certain the volume will only increase.

Optoma obviously underestimated the demand for this first shipment; hopefully they really ramp it up for the next wave.
I put in my order with Amazon, says delivery on 10/3...

Is that from amazon.com or amazon.ca?
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Is that from amazon.com or amazon.ca?
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What are comparing to? Small, mass produced electronics, TVs? Every company or product has different process done there is no golden standard.

Perhaps they were running late tweaking firmware and didn't want anyone review unfinished product.

Also we can speculate that product is so good that they want to keep it low key so that people won't stop buying their other projectors or if it's bad they don't want others to review it before shipping. Of course then they will be flooded with returns. Notice how Amazon has "Free return" on it just like on clothing where you can return it for any reason even if you simply don't like it.
Most of consumer electronics including TVs, phone, or laptops, reviewers often have either production unit or dev unit for them to review.
and I don't really know why would they even entertain the idea of keeping it low key considering they want to hype it up. The only thing I can think of was that they had issues with quality control of pre-production...
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Most of consumer electronics including TVs, phone, or laptops, reviewers often have either production unit or dev unit for them to review.
and I don't really know why would they even entertain the idea of keeping it low key considering they want to hype it up. The only thing I can think of was that they had issues with quality control of pre-production...
They also would rather pay you $200 to review it after release... which was odd...

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i am thinking about sound setup for my central speaker...

P1 is so big that it will fill the depth of the stand so it seems impossible to place central speaker in front of it.

how are you thinking your audio setup? maybe it is possible to use p1 speaker as central one of home cinema?

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my current stand has a height of 22", with the center channel inside the stand. I have a 110" electric screen that drops down to 1/4" above the stand. I've been looking at 100" alr screens for the P1. If I end up needing to lower the media stand so the screen isn't too high I was going to mount the center channel on the wall below the screen.
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i am thinking about sound setup for my central speaker...

P1 is so big that it will fill the depth of the stand so it seems impossible to place central speaker in front of it.

how are you thinking your audio setup? maybe it is possible to use p1 speaker as central one of home cinema?

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I made this small stand, pictured here with my oversized center channel. If I have room, I'll raise the speaker up as high as possible. Probably only an inch or so.
I'm going to get the projector up and running, then mark out where I need to drill a hole for wires in the stand and get the wire management mess taken care of.
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i am thinking about sound setup for my central speaker...

P1 is so big that it will fill the depth of the stand so it seems impossible to place central speaker in front of it.

how are you thinking your audio setup? maybe it is possible to use p1 speaker as central one of home cinema?

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I think many people here have media stand. Puts the P1 on the top, center speaker will sit inside or in front of media stand.
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can the p1 soundbar be wired as the center speaker?
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so what are my screen options for the P1? Has to be ust/alr right? Someone offer electrical one to drop down in front of my 75" tv,that would be cool
This is a common mistake.

ALR/UST screens are not required for UST projectors. You will want to be aware that you want a highly diffuse screen with any UST projector so you don't get major reflections onto the ceiling. But, a screen like the Silver Ticket in their white material actually is rated for use with UST projectors.

You MUST use a tab-tensioned screen if using a retractable screen. Quality models with standard material start at about $2,000. They go up from there rather swiftly, so plan your budget accordingly. I would just ditch the 75" TV and move it elsewhere and get a 120" ALR screen for full time usage if I got this projector in my family room.

I'm hoping that I can get a demo model for some testing of the P1 with a Silver Ticket screen that I can show in my basement (light controlled) and family room (open design) for testing/review purposes.
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can the p1 soundbar be wired as the center speaker?
This is not the first time I've heard this question and it deserves to be answered.

My guess is that 'NO' you can't use it as a center channel. Which begs the question as to WHY it wasn't designed to be used that way as it is a very logical step.

You can't set this projector onto another speaker. It must be physically isolated from the movement of a speaker, which is why the internal speakers are decoupled from the projection engine.

So, a lot of home owners who are looking to upgrade from the internal stereo to add a full surround sound system would likely love to utilize these speakers as a center.

It would have taken some thought and some planning to go this route, but I would be absolutely shocked if they did so.

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What do you mean?
I haven't seen any in depth reviews yet (measurements, calibrations, comparisons, etc). Saw a couple that were really high level, but didn't go into specifics/measurements/etc or other details (IE: focusing on the sound bar aspect more than the projection aspect).

I assumed (perhaps mistakenly) it was due to a moratorium on reviewers and we wouldn't see anything more in depth until that was lifted... but curious when that will be (or if there is another reason we haven't seen those types of reviews so far... or maybe I missed them).
There is no embargo on reviews, we just haven't sent any units out yet. Press units will go out shortly.
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There is no embargo on reviews, we just haven't sent any units out yet. Press units will go out shortly.
Please tell us the unit is super quiet? That's all I care 🙂

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Please tell us the unit is super quiet? That's all I care 🙂
really out of everything that projector offers, the only thing you care about is noise
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Please tell us the unit is super quiet? That's all I care 🙂
really out of everything that projector offers, the only thing you care about is noise [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
Because that's the only biggest negative I have with my Xiaomi.

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This is not the first time I've heard this question and it deserves to be answered.

My guess is that 'NO' you can't use it as a center channel. Which begs the question as to WHY it wasn't designed to be used that way as it is a very logical step.

You can't set this projector onto another speaker. It must be physically isolated from the movement of a speaker, which is why the internal speakers are decoupled from the projection engine.

So, a lot of home owners who are looking to upgrade from the internal stereo to add a full surround sound system would likely love to utilize these speakers as a center.

It would have taken some thought and some planning to go this route, but I would be absolutely shocked if they did so.
It cannot. I believe that has already been shared in this thread.
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Please tell us the unit is super quiet? That's all I care 🙂
You sound like a man on the edge lol. I hope you don't own a gun. I think your xiaomi would be very very nervous. Maybe it would quiet down.

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Because that's the only biggest negative I have with my Xiaomi.
can't you put your xiaomi in an exclosure that would decrease the noise significantly>?
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