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I love how emotional people get about screens when we haven't even got this projector anywhere lol
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Based of my research, the biggest issue is light reflecting of the screen to the ceiling due the angle of the light coming from the UST projector. I've got white ceilings that I can't paint so this would probably be an issue on my non ALR 11 to 12 year old Stewart Firehawk. hopefully I'll have the P1 in my hands by the end of week so I will certainly be taking some pics to post on here. This may not be an issue if you have a dark ceiling though.

I will More than likely end up getting a ALR screen specifically for UST but I really want to see what it looks like on my current screen. While I paid a lot for my current screen, it has lasted me 12 years and a few projectors so it's a pretty good investment. The downside is that if you buy one of these screens you're going to be limited to UST unless you have another screen sitting around, which most people don't.

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I have been away from AVS for a bit and thus am not up to speed on etiquette these days (in addition to my new lowly post count), so going to exercise some caution on links in relation to items for sale. But lets suppose, hypothetically, that there is a dude named Carl selling (16:9 | 67x118-in | 135-in Diag. | Rolled) ALR screen cloth on Amazon for $150, which I could easily put on a frame of my own design, be that 1/4 boards, PVC pipe, or what have you, why is it that I should mistrust Ol' Carl in favor of vastly more expensive offerings? Honest question. My wheelhouse is PC hardware, coding, and networking, and there is enough overlap that I usually have no difficulty finding my way, but this is something of a "have to see it" item. Thoughts?
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Based of my research, the biggest issue is light reflecting of the screen to the ceiling due the angle of the light coming from the UST projector. I've got white ceilings that I can't paint so this would probably be an issue on my non ALR 11 to 12 year old Stewart Firehawk. hopefully I'll have the P1 in my hands by the end of week so I will certainly be taking some pics to post on here. This may not be an issue if you have a dark ceiling though.

I will More than likely end up getting a ALR screen specifically for UST but I really want to see what it looks like on my current screen. While I paid a lot for my current screen, it has lasted me 12 years and a few projectors so it's a pretty good investment. The downside is that if you buy one of these screens you're going to be limited to UST unless you have another screen sitting around, which most people don't.

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I have been away from AVS for a bit and thus am not up to speed on etiquette these days (in addition to my new lowly post count), so going to exercise some caution on links in relation to items for sale. But lets suppose, hypothetically, that there is a dude named Carl selling (16:9 | 67x118-in | 135-in Diag. | Rolled) ALR screen cloth on Amazon for $150, which I could easily put on a frame of my own design, be that 1/4 boards, PVC pipe, or what have you, why is it that I should mistrust Ol' Carl in favor of vastly more expensive offerings? Honest question. My wheelhouse is PC hardware, coding, and networking, and there is enough overlap that I usually have no difficulty finding my way, but this is something of a "have to see it" item. Throughs?
That Carl sells fake ALR screens for UST aka regular ALR screens for front projectors.
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That Carl sells fake ALR screens for UST aka regular ALR screens for front projectors.
Roger that and much appreciated.
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Interesting find. I'm going to have to go through the users manual. Everything I've heard is .24 * height of screen. So 120 would need 14.112 inches from the top of the credenza/shelf to the bottom of the picture, with about an inch wiggle room using the adjustable feet.

I still really wish they made these ALR screen in 110 but it appears to be 100 or 120 unless you get SI or some other top tier brand. Some manufacturers will custom make a specific size but you are probably going to have to wait a while (months) to get it. Regardless, I'm glad I held off on getting a screen until I get the P1 so I'll know for sure.

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There will be a 110" from Grandview with their UST ALR Dynamique surface soon.
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@ProjectionHead an electric tab tensioned pull down 4K grey screen with 0.8 gain could do the job as well? I am aware is not ALR

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@ProjectionHead an electric tab tensioned pull down 4K grey screen with 0.8 gain could do the job as well? I am aware is not ALR

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It will still scatter light to the ceiling unless it doesn't diffuse the light upwards (intended tor UST). What surface are you considering?
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P1 Update:
The units have left Optoma's facility with an ETA in NJ of Friday. All hands will be on deck to double-box them up and get them back out the same day. Everyone will receive their serial # with their tracking information so that they can be assured to be one of the first 200 people to leave a review on Optoma's website and get that $200 gift card.

As expected, Amazon is backorderd on these. I'm interested to know if anyone who ordered from them gets their units or if/when they are told that they are backordered and when they will arrive.

Fortunately some specialty resellers may have bought a boatload of P1s and may have a couple still available from this first wave.

The next round of P1s will not be available until mid-November so hopefully you get lucky on this first round.
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Thanks for keeping us updated, @ProjectionHead .
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P1 Update:
The units have left Optoma's facility with an ETA in NJ of Friday. All hands will be on deck to double-box them up and get them back out the same day. Everyone will receive their serial # with their tracking information so that they can be assured to be one of the first 200 people to leave a review on Optoma's website and get that $200 gift card.

As expected, Amazon is backorderd on these. I'm interested to know if anyone who ordered from them gets their units or if/when they are told that they are backordered and when they will arrive.

Fortunately some specialty resellers may have bought a boatload of P1s and may have a couple still available from this first wave.

The next round of P1s will not be available until mid-November so hopefully you get lucky on this first round.
Scratch that... these are likely sold out everywhere. Hopefully you got your pre-order in!
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Scratch that... these are likely sold out everywhere. Hopefully you got your pre-order in!
Can you share how many units you got allocated? My Amazon order status hasn't changed though

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@ProjectionHead not sure what material, this is the XY link

https://www.xyscreen.com/tab-tensioned-motorized-projection-screen-ec2-series
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Eastporters in Canada will also receive the p1’s on friday confirmed!
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Eastporters in Canada will also receive the p1’s on friday confirmed!



I just have to figure out how I'm going to tell my wife I bought a projector when we already have one...
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Eastporters in Canada will also receive the p1’s on friday confirmed!
Did you call to see if have enough for your pre-order? Wondering if they have enough for all preorders?
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I just have to figure out how I'm going to tell my wife I bought a projector when we already have one...
Haha, yeah, last time I upgraded my projector which I had for 6 years, my wife complained that I change them every year... this time she will be right though

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Haha, yeah, last time I upgraded my projector which I had for 6 years, my wife complained that I change them every year... this time she will be right though
I'm assuming you already paid off your mortgage, I don't know how else you do it
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I'm assuming you already paid off your mortgage, I don't know how else you do it
I will just give up my daily $5 lattes for the next year
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TV specialist is demoing a P1 at their open house tomorrow Oct 2 in Salt Lake City. So it appears some dealers already have theirs.
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@ProjectionHead not sure what material, this is the XY link

https://www.xyscreen.com/tab-tension...een-ec2-series
I can't confirm if their surfaces are texture free and will resolve square 4k pixels. All of the images of their surfaces that they provide show texture

https://www.xyscreen.com/front-fabrics

The Max4K options looks to have the least amount of texture and would likely be the best bet to possibly resolve 4k pixels with no distortion.

What would the landed price be for the XY you are considering?

The least expensive 0.8 that is 4k+ that I am aware of is the Stewart Tiburon G2: https://www.projectorscreen.com/proj...&sort=PriceAsc
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TV specialist is demoing a P1 at their open house tomorrow Oct 2 in Salt Lake City. So it appears some dealers already have theirs.
Makes sense; they are in UT and Optoma was shipping from CA. Us losers on the east coast are a couple days behind
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Well I'm planning on attending the Open House. I will post comparisons, screens used , display environment, calibration settings used, and over all impressions.
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Well i called to confirm and they will have a P1 on display but it will be demoed by Optima so that explains how they are getting it early

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will my sony active 3d glasses work with the Optoma P1? called Optoma tech support and they told me we no longer carry 3D glasses even for the new P1!!
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will my sony active 3d glasses work with the Optoma P1? called Optoma tech support and they told me we no longer carry 3D glasses even for the new P1!!
Are they DLP Link? Maybe. Glasses within spec don't always work and how well they sync up and block out the linking/sync frame is always a consideration. I've tried about 7 different glasses that were all supposed to work with my Fengmi and several didn't work or didn't block out the linking/sync frame--Red or Green in my case.

The new Xpand X105 DLP Link glasses are the best I've ever seen... by far! Unfortunately they don't work with my Fengmi and probably the rest of the Xiaomi's. . Hopefully they will work with the P1.
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Eastporters in Canada will also receive the p1’️s on friday confirmed!
Did you call to see if have enough for your pre-order? Wondering if they have enough for all preorders?
I think they only have 12 and all are taken will get another shipment later on thats what i’m told not sure if its true
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I think they only have 12 and all are taken will get another shipment later on thats what i’m told not sure if its true
thanks, I placed an order through them back in August. hopefully they're going to have one for me. If not I may just cancel and wait for reviews
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Optoma P1 4k Laser UST @ CES

I’ve seen a lot of exaggerated claims regarding screen texture on this and several other UST model’s topic pages. I feel this is a disingenuous marketing ploy thats been around since 480p projectors we’re common. Now I can’t prove this so I’ll just chalk it up to blissful ignorance.

What I can prove is that texture plays a very small roll in the perceived detail on screen. The major contributing factors are lens quality and the imagers themselves. Here’s how I’ll demonstrate.

First, I’ve taken a small piece of cardboard and covered it with a paper towel with far more texture than any screen even the cheapest low quality screen one could find.

Next, I’ve moved my 1080p PJ as close to the screen as possible to recreate the pixel density of a 4k screen. Admittedly it’s not exactly 1/4 of my screen, however I’m confident it’s close enough for demonstration purposes.



Here are the results, a clearly defined high density pixel grid on a paper towel.



(Note Tapatalk would only allow a low resolution upload, the pixels were even clearer in person)

My, reason for doing this silly experiment? To dispel myths used to sell products at ridiculous margins. After all this is the Audio Video Sience forum not the Audio Video Sales forum. Plus, even crude science and experiments are always fun for me.

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Has anyone got a shipping confirmation that their projector has been shipped? Amazon stills that it is on track for delivery by the 3rd but it still hasnt shipped. Plus their website now says it is temporarily out of stock 😱. Just worried that i may not even get it and may need to wait for another month or two 🤦🏻*♂️
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P1 Update:
The units have left Optoma's facility with an ETA in NJ of Friday. All hands will be on deck to double-box them up and get them back out the same day. Everyone will receive their serial # with their tracking information so that they can be assured to be one of the first 200 people to leave a review on Optoma's website and get that $200 gift card.

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Fortunately some specialty resellers may have bought a boatload of P1s and may have a couple still available from this first wave.

The next round of P1s will not be available until mid-November so hopefully you get lucky on this first round.
They still have the same Thursday projected arrival (from Amazon) that I always have, but should add that I also do not have a tracking number as of yet.
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