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post #31 of 71 Old 08-07-2019, 07:43 PM
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Any recent news on this projector?

I may replace my Dell 4K UST projector with this one. It is August 2019 already. No news on its availability yet. :-(
Why are you replacing the Dell? Anything wrong with it. Asking because it’s on my list.
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Why are you replacing the Dell? Anything wrong with it. Asking because it’s on my list.
I don't own the Dell but just based on specs alone the Dell is a business projector and doesn't have great color (Rec709 only) or color controls, so he'll gain WAY better color with the 97% Rec2020 coverage the Hisense offers and better color calibration because the Hisense is oriented to home theater. The Dell isn't great on contrast either and I'm sure the Hisense will have better contrast with it's triple lasers, plus no worry about rainbows as the Hisense doesn't have a color wheel and the Dell does (a slow one at that).

If the money is there, that's a no brainer for me.
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Regardless of color source a single chip dmd can still only show on color at a time. So it is a disadvantage vs a 3chip design.

Not if each laser can be duty-cycled fast enough.

Then you have the best of 1- and 3-chip - not throwing a bunch of light away, and no misconvergence.
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Not if each laser can be duty-cycled fast enough.

Then you have the best of 1- and 3-chip - not throwing a bunch of light away, and no misconvergence.
I agree with your point, but technically it is still only one at a time. Just so fast that we can't tell that it is one at a time.
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I agree with your point, but technically it is still only one at a time. Just so fast that we can't tell that it is one at a time.

Ok, but I slightly disagree with your agreement, because I didn't say it's not one at a time
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Did I hear him correctly...$12,000? For 120 inch TV?

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Did I hear him correctly...$12,000? For 120 inch TV?
That's for the current Hisense (dual lasers), this one (triple lasers) will be even more! And it's not just TV; it's an Ultra Short Throw, triple laser, 100% Rec2020 projector...

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Awww, bless their heart.

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It's now Q4. Has anyone heard any news on when this might be released in USA, or seen any other reviews outside of CES?
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Has this become vaporware?

Did they think, "We should go 8k before release." - setting them back?
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Is that the same thing they just announced for $5k

https://www.engadget.com/2020/01/06/.../?guccounter=1

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Is that the same thing they just announced for $5k

https://www.engadget.com/2020/01/06/.../?guccounter=1
Not the same. What you linked to uses one blue laser. What the thread is about is a UST that has red, green and blue laser light source.
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Tons of info released at CES posted in this thread

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-di...l#post59070380

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I don't know if you realize but Hisense has a US division and has been selling products here in the states for many years now including at Best Buy and on Amazon so you don't have to worry about product support because it's fully warrantied for the US.
Their USA support team (for the LaserTV) is really good as well. We've had a couple issues but all of been resolved quickly.
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Their USA support team (for the LaserTV) is really good as well. We've had a couple issues but all of been resolved quickly.
Which model do you have ?
How do you like it ?
How is noise level ?

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Their USA support team (for the LaserTV) is really good as well. We've had a couple issues but all of been resolved quickly.
Any word if they'd sell the L9 without a bundled screen? Extremely interested but the included fixed screen kills it for me.
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Which model do you have ?
How do you like it ?
How is noise level ?
I have one in our demo room; customer service issues were for customer related problems.
We have the 100L10E combo (100" screen, dual laser) and it definitely is brighter and more vibrant that the LG HU85LA or Optoma P1... but also much more expensive.
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Any word if they'd sell the L9 without a bundled screen? Extremely interested but the included fixed screen kills it for me.
I'm hoping to have that info when I catch-up with the Laser TV Product Manager when they get back from CES.
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I have one in our demo room; customer service issues were for customer related problems.
We have the 100L10E combo (100" screen, dual laser) and it definitely is brighter and more vibrant that the LG HU85LA or Optoma P1... but also much more expensive.

How is the noise level of the projector ?
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Does the laser light turn off in areas of black? If not, what type of contrast ratio does this have? Also, how well do these calibrate?

Movies must be OAR, sports and movies must also have 5.1 audio, No EE or NO SALE!
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Does the laser light turn off in areas of black? If not, what type of contrast ratio does this have? Also, how well do these calibrate?
I would like to see 1 pixel to ansi measurements for this projector as well. Though I dont expect it to be much different than the lg. Turning the light source off on full black can be distracting with a lower native contrast ratio in certain transitions. In others its very effective though.

Gamma corrected solid state dimming can make for a decent contrast ratio if they used better dmds(3k native to 10-15k dynamic), but since the xprs native is a bit lower dynamic is usually 2-5k, I think only the theo z65 is the only xpr chip thats higher but I havent seen measurements.

They should calibrate very well due to the narrow band output of the lasers, the lasers natively put out very precise color in the 1nm range, and that with a dmds modulation transfer function yields a very flat grayscale so simple rgb gain adjustments results in a flat d65 through the entire range. Due to the rgb light source settings in a cms are very precise and simple, i.e. dont interact with other settings and make calibration quick and simple. Though theres some caution with trichroma sensors and solid state diodes
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Does the laser light turn off in areas of black?

Only a scanning laser can do that.
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How is the noise level of the projector ?
inaudible when you have any sort of audio playing (whether the integrated speakers or your own sound system). Even with no audio, I can't hear any noise over the low hum of the fresh air exchanger above the drop ceiling.
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Any word if they'd sell the L9 without a bundled screen? Extremely interested but the included fixed screen kills it for me.
They sell their current gen model without the screen, so it's quite possible they will do the same with the next gen. I don't have any official news/pricing regarding that yet.
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They sell their current gen model without the screen, so it's quite possible they will do the same with the next gen. I don't have any official news/pricing regarding that yet.
Really good to know, I didn't know that about their current gen!

What is the Hisense like in terms of throw distance? In terms of the main UST projectors I'm familiar with, LG is by far the shortest throw, Optoma is the longest, and the Xiaomi kind of lands in the middle. The only info I can seem to find is one random article saying that 8 inches from the wall creates a 100 inch image which puts it in-line with the Xiaomi.
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They sell their current gen model without the screen, so it's quite possible they will do the same with the next gen. I don't have any official news/pricing regarding that yet.
Thanks for info

What is current model price with 120in screen and 150in screen ?
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Really good to know, I didn't know that about their current gen!

What is the Hisense like in terms of throw distance? In terms of the main UST projectors I'm familiar with, LG is by far the shortest throw, Optoma is the longest, and the Xiaomi kind of lands in the middle. The only info I can seem to find is one random article saying that 8 inches from the wall creates a 100 inch image which puts it in-line with the Xiaomi.
In our demo room, the part of the projector closest to the screen is 9" away to make the 100" image. It is definately the best unit out of the 3 we have in there (LG, Optoma Hisense) but is also the most expensive.
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Thanks for info

What is current model price with 120in screen and 150in screen ?
They don't have a 150" pairing, but the 120 bundle retails for $12,999; $9,999 without the screen.
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I'm hoping to have that info when I catch-up with the Laser TV Product Manager when they get back from CES.
Were you able to get any update on the L9 from the Laser TV Product Manager? Not sure if I can ask about pricing (if we can talk pricing, by all means...), but anything in terms of when we can see this in the US and confirmed specs i.e. size (100", 120", 150") etc...

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I'm intrigued but would definitely have to see this with lights off and on to assess how good the PJ and included screen are.

Also, it'd be interesting to do a side by side with the blue laser model they just announced:

"L5 4K Ultra Short Throw Laser TV: The L5 offers an affordable and energy efficient solution to large LCD screens and gives viewers picture that exceeds standard 4K color range. The L5’s blue laser light source produces crisp images while avoiding extraneous light dispersion. Images appear smooth and precise regardless of speed, perfect for sports and gaming. The L5 also includes dbx-tv-enabled speakers and built-in Android TV. The L5 series will be available April 2020 for $5,999 MSRP."

BTW @swipes MSRPs are fair game for threads like this. Just can't discuss street/dealer pricing. For that go to the deals/pricing subforum.

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