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Optoma UHZ65UST - 4K Laser

The projector has been unveiled at ISE 2019 in Amsterdam. This is the only link I could find so far. Hopefully we’ll soon get some detailed specs, besides the reported 3000 ANSI lumens.

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Directly from ISE. Taken this morning. Un saludo, Javier G
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The features of the UHZ65 UST at a glance:
3,000 ANSI lumens
4K UHD resolution with 8.3 million pixels (Shifting)
Fully HDR10 and HLG compatible
3D support
Laser light source with 20,000 hours lifespan
100 inches (2.5 meters) projection from just 25 cm away
NuForce AC-3 ". Fits almost any DVD or Bluray. '> Dolby Digital 2.0 Soundbar
AC-3 ". Fits almost any DVD or Bluray. '> Dolby Digital Plus compatible
Netflix and Youtube 4K streaming
Optoma Connect app for iOS and Android phones
Remote control with Air Mouse function
Google Assistant and Amazon Alexa Language Assistant
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Translated from a German website which is taking preorders price expected at€4999
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If the performance is as good as UHZ65, this will be my next projector.
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In the press release below (from 2 years ago) they list this pj as having an MSRP of $20K, of course, in the competitive landscape 2 years ago the only similar projector at that time was the $25K Sony, so maybe they've come to their senses about the price. I can't see then using the same light engine as the UHZ65 and charging more than $5-6K…there are too many companies with imminent 4K UST laser releases for it to be higher than that (Epson, BenQ, Viewsonic, LG, Dell and Xiaomi, JMGO).

https://www.optoma.com/us/optoma-unv...s-at-ces-2017/

By the way, has anyone compared the Sony UST 4k with this one (or the UHX65 as it should be similar)? How about the Dell S718QL? Just curious if either of them pulls ahead?
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I believe that Sony is in a different category, only the lens assembly probably costs more than this projector.
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I believe that Sony is in a different category, only the lens assembly probably costs more than this projector.
This thread has been radio silent for awhile. Is Optoma still coming out with this 4k UST in the US?

Their page is still not very informative. https://www.optoma.co.uk/uhz65ust-4K-laser-projector

I even get an error and unable to sign up for updates on it.
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This thread has been radio silent for awhile. Is Optoma still coming out with this 4k UST in the US?

Their page is still not very informative. https://www.optoma.co.uk/uhz65ust-4K-laser-projector

I even get an error and unable to sign up for updates on it.
The model for US is called P1.

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The model for US is called P1.
And suppose to be out in Q2...which is a few days away from Q3. =) Does that mean it's coming this Sat? J/K.

I'm sure there are countless people watching the various threads for the latest projectors to get released.
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And suppose to be out in Q2...which is a few days away from Q3. =) Does that mean it's coming this Sat? J/K.

I'm sure there are countless people watching the various threads for the latest projectors to get released.
In EU will be available by the end of Q3, but the review units should arrive sometime in August (if Optoma rep is to be believed )
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Below is a copy of an email that a manager received back from the engineers in response to my questions on the CinemaX P1 specs (the usa version of the UHZ65UST).

I would love to hear some feedback on the quality and performance based on these. Will 3d have a jittery image because there isn't frame interloping?

OPTOMAS RESPONSE TO MY QUESTIONS.
Is frame interloping available for all content 720p, 1080p, 4k at all frame rates supported? Yes.

Frame interloping for 3d content? No.

Fix the white boarder on the .47 chip? Yes.

What is the native contrast on the P1? 15000:1 However, this requires verification.

Will there be a ust version coming out using the better .66 chip? TI has made considerably improvements to 0.47 DMD. The performance is now on par with the 0.66 DMD.

Can 3d content be played via usb from a hard drive? Yes.

Can Kodi application be downloaded to the unit? Unverified. We are still in testing mode.

Will 4k bluray be sharper and show more detail than a 1080p bluray outside of using HDR? Yes. 4K combined with the glass lens produces significantly sharper images than 1080p.

Picture uniformity percentage? 90%
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Below is a copy of an email that a manager received back from the engineers in response to my questions on the CinemaX P1 specs (the usa version of the UHZ65UST).

I would love to hear some feedback on the quality and performance based on these. Will 3d have a jittery image because there isn't frame interloping?

OPTOMAS RESPONSE TO MY QUESTIONS.
Is frame interloping available for all content 720p, 1080p, 4k at all frame rates supported? Yes.

Frame interloping for 3d content? No.

Fix the white boarder on the .47 chip? Yes.

What is the native contrast on the P1? 15000:1 However, this requires verification.

Will there be a ust version coming out using the better .66 chip? TI has made considerably improvements to 0.47 DMD. The performance is now on par with the 0.66 DMD.

Can 3d content be played via usb from a hard drive? Yes.

Can Kodi application be downloaded to the unit? Unverified. We are still in testing mode.

Will 4k bluray be sharper and show more detail than a 1080p bluray outside of using HDR? Yes. 4K combined with the glass lens produces significantly sharper images than 1080p.

Picture uniformity percentage? 90%
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Below is a copy of an email that a manager received back from the engineers in response to my questions on the CinemaX P1 specs (the usa version of the UHZ65UST).

I would love to hear some feedback on the quality and performance based on these. Will 3d have a jittery image because there isn't frame interloping?

OPTOMAS RESPONSE TO MY QUESTIONS.
Is frame interloping available for all content 720p, 1080p, 4k at all frame rates supported? Yes.

Frame interloping for 3d content? No.

Fix the white boarder on the .47 chip? Yes.

What is the native contrast on the P1? 15000:1 However, this requires verification.

Will there be a ust version coming out using the better .66 chip? TI has made considerably improvements to 0.47 DMD. The performance is now on par with the 0.66 DMD.

Can 3d content be played via usb from a hard drive? Yes.

Can Kodi application be downloaded to the unit? Unverified. We are still in testing mode.

Will 4k bluray be sharper and show more detail than a 1080p bluray outside of using HDR? Yes. 4K combined with the glass lens produces significantly sharper images than 1080p.

Picture uniformity percentage? 90%

Well, this one is complete BS: "What is the native contrast on the P1? 15000:1" I doubt it is 1,500:1 native.
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I was thinking they forgot a zero. I can see 150,000 to 1. I will clarify this with them
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I was thinking they forgot a zero. I can see 150,000 to 1. I will clarify this with them
No, that would be a ridiculous assumption for native contrast on an XPR DLP. None of these XPR DLP's have been over 2,000:1 and nearly all of them have been around 1,000:1 native contrast. Clarify all you want, but if they tell you native is over 2,000:1, then I question anything they say, because there is no way that projector is remotely close to 15,000:1 native.

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Projector reviews got 1,100:1 native for the UHZ65. Converting a UHZ65 to ultra short throw is not going to improve the native contrast. So like I said, around 1,000:1 native.
https://www.projectorreviews.com/opt...level/contrast

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Thank you for clarifying. I'm new to this and get confused with the information I'm reading. I saw a demo of the uhz65 and was very impressed. I really hope the image on the P1 is close to that quality.

Do you think 3d on the p1 would have jittery movement?
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Thank you for clarifying. I'm new to this and get confused with the information I'm reading. I saw a demo of the uhz65 and was very impressed. I really hope the image on the P1 is close to that quality.

Do you think 3d on the p1 would have jittery movement?
It depends on what you call jittery. Some people consider a 24P movie jittery, but it is playing like it is supposed to.
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I have an entry level samsung tv right now, when the camera pans across a scene, it isn't smooth/fluid motion. It seems to subtly move and stop, move and stop, which I consider jittery. I dont see this as much on even slightly higher end tvs. I hope that makes sense.

Do you think the P1 may have this issue?
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Hi guys, any news about the price and release date?
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I was thinking they forgot a zero. I can see 150,000 to 1. I will clarify this with them
Laser projectors can often dim the laser considerably or even turn it off completely, so the number might be correct when using dynamic dimming.
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Laser projectors can often dim the laser considerably or even turn it off completely, so the number might be correct when using dynamic dimming.
Yes, if the laser can shut off, it would be infinity :1, but we were talking native contrast, not dynamic. Specing 150,000:1 native with this projector is flat out a lie.

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Yes, if the laser can shut off, it would be infinity :1, but we were talking native contrast, not dynamic. Specing 150,000:1 native with this projector is flat out a lie.
The reply was tentative.
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here here we go with the U.S. Optoma P1 page!
https://www.optoma.com/us/cinemax-p1/

It is coming...and it says "up to 1.500.000 : 1 contrast with Dynamic Black"
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here here we go with the U.S. Optoma P1 page!
https://www.optoma.com/us/cinemax-p1/

It is coming...and it says "up to 1.500.000 : 1 contrast with Dynamic Black"
And yet I bet an Epson 5050 with 6,000:1 native contrast has better contrast and black levels.
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According to reliable information from Taiwan, there will only be a 0.47" P1 release.
The machine has been seen the day before, and the picture quality is amazing!
Maybe because of the distance (30 cm can project 100 inches)
It looks brighter than UHZ65, and the contrast is even better.
If your screen is within 120 inches, UHZ65 will not necessarily win.
I am using Google Translate, please forgive me @@
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