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post #91 of 102 Old 01-01-2020, 07:09 AM
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Question: would the RS2000 + Paladin DCR lens create a bright / contrasty enough image for a 13-foot wide 2:35 screen (likely using Studiotek 100 as the screen material)?
Use ST130 G4. This new material has less sparkle than previous versions. With ST130 G4 and DCR lens, you will have enough light output for HDR.
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Use ST130 G4. This new material has less sparkle than previous versions. With ST130 G4 and DCR lens, you will have enough light output for HDR.
Thanks, Mike and Mark. I've been hesitant to go with a gain screen if it can be avoided, as I'd much prefer to use material that doesn't show texture or sparkles.

I'm currently using a 16:9 Carada Classic Cinema White, that's 116 inches wide and 65 inches tall, paired with a JVC RS520, and it looks absolutely stunning in terms of brightness, detail, contrast and colour, with no visible screen texture.

I've not seen the G4 ST130, but I'd imagine that screen texture is visible on certain camera movements and pans?

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Thanks, Mike and Mark. I've been hesitant to go with a gain screen if it can be avoided, as I'd much prefer to use material that doesn't show texture or sparkles.



I'm currently using a 16:9 Carada Classic Cinema White, that's 116 inches wide and 65 inches tall, paired with a JVC RS520, and it looks absolutely stunning in terms of brightness, detail, contrast and colour, with no visible screen texture.



I've not seen the G4 ST130, but I'd imagine that screen texture is visible?



Happy new year, btw!


Get a screen sample! I don’t see texture on mine.


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Get a screen sample! I don’t see texture on mine.


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I love my ST130 with the RS2000.


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JVC RS3000/DLA-NX9 worth the extra $$$ over RS2000/NX7?

You guys that have the nx7. Is it bright enough to watch sports with windows open? I’m tired of my epson 5040 but my kids game on it and we watch sports. Hate to have all windows covered when watching sports. This is my setup. Bat cave at night but during day it gets a little light in through the blinds. My screen is a 120 center stage by Seymour screens. Thanks



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I’ve had the G4 ST130 micro perf up for week. Everything we’ve watched is just incredible. No sparkles whatsoever.
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If anyone is looking for an amazing new reference disk to try on the JVC NX series I highly recommend "Seven Worlds One Planet" the new BBC series. It will not be available in the US until March but one can order it from Amazon in the UK. It is mentioned in this thread.

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You guys that have the nx7. Is it bright enough to watch sports with windows open? I’m tired of my epson 5040 but my kids game on it and we watch sports. Hate to have all windows covered when watching sports. This is my setup. [/IMG]
How many hours are on your Epson 5040 lamp?
What mode you in and are you in lamp low/high when watching sports?

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If anyone is looking for an amazing new reference disk to try on the JVC NX series I highly recommend "Seven Worlds One Planet" the new BBC series. It will not be available in the US until March but one can order it from Amazon in the UK. It is mentioned in this thread.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...read-1078.html
I watched the first episode and it looked really good. Turtle Oddessy is my top reference disc so far.
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Thanks for clarifying this. So:

NX9 + DCR : 1900 calibrated lumens that quickly falls to 1700 (on high lamp). Add DCR and you are up to 2312 lumens.

RS4500: stable at 2447 calibrated lumens (High laser, using projector zoom for scope content)

Not sure if the added $7k usd for rs4500 is worth it for such a small brightness increment, slightly worse contrast, no HDR dynamic tone mapping firmware, loud / hot / large unit. I guess advantage is no need to recalibrate and no moving dynamic iris that can fail.

I know this is a few months old but I came across this and wanted to clarify a point.

Above it is mentioned 1900 lumens -> 1700 lumens -> 2312 lumens. I didn’t think it worked this way.

I thought it worked like this: Assume 1700 lumens calibrated for full panel. Displaying scope content adds black bars and wastes ~30 something % of your output. Now it is ~1200 lumens. Adding a DCR allows you to use the full panel to display scope content, reclaiming your lost lumens, back to 1700.

Or something roughly along those lines... IOW the DCR it doesn’t increase lumens beyond the max for the projector.

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I know this is a few months old but I came across this and wanted to clarify a point.

Above it is mentioned 1900 lumens -> 1700 lumens -> 2312 lumens. I didn’t think it worked this way.

I thought it worked like this: Assume 1700 lumens calibrated for full panel. Displaying scope content adds black bars and wastes ~30 something % of your output. Now it is ~1200 lumens. Adding a DCR allows you to use the full panel to display scope content, reclaiming your lost lumens, back to 1700.

Or something roughly along those lines... IOW the DCR it doesn’t increase lumens beyond the max for the projector.

I believe you are correct and my analysis was not. NX9 + DCR you would be at 1700 lumens for scope content.

So the RS4500 without DCR , on high laser : 3000 lumens, down to 2500 lumens when calibrated, down to 1550 lumens when scope content is zoomed (to account for 38% of light lost in the black bars). Is this right ? Seems very low.
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I believe you are correct and my analysis was not. NX9 + DCR you would be at 1700 lumens for scope content.

So the RS4500 without DCR , on high laser : 3000 lumens, down to 2500 lumens when calibrated, down to 1550 lumens when scope content is zoomed (to account for 38% of light lost in the black bars). Is this right ? Seems very low.

Ok, cool. I wasn’t sure if I was missing something!

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