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Sony 360ES vs 270ES

Hi,
My local dealer offer me 360ES for 3360€ and 270ES for 2700€.
Does this 660€ worth or not?
270ES has beautiful gradient, i think better than 360ES and that is really important to me.
But 360ES has iris (and lens shift). Is this lens shift really that important, is it really big problem to change it every time to ratio you want?
What about picture quailty?
Black level?

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Hi,
My local dealer offer me 360ES for 3360€ and 270ES for 2700€.
Does this 660€ worth or not?
270ES has beautiful gradient, i think better than 360ES and that is really important to me.
But 360ES has iris (and lens shift). Is this lens shift really that important, is it really big problem to change it every time to ratio you want?
What about picture quailty?
Black level?
Hi.
The 360 has lens memory and a dynamic iris for better basic contrast performance. 200,000:1 is quoted.
However, it only has 10.2Gbps HDMI ports and can only display 4K 50/60p in 4:2:0 8bit colour.
If you only watch UHD blurays at 24hz that is not an issue however. But if you watch streaming services the more modern 270 will repay with more trouble free operation.
It also has no 4K motion flow and older generation panels and Reality Creation.

The 270 has no lens memory, but all lens controls are still motorised.
It has no iris or any other physical dynamic contrast enhancement so contrast is less, but it does have the Dynamic contrast enhancer function that does work pretty well.
What it does have is 18Gbps full fat HDMI ports and can support 4K 50/60P in 4:2:2 10/12bit colour. It also has much superior video processing abilities, (X1 processor) which again add something to the perceived contrast that the 360 won't be able to match.
It also adds 4K motion flow settings and better Reality Creation power.

In theory, the 270 should have the better lens sample (but that is not easily confirmed). It will also have newer generation SXRD panels.

Best to view each of them at the same time with your favourite content and then make your mind up.

If it was me, unless you cannot live without lens memory and an iris, then the 270 is a more compelling buy simply due to the fact that the tech inside is more current and is more future facing than the 360.

I would want to buy the 360 for quite a bit less than the 270 if it was to be a good deal in my eyes as the 360 is old tech, two generations behind the 270.
I would bet that the 270's picture will be better than the 360's on 99% of occasions even with the iris taken into account.

Hope that helps. Have fun choosing!

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Hi.
The 360 has lens memory and a dynamic iris for better basic contrast performance. 200,000:1 is quoted.
However, it only has 10.2Gbps HDMI ports and can only display 4K 50/60p in 4:2:0 8bit colour.
If you only watch UHD blurays at 24hz that is not an issue however. But if you watch streaming services the more modern 270 will repay with more trouble free operation.
It also has no 4K motion flow and older generation panels and Reality Creation.

The 270 has no lens memory, but all lens controls are still motorised.
It has no iris or any other physical dynamic contrast enhancement so contrast is less, but it does have the Dynamic contrast enhancer function that does work pretty well.
What it does have is 18Gbps full fat HDMI ports and can support 4K 50/60P in 4:2:2 10/12bit colour. It also has much superior video processing abilities, (X1 processor) which again add something to the perceived contrast that the 360 won't be able to match.
It also adds 4K motion flow settings and better Reality Creation power.

In theory, the 270 should have the better lens sample (but that is not easily confirmed). It will also have newer generation SXRD panels.

Best to view each of them at the same time with your favourite content and then make your mind up.

If it was me, unless you cannot live without lens memory and an iris, then the 270 is a more compelling buy simply due to the fact that the tech inside is more current and is more future facing than the 360.

I would want to buy the 360 for quite a bit less than the 270 if it was to be a good deal in my eyes as the 360 is old tech, two generations behind the 270.
I would bet that the 270's picture will be better than the 360's on 99% of occasions even with the iris taken into account.

Hope that helps. Have fun choosing!
Thank You very much
You help me a lot
And what do You think about price?
2700€ is ok price?

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And what do You think about price?
2700€ is ok price?
Hi.

No problem!

As far as price is concerned, 2700 euros is a stellar deal for a 270 or a 360!

In the UK the 360 is still being sold for £6999 (which I find incredible) and the 270 is £4999.

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Thank You once again
And what do You think about price for the other projector?

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And what do You think about price for the other projector?
I showed the price still being charged over here, so it is a good deal regardless. However with the 360 being 'old' tech, I would want to pay at least 20% less than the current model.

However, that is still dependant on viewing them both first. You may find either of them worth nothing over or under the other if one is significantly better to watch than the other.

In other words, if you watch them both and prefer the 360, then I would only get it if they will let you have it cheaper than the 270.

I hope that makes sense.

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Hey there. How did you get on? Which did you choose in the end?

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