Originally Posted by blake
I have budgeted $10k for a projector for a basement, dedicated HT in our new house build underway. My short list:
JVC rs2000 / nx7
1. The room will be 16’ wide by 20’ long. 2 rows of seating.
2. Screen: Seymour Screen Excellence new TRIM series (“less expensive” motorized masking 16:9 / 2.40). AT screen (either Enlightor Bright or Enlightor Neo - gain 1.1 and 1.0 respectively). Not sure on size yet - either 110”, 114” or 126” diagonal. Size suggestion for this setup ?
3. Use case : 50% movies (Apple TV 4K and probably Kaleidoscope at some point), 30% 1080p broadcast/TV, 20% gaming (PC and Xbox One).
All these projectors are +\- $2k. So if you take price out of the equation , which would you recommend and why ?
The Sony was my favorite as it has the best video processing (upscale, motion), response time for gaming, and blacks, but it lacks on color space and brightness compared to the others. Thoughts ?
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I'm posting because I had the 695ES and now have the HT9060. The Sony's Triluminos color looks pretty good though and you could still get close to 90% of P3. I like its motion handling so much. It has low lag. Black levels are good. And I had no issues with it except some occasional banding which was virtually eliminated once I did the service tweak.
Calibrated high lamp should get you close to around 1,600 lumens. But high lamp is loud.
Are you considering the BenQ because it's a solid state machine or because of its lens, or both?
The BenQ will not have the contrast of the Sony or the JVC.
As far as its light life, it doesn't operate in just high or low mode. It has Smarteco which activates its best contrast via dynamic dimming and is likely the mode most will use all the time. That may be why there's an asterisk added to the 20,000 hour spec. Engaging Smarteco will have the LEDs run in high for the brightest scenes and in low for lower APL scenes. So, let's say an hour-long video has 50% (1/2 hour's worth) low APL content; so, what you have then is for a 1/2 hour, the projector was run in its low mode and for the other half in high.
Calibrated HDR will be more than bright enough for you. I have a 1.1 gain 125 inch screen and I have to run the HT9060 in HDR -1 brightness (HDR separate brightness mode) and it's still too bright at times. I calibrated mine to full DCI p3 too. See the photo below.
Pushing that HDR brightness mode in the projector to 2+ would be very bright, which I'd estimate to be over 1900 "calibrated" lumens on mine. I put calibrated in quotation marks because 2+ will cause some white to be blown out. By the way, calibrating SDR actually increased the brightness on mine because Cyan was raised.
Know that the projector will run near silent when projecting those high lumens whereas the Sony in high lamp will be pretty audible. I did not see the NX7, but you can read in those threads to see if it's reported as pretty audible in high lamp mode also.
As far as losing lumens in HDR on the 9060, I wonder if that's a result of tone mapping. When I use external tone-mapping rather than doing it in the projector, I do see the brightness come down a bit. To explain this in a very simple way is to say that projectors, even something as bright as this HT9060, don't have the light output of most LED TVs. So let's say a specular highlight in the mastered content appears at certain nits but is 30 steps brighter than the darker content in the image. Proper tone-mapping will scale down that ratio on the projector and reduce the total brightness of the image to match the 30 step difference.
The lens on the 9060 is outstanding! --better than the Sony 695's and I would be very surprised if someone can prove the JVC NX7 lens is as good as the 9060's; my guess is that you'd have to move up to something like the NX9 to get comparable high-end optics.
Some of the negatives on the Sony 695ES that I had with mine include high price, some banding, although the service menu tweak should take care of that, or at least mostly. Also, while the iris action is not aggressive and does not manipulate gamma, it also does not make dark images with bright highlights pop like the JVC's DI I've seen in the past.
I haven't seen the NX7, so you'll have to go to those related threads to see what owners are reporting.
Negatives on the HT9060: Watching 3D was not what I was used to from DLP; it was a bit soft and fatiguing. Dimming on the HT9060 is excellent and I haven't seen any pumping artifacts, but I just wish it was a bit more aggressive to bring down black levels even more, like an 8x factor. The weak point of the 9060 is its contrast when compared with the two lamp options you mention. If your room is not light controlled with at least dark walls, you might not fully appreciate the better contrast of the Sony or JVC projectors anyway. The HT9060 appears to be upconverting to 60hz, although I haven't officially confirmed this as of yet. Lastly, if automated lens controls are important to you, the HT9060 doesn't have them.