Originally Posted by docrog
... I'd love to read whether your "one box does it all" nVidia streamer is able to rival my 820/420 results for all HDR Netflix & BR content.
I sincerely wish I could invite you to come watch some content, if you ever find yourself on this side of the country, you are welcome to drop by.
It could be that I just haven't seen anything better, but what I see when watching any of my ripped content (all uncompressed blu ray and UHD content, about 29 terabytes so far) is the most amazing picture I have ever seen. I am truly in awe of what is on my screen, and I can't even fathom how it could be better. (edit - I attribute this to the projector, not to the player)
I've A/B'd with an actual disc spinner and I don't see any difference, not that I would expect it. A codec is a codec, and it does what it is supposed to do: convert the digital data to a digital video stream, and the output should be the same (before the Panasonic applies the static tone map).
Whether having the Panasonic do a static tone map on the content first and then having the JVC apply DTM to that processed image is better than just having the JVC do the DTM (or having MadVR or a Lumagen do it for that matter) should technically be the only differences here, and I think in the end it is all subjective as to which is better. I'm fairly convinced that while I could get better with a high end processor like MadVR or Lumagen, the differences would be small, like .5%, and for $5k+ I don't see the value.
My opinion, based on my understanding of tone mapping and the tech in the Panasonic and JVC, is that by using the Panasonic to tone map first, you are pre-baking the meal. Then all the JVC has to do is make sure to adjust the temperature of the oven to make sure it comes out perfect. A good chef starting from scratch will have more control over the cooking process from start to finish, but you have to trust the chef that it knows how to cook. I think my JVC is a good chef and can prepare a better meal than the premade one from Panasonic. That's just my opinion though, and how you use your tech is totally up to you.
In contrast to the quality of uncompressed blu ray and UHD content, Netflix and Amazon will never hold a candle. If anything, having such an amazing projector makes me notice the artifacts of a compressed stream more than I would have in a lesser setup. It still looks great and I feel like it simply can't get better as long as Netflix is limiting a 4k stream to under 15mbps. So I have no real point of reference. I haven't seen Netflix better with any player/TV combo, so I have nothing that makes me think I am not getting the best possible image with the Shield playing through the JVC.
I see frame matching issues on FireTV all the time, but never on the Shield. That's one of the reasons I like it so much - it just works with everything. Maybe someday I will try a different streamer and realize what I am missing, but when you already have the best you have ever seen and you are happy with it, why would you want to try to find better? What if you find that the only thing better costs $10k more and now you don't feel like you have the best... It's a slippery slope.