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Oh. My. God.

Here's a pic of the new RS2000 and the Panny UB9000 (hard to see) from AVS in my basement HT/entertainment room. The JVC is just massive. Controller for scale. I won't be set up until Saturday. Gotta cut out a hole the back wall and mount the PJ on a shelf in my unfinished basement area to the right of what you see. The old Panny AE8000u is small and saddened...

I. CAN'T. WAIT.
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Pretty good room, not bad at all. JVC should look great in that room.

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Thanks coderguy! I will try to take a better picture later.
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Oh. My. God.



Here's a pic of the new RS2000 and the Panny UB9000 (hard to see) from AVS in my basement HT/entertainment room. The JVC is just massive. Controller for scale. I won't be set up until Saturday. Gotta cut out a hole the back wall and mount the PJ on a shelf in my unfinished basement area to the right of what you see. The old Panny AE8000u is small and saddened...



I. CAN'T. WAIT.
Very nice looking theater room. Did you take off from work on Friday? LOL.

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@skylarlove1999 I....I think I feel something coming on.....
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IT'S HAPPENING!

And yes, I just vacuumed the cobwebs. Lol. Damned basements....
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And yes, I just vacuumed the cobwebs. Lol. Damned basements....
I think you should be feeling better shortly. LOL. Can't wait to see it.

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IT'S HAPPENING!

And yes, I just vacuumed the cobwebs. Lol. Damned basements....
I am not sure that shelf bracket will be beefy enough. It looks like it could only support a few hundred pounds each.
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I am not sure that shelf bracket will be beefy enough. It looks like it could only support a few hundred pounds each. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/IMG]
Haha. It is incredibly strong. I bought a $55 8x4 sheet of incredibly hard and smooth plywood. I am taking no chances!! I am sure I could sit on it!
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[QUOTE=HudsonK;59103258]Haha. It is incredibly strong. I bought a $55 8x4 sheet of incredibly hard and smooth plywood. I am taking no chances!! I am sure I could sit on it![/QUOTE]

Yep. I do overkill also. And why not, it hardly costs anymore to make it extra sturdy.
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IT'S HAPPENING!

And yes, I just vacuumed the cobwebs. Lol. Damned basements....
Nice ! More throw distance and the projector noise in another room ( assuming there will be a front closure panel ).
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Yeah. It is an absolute no-brainer when you"ve just spend so many thousands of dollars...
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Nice ! More throw distance and the projector noise in another room ( assuming there will be a front closure panel ). [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
Yes! I truly needed this extra 20 inches or so. I am going to be golden...
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Yes! I truly needed this extra 20 inches or so. I am going to be golden...
And your setup is easier to work on than having a projector in a " hush box ". You have a similar arrangement to my projector closet. Well done !
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Ah cool. How did it work going through a closet?

I am sooo lucky to have unfinished space behind my basement HT....
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Ah cool. How did it work going through a closet?

I am sooo lucky to have unfinished space behind my basement HT....
Check my photos ( in my signature ). Yes - you lucked out. It's always great when things just work out !
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Check my photos ( in my signature ). Yes - you lucked out. It's always great when things just work out !
I just went through your entire thread. Magnificent theater and work. I just ordered my first acoustic panels myself. Very much looking forward to implementing them....

Well done!

Hey btw, I was skimming a bit. Do you have powered curtains over your screen? Any recommendation there? I'd love it for the look and for masking my CIH 2.35...

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I just went through your entire thread. Magnificent theater and work. I just ordered my first acoustic panels myself. Very much looking forward to implementing them....

Well done!

Hey btw, I was skimming a bit. Do you have powered curtains over your screen? Any recommendation there? I'd love it for the look and for masking my CIH 2.35...

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No need for powered curtains since they are both electric screens. If I want just curtains, I just roll the screens up. But the theater has morphed into a dedicated theater, so one or the other of the screens usually stay down.
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Well, dangit. I am stuck in 1080p. My RX-a2020 does not pass 4k. Gotta wait until Friday for the 3080 to come in.

Hard to give a first impression so far. I've not turned off the lights. I have been going through all the menus. Been really struggling to get a square image. The bottom left was stepping out when everything else was square. I shifted the position of the PJ, played with the feet, digitally shifted, and had to compromise with a -2 keystone so far (no trapezoid adjustments that I found.

Anyway. Quite a bit of punch in low eco mode here. I can't wait to hit 4k and HDR on Friday. Till then, I'll work on the physical stuff that I can in the HT. Atmos speakers are late and come tomorrow. Plenty to do.
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He has dual screens so he does not use direct masking. I doubt most curtains would be firm enough to keep a perfect edge for masking. You could put flocked velvet (it's pretty thick) on a motorized curtain setup, but motorized curtain setups are bulky and hard to know what you're buying, and they can be lacking in perfect positioning. The default easy way for SCOPE MASKING is to buy a dual linear actuator motor (already synchronized) and one that comes with a remote. Almost all the remotes are RF though, so you'll have to initially use their remote unless you convert the signal. A stepper motor is smaller and probably more accurate, there are numerous youtube videos of people that made pulley systems (some disadvantages to that though).

For scope screens to a masked 16:9 & 2:1, you can also just make manual masking panels tall enough to just lean them against the screen.

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He has dual screens so he does not use direct masking. I doubt most curtains would be firm enough to keep a perfect edge for masking. You could put flocked velvet (it's pretty thick) on a motorized curtain setup, but motorized curtain setups are bulky and hard to know what you're buying, and they can be lacking in perfect positioning. The default easy way for SCOPE MASKING is to buy a dual linear actuator motor (already synchronized) and one that comes with a remote. Almost all the remotes are RF though, so you'll have to initially use their remote unless you convert the signal. A stepper motor is smaller and probably more accurate, there are numerous youtube videos of people that made pulley systems (some disadvantages to that though).

For scope screens to a masked 16:9 & 2:1, you can also just make manual masking panels tall enough to just lean them against the screen.

See this thread for some ideas...
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...l#post59075462
@coderguy Thanks man! Yeah I planed on static panels with magnets when I can get to it. But my projector screen is recessed, so I could track curtains really tight to the screen. Though I would look at what's out there...
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@coderguy Thanks man! Yeah I planed on static panels with magnets when I can get to it. But my projector screen is recessed, so I could track curtains really tight to the screen. Though I would look at what's out there...
Magnets are not really necessary for Scope screens, easier to just lean the panels against the screen. You can use magnets if you want it perfectly flush, but it will not look any different from seating position with or without magnets for us scope owners. The great thing about panels is you just set them to the side and they completely blend in with a TBV wall, you don't even know they are there.

It's possible to use curtains, but there is just no way to know if whatever you bought would work.

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@coderguy - ok thanks!

Ok, guys. Had the new PJ fired up last night.

I had to bypass the old RX-a2020 and plug directly from the UB9000 to the RS2000 in order to get 4k. And send optical audio to the a2020 from the UB9000.

I threw in Apollo 13 UHD BR. I have seen this a lot, and didn't want to ruin a different movie with a partial test viewing. And the contrast, colours, and black level were glorious. Utterly smashes my AE8000u. Space looks like space finally, and it must take a massive cost upgrade to get better than this.

The picture did look soft, though. And very grainy. If you guys can feed back on this title, that would be great. I think it was largely the source, especially the grain. Because on pause, going to the animated Universal screen, it looked quite sharp and clean, and of course, with excellent contrast and blacks. Really punchy.

But I did have trouble on the test screen with lines, getting a sharpness with focus. It looked soft, and also showed misconvergence on both sides of the white lines. The misconvergence was a couple of mm on either side of those white guidelines (145" 2.35:1 screen at 12 feet viewing, 16 feet from the PJ). But I think I read somewhere that convergence improves with projector break-in? Is that right?

Anyway, really happy so far. And Mike Garret was again, helping me late into the night with my trouble updating the PJ firmware. Ended up being an issue with the USB stick I was using. It updated perfectly with a new stick, which I think required less power. The first stick was puking on data transfer even from my laptop.

Anyhow, look forward to feedback on the above images.

Cheers!

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Well, dangit. I am stuck in 1080p. My RX-a2020 does not pass 4k. Gotta wait until Friday for the 3080 to come in.

Hard to give a first impression so far. I've not turned off the lights. I have been going through all the menus. Been really struggling to get a square image. The bottom left was stepping out when everything else was square. I shifted the position of the PJ, played with the feet, digitally shifted, and had to compromise with a -2 keystone so far (no trapezoid adjustments that I found.

Anyway. Quite a bit of punch in low eco mode here. I can't wait to hit 4k and HDR on Friday. Till then, I'll work on the physical stuff that I can in the HT. Atmos speakers are late and come tomorrow. Plenty to do.
Remove the keystone.
With left bottom corner outside the screen you need to do the following.

1. Reduce picture size so that everything is inside the frame.
2. raise left side of projector until error is equal at top and bottom left corner. This will give you a sloped top and sloped bottom line of the image. Slopes should be about the same.
3. Physically rotate projector toward the right corner, until the top and bottom lines are parallel with the screen.
4. Horizontal lens shift the image back onto the screen.
5. zoom the image to fit the screen.
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Hi Mike, I have not gotten to this yet. Don't you mean to raise the right side of the projector? Would that not tuck in the bottom left corner toward center? I picture that if I raise the left side, that it will exacerbate the bottom left corner being wider.
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hi there is a lot of film frame in that movie, a great film but not the best UHD out there.

If you want to see a reference UHD pick up Mortal Engines. this was filmed in 8K with Red cameras and has a 4K DI. It's a visually spectacular film and a good title to demonstrate what the projector is capable of.

https://www.amazon.com/Mortal-Engine.../dp/6317640173
I've picked that up but haven't watched it yet. Other good 4K demo discs -

Alita Battle Angel
Logan Lucky
Deadpool 2
Hacksaw Ridge
Baby Driver
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I've picked that up but haven't watched it yet. Other good 4K demo discs -



Alita Battle Angel

Logan Lucky

Deadpool 2

Hacksaw Ridge

Baby Driver

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Logan is pretty pristine video as well in 4K HDR.

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Alita Battle Angel
Logan Lucky
Deadpool 2
Hacksaw Ridge
Baby Driver
Get Out
This is worth an import from Amazon UK if you get a chance, it's one of the best i've seen yet from this series. not avail in the US until mid-march

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Thanks guys. I have these from that list:

Alita
Logan
DP 1&2
Hacksaw Ridge


My Yammy 3080 came today. Doesn't fit in my damned AV rack (open shelf). The second shelf is just too short, and I gotta keep the 2020 which doesn't fit there either. You guys have any recommendations for racks with good shelf height that are open?
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Thanks guys. I have these from that list:



Alita

Logan

DP 1&2

Hacksaw Ridge





My Yammy 3080 came today. Doesn't fit in my damned AV rack (open shelf). The second shelf is just too short, and I gotta keep the 2020 which doesn't fit there either. You guys have any recommendations for racks with good shelf height that are open?
I have used these in the past. Modular and versatile. Only comes with two shelves but you can order more. There are also taller ones for more components. That is the 1620 model.

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-LPBUIw...hoC1w8QAvD_BwE

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