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Have you had a chance to watch the 60fps version?
Nope but I can only imagine how good of quality it must be.

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Nope but I can only imagine how good of quality it must be.
Opinions are split on the 60fps/HFR.

Some actual 60 fps samples.

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I think all of these are from the 4K 60fps (59.40) disc, not interpolated:
LE: for some reason the color gamut is REC.709.

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Achibald1, what equipment are you using (pj, screen,...)? The shots are fantastic.
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Opinions are split on the 60fps/HFR.

Some actual 60 fps samples.
Are these two videos from a different colour gamut because the second looks overtly vivid whilst the first looks a little pale, after rewatching both scenes on mine I reckon the 1080P is somewhere in between these two but probably closer to the first.

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Opinions are split on the 60fps/HFR.
I for one, absolutely love the 60fps movie style. It is so immersive as it feels like you are actually there watching it in person, not watching a recording of it. Fantastic. I can only imagine what that native 120fps would be like!!

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Are these two videos from a different colour gamut because the second looks overtly vivid whilst the first looks a little pale, after rewatching both scenes on mine I reckon the 1080P is somewhere in between these two but probably closer to the first.
Not sure what happened to the color gamut, but the enhancement is in the increased frames. The 1080p Blu Ray has 24fps, while the UHD has 60. The difference should be notable.

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I for one, absolutely love the 60fps movie style. It is so immersive as it feels like you are actually there watching it in person, not watching a recording of it. Fantastic. I can only imagine what that native 120fps would be like!!
Some theaters did show the 120fps version which was great according to some who saw it, unfortunately neither Billy Lynn or Gemini Man will have a disc released in that frame rate. And I don't think they'll let Ang Lee make any more of these.
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1917 is definitely eye candy and also a great movie. Kudos to JVC on the NX9 and RS4500. They really knocked it out of the park. To be honest, it is probably more difficult to find a bad unit these days.
Hi, 12Gage. I'm not sure why you're advertising this point here. But since we are on the topic, why not throw in the NX7 (and the NX5 for that matter). I've seen the NX9 and almost bought one. It was on the pricey side, so I wound up with the NX7 and really liked the images. The NX7's and NX9's images really were not night and day different to me, with the NX7 at less than half the price of the NX9.
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Opinions are split on the 60fps/HFR.

Some actual 60 fps samples.
Weirdly, even when playing those clips back at 60hz in 4K on my 4K monitor, they still do not come across as silky smooth and realistic as the UHD disc.
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If you don't mind, what make is the screen?
Sorry, I didn't say as I couldn't remember and I was in bed.

It is a Metroplan. Or at least that is what it says on it.

I bought it years ago on offer as it was the last one they had. Normally three figures but I got it for a couple of hundred.

It started off white but I covered the case and bar in black insulating tape and then sprayed it with matt black paint. (If I ever want it to be white again I can just remove the tape).

It is a heavy duty 16:9 electric screen (non tensioned) but it is thick and multi-layered with 2 inch black borders and hangs flat even though there is no tension. No hotspots or sparkling going on.

No idea of gain but it is matt white with a fine texture, so I would guess 1.0.

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Here is a couple of images of the same frame but I changed the exposure of my phone between the two to try to show the entire range I can see with my eyes on screen.

So, if you look at both pics, I can see shadow detail on screen like the first image but the image presents more like the darker more contrasty second picture.

Hope that makes sense.


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Not sure what happened to the color gamut, but the enhancement is in the increased frames. The 1080p Blu Ray has 24fps, while the UHD has 60. The difference should be notable.



Some theaters did show the 120fps version which was great according to some who saw it, unfortunately neither Billy Lynn or Gemini Man will have a disc released in that frame rate. And I don't think they'll let Ang Lee make any more of these.
Did the movie get shot with dual cameras? If not then you will be losing 4 out of every five frames of information reducing it to 24fps and it would look a bit shonky at best I would say.

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Here is a couple of images of the same frame but I changed the exposure of my phone between the two to try to show the entire range I can see with my eyes on screen.

So, if you look at both pics, I can see shadow detail on screen like the first image but the image presents more like the darker more contrasty second picture.

Hope that makes sense.


Completely agree, my images look like how I post them contrast wise but my eyes are seeing more shadow detail than my camera is seeing.
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Weirdly, even when playing those clips back at 60hz in 4K on my 4K monitor, they still do not come across as silky smooth and realistic as the UHD disc.
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Could be the screen diagonal, motion handling of the Sony, or rendering method. Could be how the YT videos were extracted and processed by the user.

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Did the movie get shot with dual cameras? If not then you will be losing 4 out of every five frames of information reducing it to 24fps and it would look a bit shonky at best I would say.
I can't remember where i read this conversation, might be on the GM thread.

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Gemini Man was shot in 3D 4K at 120 frames per second. Its presentation on Ultra HD Blu-ray is derived from the 4K digital intermediate and rendered at 60 frames per second.

The 1080p transfer for Gemini Man looks great and this Ultra HD rendering takes it to another level with a discernible increase in detail, emboldened contrast, and a noticeably sharper image.

Gemini Man was shot in 3D/4K at 120 frames per second and rendered at 60 frames per second here. I am not particularly a fan of how this comes across in a cinematic process, as I found it to be distracting. This was not taken into account with respect to rating the video’s quality. The video has an overtly smooth/glistening sheen (aka the soap opera effect) that left it appearing less filmic and, more like a documentary, or after school special. At times the high frame rate combined with the razor sharpness made visual effects much easier to see. While that sometime proved distracting, I must admit to finding that there were other times where the image drew me with its 3D like appearance. At the end of the day I didn’t dislike the presentation due to the high frame rate, I simply prefer the traditional 24 frames per second for filmmaking.

Having not seen this film’s theatrical presentation, I can’t be certain but, I believe that what we are seeing is a faithful rendering of the film elements which are excellent.
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Anna (2019) UHD has some real reference quality moments. Another one that felt like watching a 150" OLED.













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Bloodshot (2020) UHD looked and sounded great but really has some super saturated colors so hard to gauge the color palette. There were some scenes were the colors were neutral but those were few in between.















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Guns Akimbo (2019) Blu-ray. Now this was a fun shoot'em up type of movie. Audio and soundtrack was insane. Blu-ray is reference quality so I really want the UHD if it comes out.











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Thanks @Killroy , more great shots. Never have seen that one, may have to check it out. Is it similar to the Clive Owen Shoot Em Up flick?
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Thanks @Killroy , more great shots. Never have seen that one, may have to check it out. Is it similar to the Clive Owen Shoot Em Up flick?
Agreed. @Killroy some great shots there my friend!

I loved Anna. Visceral and gritty and just a great action flick. Helen Mirren was great as usual.

I am reluctant to watch yet another attempt at a franchise by Mr Oilburner, but it looks intriguing. Never heard of 'Guns Akimbo', but if it is anything like 'Shoot 'Em Up' it will be most entertaining.
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Agreed. @Killroy some great shots there my friend!

I loved Anna. Visceral and gritty and just a great action flick. Helen Mirren was great as usual.

I am reluctant to watch yet another attempt at a franchise by Mr Oilburner, but it looks intriguing. Never heard of 'Guns Akimbo', but if it is anything like 'Shoot 'Em Up' it will be most entertaining.
Same here. All my guests loved it - some liked it more than Atomic Blonde ( which I also like a lot ).
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Agreed. @Killroy some great shots there my friend!

I loved Anna. Visceral and gritty and just a great action flick. Helen Mirren was great as usual.

I am reluctant to watch yet another attempt at a franchise by Mr Oilburner, but it looks intriguing. Never heard of 'Guns Akimbo', but if it is anything like 'Shoot 'Em Up' it will be most entertaining.
Thanks guys... Yes, Guns Akimbo is very similar to Owen's 'Shoot 'Em up'... kinda silly with over the top violence and total break from reality physics.
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Nice. Not available on 4K yet then I guess?

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Nice. Not available on 4K yet then I guess?
Nope...haven't even seen an announcement for future 4K release.
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Don't know if it's just me, but some of the picture you've posted recently don't look as good as some of the older ones. They look like pictures from a movie broadcast by a TV station.
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LOL, some movies are better quality than others.

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LOL, some movies are better quality than others.
The Jumani ones looked the same. The picture seems to be low resolution, grain/noise, and low contrast. It's like I'm watching a movie in 1998, on TV.

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The Jumani ones looked the same. The picture seems to be low resolution and has some grain.
It’s simply the quality of the recording, funnily I loan the brother a few discs to watch and it was Gemini Man he watched first on his OLED and he’s a 4K guy through and through, just got a text saying the following. When this disc is really good the Epson really shines.
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A few more of Gemini man.... Absolutely fandabulous picture quality on the screen. Proper demo material!






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