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JVC 790 vs NX5 vs Epson 5050

Hey, everyone. Periodic lurker from time to time, but this is my first post. I'm in the process of making all the purchases for my dedicated 16 x 26 movie room. Need help on projector selection. I've read a ton of threads, articles, reviews over the last week, but value your input on my specific setup.

Room is 26ft deep by 16ft wide x 9ft high. Room is completely light controlled with a very dark gray on ceiling/walls (Sherwin Williams Peppercorn). 7.2.4 setup with two rows of seating (not placed yet). Probably going somewhere around 18/19ft throw distance. Likely going with Silver Ticket 158" 2.35 woven acoustic screen which is 1.1 gain. Probably 70% movies / 30% regular TV and sports. Not much if any gaming (PCs for that).

Looking in the $3k-$4k street price range. For context, only other projector I've had was a 1080p BenQ HT3050 on a Silver Ticket 120" 1.0 gain screen. For me, family, and friends, it was amazing. (Up until a year ago when we started building a new house, hence the new setup...) So with that I started looking at the BenQ 5550 which led me to the Epson 5050, which looked / read should be better. That lead me to looking at the JVCs.

Right now I think I'm set on the JCV 790 for the contrast, etc. even though it appears top be about $1k more than the Epson. I'm willing to pay that difference if it really is better. From what I conclude, people make it out to be better in almost every material category, save for maybe input lag and brightness. The NX5 looks to be better (e.g. native 4k and HDR, etc.) minus the step back in contrast. I've seen it online sub $5k, but not sure I trust those stores. If it really is closer to $6k, it drops out of the running. But somewhere around $4,750 I could make that work.

1. Thoughts on the 3 projectors for this setup? I'm leaning on the JVC 790 right now. Your opinion, is it that much better than the Epson 5050? Neither are that new, but I am okay with that. Won't be swapping out for a very long time, so I see the appeal of the native 4k on the NX5. Budget wise I don't think it fits unless there is a really good deal out there somewhere.

2. Related to the above, probably biggest question is brightness. per some calculators, looks like 16:9 content will be ~39fl and zoomed in 2.35 will be ~25fl. But not sure if that the brightest settings, etc. HDR is great, and I would notice it, but the rest of the family would not.

3. Recommended seating distances for the 2 rows? Maybe somewhere between 11-12ft row 1 and 14-16ft row 2? Going to build a riser for 2nd row.

4. Recommended screen height? Haven't researched this one yet, so feel free to tell me to go do my own homework first. Total of almost 4ft of blank wall space to play with on top/bottom. Maybe completely centered? Want enough space above/below for masking when zoomed in for 2.35 content.

And yes, I've read the threads Just wanting some specific input. Thanks!
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I own the equivalent to the Epson 9400 which is similar in spec to the 6050 but close enough to the 5050 to give a valid opinion. I’ve owned mine since it was released and frankly it continues to blow me away, the x7900 has it comfortably beat in black levels but based on my experience with its little brother the x5900 I felt the Epson edges it on offering a sharper image.

Personally if you are willing to include the N5 in your shortlist that would be the one I would be going for, it’s sharper than both the Epson and the x7900, it’s blacks are better than the Epson and though not quite the level of the x7900 it close enough plus it’s built in DTM is better than anything the other two have, though that being said I recently switched my Panasonic UB420 Bluray player to SDR BT2020 so if does the tonal mapping instead of the Epson and the difference is noticeable with better blacks and shadow detail that was otherwise crushed before.

In the America you have a role reversal compared to the UK in that over here Epson is super competitively priced and JVC isn’t so my Epson is less than half the price of the N5 and frankly it’s offering about 85% is performance but I can tell you this, if I used my projector twice as much as I do I would buy the N5 without a doubt but as I don’t I am more than happy with the results I get.
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First off, congrats on the new theater build.



The Silver Ticket AT screen is not really 1.1 gain, but more like .75, as are most of the AT screen materials. There is nothing wrong with that, as I have one and it works fine. Would you be open to a DIY screen build? You can really build a great AT screen with Spandex (go to the DIY screen subforum and look for Mississippi Man for details) and if you want to use another AT fabric, Dreamscreen sells their well regarded V6 fabric to DIY's and SeymourAV sells both their Center Stage XD and UF fabric for DIYers at excellent prices.


I'm a JVC fan, and you could make an argument either way between the NX5 and X790. I've heard of some really good prices on B stock units for both so it might be worth reaching out to a dealer or two and see what sorts of deals are out there. I'd go with either of the JVC's over the Epson, but I've seen an 5040 and it wasn't bad either.


You need a minimum of 6.5' between your back row and your first row.


To be honest, I'd recommend starting a thread in the "Theater Design and Construction" section of AVS as there are a lot of really experienced builders there that can help you better than I can.
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First off, congrats on the new theater build.

The Silver Ticket AT screen is not really 1.1 gain, but more like .75, as are most of the AT screen materials. There is nothing wrong with that, as I have one and it works fine. Would you be open to a DIY screen build?
I'd be open to a DIY screen, though I haven't looked into them before. AT material is a requirement. There would have to be some obvious benefits to it though (assuming cost is the biggest). If not much more gain due to the AT constraint, it would have to be a lot of $$ savings to be worth it.
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I'd be open to a DIY screen, though I haven't looked into them before. AT material is a requirement. There would have to be some obvious benefits to it though (assuming cost is the biggest). If not much more gain due to the AT constraint, it would have to be a lot of $$ savings to be worth it.
Everything I have heard and read suggests a spandex screen will have slightly less gain 0.6 but as a material it very acoustically transparent and seems to offer as good an image quality as anything else. There’s only one thing about acoustic screens and that the distance point when it’s pattern becomes visible, as long as you stay beyond this point it’s all good.

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Everything I have heard and read suggests a spandex screen will have slightly less gain 0.6 but as a material it very acoustically transparent and seems to offer as good an image quality as anything else. There’s only one thing about acoustic screens and that the distance point when it’s pattern becomes visible, as long as you stay beyond this point it’s all good.
AT qualities of spandex is good. Video quality less so. You have a loss of sharpness compared to the better AT fabrics. Here is a thread talking about it. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/110-d...sharpness.html
The sixth post in that thread explains why you lose sharpness with spandex.
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Thanks, all. I think I've decided on the NX5. I was able to go to Best Buy yesterday and compare the NX5 and Epson 6050. (They didn't have an Epson 5050 or JVC 790.)

I could clearly notice the difference in black levels and sharpness/detail. They have a new 6050 for $4k and new NX5 for $5.5k. Worth the price difference? That's a personal decision for each to make, but for me — I expect to have the pj I buy now for a long time — I think it is.
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Wow @Chad Belletete , that is a nice projector, enjoy!! I have an older JVC, and love it in my room.
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I've had the NX-5 and 790 in my room. I'll send you a PM on my thoughts.

Opps. Just saw you last post about your purchase. I can't believe I missed that. Congrats!

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Thanks, all. I think I've decided on the NX5. I was able to go to Best Buy yesterday and compare the NX5 and Epson 6050. (They didn't have an Epson 5050 or JVC 790.)

I could clearly notice the difference in black levels and sharpness/detail. They have a new 6050 for $4k and new NX5 for $5.5k. Worth the price difference? That's a personal decision for each to make, but for me — I expect to have the pj I buy now for a long time — I think it is.

I'd contact Mike Garrett or Craig Peer at AV Science (they're both on this forum) and see what they could do. I bet they can significantly beat Best Buy's price. They sell JVC and Epson. They also sell Dreamscreen (though I'm not sure about DIY fabric).
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I'd contact Mike Garrett or Craig Peer at AV Science (they're both on this forum) and see what they could do. I bet they can significantly beat Best Buy's price. They sell JVC and Epson. They also sell Dreamscreen (though I'm not sure about DIY fabric).
DreamScreen V6 is a much better product than Spandex. Be sure and see my post (6) above regarding sharpness with Spandex.
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DreamScreen V6 is a much better product than Spandex. Be sure and see my post (6) above regarding sharpness with Spandex.

Not to get this off subject, but for my own information, do you sell DIY Dreamscreen V6 fabric? Right now I have a Silver Ticket AT screen but could replace it one day and would probably just use the same frame if I could.

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I've had the NX-5 and 790 in my room. I'll send you a PM on my thoughts.
hey, @deewan , still interested in your thoughts as I haven't purchased yet. You can PM me but I can't PM back yet until I have 15 posts. Forum rules I suppose.
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Thanks, all. I think I've decided on the NX5. I was able to go to Best Buy yesterday and compare the NX5 and Epson 6050. (They didn't have an Epson 5050 or JVC 790.)

I could clearly notice the difference in black levels and sharpness/detail. They have a new 6050 for $4k and new NX5 for $5.5k. Worth the price difference? That's a personal decision for each to make, but for me — I expect to have the pj I buy now for a long time — I think it is.
"I expect to have the pj I buy now for a long time". I'm sure many forum members are smiling at that statement and saying to themselves "yeah, right". Don't get me wrong, Chad. You are looking at some outstanding projectors, but the technology continues to change and evolve. I own an x790; bought it at the end of 2017 and am very happy with it. It's my 3rd JVC projector since 2011 and each upgrade was a noticeable improvement over the previous version. I suspect I'll replace my x790 in another year or two. It's not "just" that the performance keeps getting better. The prices are coming down. I thought I'd reached nirvana years ago when I purchased a Sim 2. It was a 720p projector, had amazing color, and cost over $10K. My x790 blows it away, as did each of the previous JVC's I bought. Welcome to the Club. I hope you get as much enjoyment out of your projector as most members of this forum, Just don't assume you won't replace your NX5 for a "long time"

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Not to get this off subject, but for my own information, do you sell DIY Dreamscreen V6 fabric? Right now I have a Silver Ticket AT screen but could replace it one day and would probably just use the same frame if I could.
Hey @Mocs123 how do you like the Silver Ticket AT screen? This is what I have picked out right now (158" 2.35:1). I'm only slightly tempted to research building... but 'm not exactly a carpenter and I do like the simplicity of getting an off the shelf screen (I had a 120" 16:9 Silver Ticket previously).
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"I expect to have the pj I buy now for a long time". I'm sure many forum members are smiling at that statement and saying to themselves "yeah, right"... Just don't assume you won't replace your NX5 for a "long time"
Haha I get it. I'm thinking 5+ years. Budget-wise, I couldn't justify spending the same $$ on an upgrade before then. Plus there are lots of other "toys" on the wish list. However, I know you can never say never!
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Haha I get it. I'm thinking 5+ years. Budget-wise, I couldn't justify spending the same $$ on an upgrade before then. Plus there are lots of other "toys" on the wish list. However, I know you can never say never!
Many members of this forum have had "the bug" (no, not that one!) for a long time. 5 years isn't unreasonable. You can certainly extend the life of a projector by replacing the bulb. But be careful how often you visit this forum. There's always a lively discussion about the next big thing.
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Thanks, all. I think I've decided on the NX5. I was able to go to Best Buy yesterday and compare the NX5 and Epson 6050. (They didn't have an Epson 5050 or JVC 790.)

I could clearly notice the difference in black levels and sharpness/detail. They have a new 6050 for $4k and new NX5 for $5.5k. Worth the price difference? That's a personal decision for each to make, but for me — I expect to have the pj I buy now for a long time — I think it is.
There would be little difference between the 6050 and 5050 quality wise but it’s $1K less so you are really looking at $3K vs $5.5k, just remember this when comparing. No doubt about it the NX5 is the better machine and if you intend to use it a lot then the JVC is the one to have but if not 2.5K goes a long way to sort a lot of other parts of your home cinema. For example for the price of the NX5 I bought the Epson, my screen, all my sound system including the amp and both Bluray players...... and with the spare change I bought my three leather recliners and fully treated the walls and ceiling with velour.
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DreamScreen is available fabric alone and complete screens.
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Thanks, all. I think I've decided on the NX5. I was able to go to Best Buy yesterday and compare the NX5 and Epson 6050. (They didn't have an Epson 5050 or JVC 790.)

I could clearly notice the difference in black levels and sharpness/detail. They have a new 6050 for $4k and new NX5 for $5.5k. Worth the price difference? That's a personal decision for each to make, but for me — I expect to have the pj I buy now for a long time — I think it is.
The NX5 hands down would be my choice based on your options. The natural look of a native 4K DILA panel paired with dynamic tone mapping and very good blacks makes this an easy choice to me. It's A LOT of good stuff for the money.
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Hey @Mocs123 how do you like the Silver Ticket AT screen? This is what I have picked out right now (158" 2.35:1). I'm only slightly tempted to research building... but 'm not exactly a carpenter and I do like the simplicity of getting an off the shelf screen (I had a 120" 16:9 Silver Ticket previously).

My problem is I really don't have anything to compare it to as it's the only AT screen I've ever had in a system. It was well built and designed, the weave is pretty dense - I can't see any voids unless I get pretty darn close to the screen. It does have a hint of an off-white tint to it - it sort of looks like a white screen that's been in a smokers house (but I don't smoke). I'm sure that's not much help to you. I bought it because I was on a tight budget. If I were to do it over I'd probably do some sort of DIY screen from the beginning as I think I could do that even cheaper then the Silver Ticket and perhaps get a better screen anyways. Someday I probably ought to get a sample of the Dreamscreen V6 and the SeymourAV Center Stage XF and XD materials and see how they compare to the Silver Ticket (and each other).



I was originally going to go with the 158" screen but I was afraid I wouldn't have the light output so I went with the 142", but the the three projectors you're looking at may have a little more light output then my RS500. My room is 21x16x8 and I have Peppercorn walls and a Tricorn Black ceiling.
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... If I were to do it over I'd probably do some sort of DIY screen from the beginning as I think I could do that even cheaper then the Silver Ticket and perhaps get a better screen anyways. Someday I probably ought to get a sample of the Dreamscreen V6 and the SeymourAV Center Stage XF and XD materials and see how they compare to the Silver Ticket (and each other).

I was originally going to go with the 158" screen but I was afraid I wouldn't have the light output so I went with the 142", but the the three projectors you're looking at may have a little more light output then my RS500. My room is 21x16x8 and I have Peppercorn walls and a Tricorn Black ceiling.
Oh man we are very similar. Mine is 24x16x9 with Peppercorn walls/ceiling. I think I may actually look into building a screen now. Was literally just looking into Seymour and Dreamscreen V6. Seems like the Seymour isn't that bad $$ per foot wise. Not finding any Dreamscreen V6 pricing in US$ (yet). The hunt/research is just beginning on this. Thanks!
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I haven't seen any pricing on Dreamscreen V6 material either - and I think AV Science may be the exclusive distributor in the US. It seems to get excellent reviews and I'd be interested in the cost per foot myself. SeymourAV material gets good reviews too and I agree it is pretty affordable. If there is anything I can do please let me know.



BTW: I just noticed we're not too far away - I'm in Chattanooga.

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Oh man we are very similar. Mine is 24x16x9 with Peppercorn walls/ceiling. I think I may actually look into building a screen now. Was literally just looking into Seymour and Dreamscreen V6. Seems like the Seymour isn't that bad $$ per foot wise. Not finding any Dreamscreen V6 pricing in US$ (yet). The hunt/research is just beginning on this. Thanks!
You are fairly close to me also. I am 1.5 hours north of you. My daughter lives in Nashville.
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Yep @Mocs123 I figured as much from the profile name and pic I'm south of Nashville in Franklin.

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