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Does anyone really believe that were it available and reasonably priced, the majority of OLED owners wouldn’t choose a 120” model?

Just this week, I set up my moth balled 65” OLED as a dedicated gaming system while my young adult grandchildren are visiting for 10 days. They have the ability to sit as close as they want, so the relative seating distance is addressed.

Result? They’re begging me to let them play PS4 on the 120” projector screen.


That is quite fun/crazy because gaming on a projector is what got me a bit frustrated and made me turn to an OLED 77''.

I feel films which aren't dark translate very well to projection, extraordinarily well, especially SDR. But games really look a bit 'off' on a projector. I don't know what it is but they don't look as sharp, the colours really don't pop as much, they lack depth... Its strange.

For example RDR2 on 100'' projected image from epson 6050ub looked.. meh. but on the panasonic 902b 65'' or LG OLED 65''C9, it looked stunning.

However the level of immersion was obviously not close to the projected image.. but the projected image looked... wrong.. to the extent I kind of couldn't play it.




I think if you have an analytical mind always chasing perfection.. then you need an OLED + projector.
If you can just sit back, relax and enjoy what is infront of u rather than worrying what is the next best thing, a projector alone is so hard to beat because it is truly a spectacle and a feast for the eyes.


Also room size makes a big difference. If you have a gigantic room, a projector is the ONLY way to go. My home cinema room is quite small (but I still have both ).

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The days of projectors are gone... into the niche. Long live the OLED... I HOPE we can start seeing some reasonably priced units in the 80-90-100 inch range in the future.
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For my part, the blatant attacks on me with links to youtube videos calling me a dumb chimp were deleted so you can't see them. That is who I was responding to in that post, but I agree with you, especially on niche custom huge home theaters (and not the 99% of people who are dealing with 15' rooms) with $50,000 laser projectors (at least for now). I've messages Mark about other that stuff now.

Lets have this out though. Lets get someone to do a review of a 77" LG OLED with seating at 7 feet vs a say $30,000 projector to a 120" screen sitting at 15' and see which is better. Same theater, just move the seats. Data speaks louder then anything. Im perfectly happy having rational discussions and being proved wrong which is the scientific method.
Sorry, but you're the one that stated your opinion as fact, and belittled my opinion. I'm not attacking you, but maybe feeling attacked by by you. I prefer the more cinematic presentation of a projector to that of an over pumped TV. I also prefer the larger screen presentation, and no, I don't feel sitting closer to a smaller screen gives the same immersive experience. Our eyes tell our brains the focal distance, and we feel that in our perception of the image. Also, are we viewing solo, or with company? A big screen makes an even bigger difference when we're not alone. Just my opinion, and some of the reasons I'll be sticking with a Projector and screen...

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=/ I find pixel level imperfections to be quite noticeable even at resolution resolved distances. The same way screen imperfections affect pixel uniformity. Between 1080p and 4k, I would put more weight on misconvergence + chromatic aberration then I would on the actual resolution. Especially when you add in other pixel level performance including high ansi contrast, color contrast of an rgb light source, and pixel response times. Accurate is accurate.

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Did you purposefully cherry pick examples of the worst and then find the best examples you could for DLP? Low blow.

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Sorry, but you're the one that stated your opinion as fact, and belittled my opinion. I'm not attacking you, but maybe feeling attacked by by you. I prefer the more cinematic presentation of a projector to that of an over pumped TV. I also prefer the larger screen presentation, and no, I don't feel sitting closer to a smaller screen gives the same immersive experience. Our eyes tell our brains the focal distance, and we feel that in our perception of the image. Also, are we viewing solo, or with company? A big screen makes an even bigger difference when we're not alone. Just my opinion, and some of the reasons I'll be sticking with a Projector and screen...
The video I posted was meant tongue in cheek and not to be offensive. If you watch the video, it describes how humans gaining ability for language wasn't without cost. Many animals who are similar to us, including chimps, orangoutangs, and gorillas, have much better memory, and their reasoning skills in certain areas rival ours.

So it was a statement of some people with their language acquisition has hindered their ability to think properly in areas that showed tact. Yeah, mine wasn't completely tactful either. But that's something all animals, not only chimps or humans have. We tend to lash out and make an issue worse.

For that I apologize. Otherwise, the OP was only asking for trouble, and from everyone else, he got what he deserved.

Like I said, if he wanted to get a reasonable response, he could've posted this in the OLED forum. So why else did he choose to post this here unless conflict was what he was after?
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That is quite fun/crazy because gaming on a projector is what got me a bit frustrated and made me turn to an OLED 77''.

I feel films which aren't dark translate very well to projection, extraordinarily well, especially SDR. But games really look a bit 'off' on a projector. I don't know what it is but they don't look as sharp, the colours really don't pop as much, they lack depth... Its strange.

For example RDR2 on 100'' projected image from epson 6050ub looked.. meh. but on the panasonic 902b 65'' or LG OLED 65''C9, it looked stunning.

However the level of immersion was obviously not close to the projected image.. but the projected image looked... wrong.. to the extent I kind of couldn't play it.




I think if you have an analytical mind always chasing perfection.. then you need an OLED + projector.
If you can just sit back, relax and enjoy what is infront of u rather than worrying what is the next best thing, a projector alone is so hard to beat because it is truly a spectacle and a feast for the eyes.


Also room size makes a big difference. If you have a gigantic room, a projector is the ONLY way to go. My home cinema room is quite small (but I still have both ).
Input lag tends to be worse on projectors. On my JVC NX7, it finally improved enough to be tolerable. It’s the first thing we noticed when we dusted off the OLED (decreased input lag).

So, would you have a bigger OLED if it was reasonable and available? It’s a trade off, for sure. But my family has been adamant about their preference, hence the virtually unused OLED. And that includes two Engineers (perfectionists).
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Did you purposefully cherry pick examples of the worst and then find the best examples you could for DLP? Low blow. 3chip LCOS can be VERY sharp.
No not at all, just the first pixel grid or convergence patterns I could find. It's not mean to diminish lcos, just to demonstrate that an array of factors affect detail/sharpness over just resolution. All things considered the same, it's very difficult to remove all chromatic aberration, which will compound with any misconvergence. In that first picture, there's color fringing on pretty much every edge. With single chip dlp, a high quality lens, and no use of lens shift, color fringing can be entirely absent.

In 0-1% ADL scenes, a JVC will appear sharper due to the higher contrast, even if a lower ansi contrast does affect pixel to pixel contrast. But in 8% ADL scenes will look much flatter. Sharpness in this aspect being a function of high frequency information vs low frequency.

I think D-ILA is some of the best performing liquid crystal modulation available. For liquid crystal it has an excellent response time with overshoot compensation. But there's just no comparison in terms of video rendering vs DLP, and it's good to be able to quantify those differences. A static image is one thing, but it's different once pixels are in a constant state of change.
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Input lag tends to be worse on projectors. On my JVC NX7, it finally improved enough to be tolerable. It’s the first thing we noticed when we dusted off the OLED (decreased input lag).

So, would you have a bigger OLED if it was reasonable and available? It’s a trade off, for sure. But my family has been adamant about their preference, hence the virtually unused OLED. And that includes two Engineers (perfectionists).


I don't think I've ever said 77 inches is the dream image size. It is not. I'd rather have a 100 inch OLED. Sadly I cannot afford the next size up OLED without causing some significant damage to my bank balance but 77'' OLED is within the budget.

I think a 65'' OLED at 2.5ish metres is too tiny. I think 77 inches is tolerable to a cinematic experience (not ideal, just tolerable). Similar to how the projectors are only tolerable to me when it comes to black level, HDR performance, gsync, 120hz, HDR pixel level control and specular highlight detail etc.
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hahah you are trying to argue with the wrong person as I have a projector and an OLED (and a FALD TV).

I still have my 100 inch 16:9 projector screen

As I said Mike, its not a competition. Both devices have a clear role to play. I enjoy both projection and OLEDs and own both.

For fun movie watching, I will watch on a projector

For serious movie watching, I will still turn to an OLED because if gives reference quality blacks, specular highlight detail, true HDR performance, pixel perfect quality. However, the seating has to be adjusted to be closer to the screen hahaha.



Sadly HDR for me has ruined projection. SDR I really like projectors but HDR, I feel like I am missing out on a lot. When I had my Epson 6050UB, I loved it but I always knew I was getting a very subpar gimped HDR experience, even in films. HDR adds another dimension lost in projection, such as in the show Kingdom when they have bright lamps on a pitch black background or stars on a night sky which look... very meh on a projector.

Maybe JVC N9 in a treated pitch black room could make it look nicer..


I will do a thorough review of my 77'' OLED vs Projector once my home theater room is properly setup as I am quite blunt with technology and will always try to remove any bias.
Different people with difference opinions, I would only watch a movie on the OLED for funny but for serious movie watching it’s always the projector.

Don’t get me wrong the OLED throws a better image but it’s a glossy image due to the material it’s viewed through.

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Different people with difference opinions, I would only watch a movie on the OLED for funny but for serious movie watching it’s always the projector.

Don’t get me wrong the OLED throws a better image but it’s a glossy image due to the material it’s viewed through.


I don't notice the gloss on the 65'' in the lounge when its dark but you could be right. There is something so nice about a PJ on a screen.. just feels classy and reminiscent of the theatre.

We'll see when I've set up the 77'' what my findings are . Its only 77'' vs 95-100'' image. I just am not sure if we are working in the 90''-100'' projector range, it is worth the compromise compared to a 77'' OLED or 85'' Sony LCD.

I think for those that have 120+ inch screens, its a bit more simple... PJ wins if you need/can accomdate that size.

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I don't notice the gloss on the 65'' in the lounge when its dark but you could be right. There is something so nice about a PJ on a screen.. just feels classy and reminiscent of the theatre.

We'll see when I've set up the 77'' what my findings are . Its only 77'' vs 95-100'' image. I just am not sure if we are working in the 90''-100'' projector range, it is worth the compromise compared to a 77'' OLED or 85'' Sony LCD.

I think for those that have 120+ inch screens, its a bit more simple... PJ wins if you need/can accomdate that size.
You are UK like me and over here we generally don't have the same space (basements) that or US members have so screen sizes seldom get beyond 120" over here, but by the same token rooms generally can't accommodate TV sizes beyond 65" easily.

There's something magical about being able to roll a screen down and project a huge image and then roll it away again when not in use which is why in more family room applications a projector/screen option will always win hands down in my book. A TV's position is set in stone and can become an over bearing object in a family room when size increases, with a projector it can be done so subtlety that to the untrained eye they wouldn't even know it was there.

Of course dedicated rooms are a different matter where anything goes, I am sure if someone came out with a 100" OLED sub £6K I think even I might consider it but I don't think this will happen any time soon and probably not at sub £6K.

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77" is still way too small, that's a 73" scope screen.
The blacks are better on an oLED and the image is glossier and sharper, but it's still not worth losing that much size for giant scope movies.

Projector will never look as good as oLED because it lacks the special gloss coating they put over the TV. IMO, that gloss coating causes eye fatigue faster.

88" LG oLED costs $30,000, that's $25,000 for the next 11" over 77".
So that's about $2,000 per inch, at that rate this isn't happening anytime soon.
Good data points

I think the panel vs projector debate has been raging several years now. Given the variety of display tech, screen sizes, lumens and price points available for both panels and pj's now and moving forwards, there is room for both to coexist.

Both have their use cases- for large screen outdoor use and portability, the goto solution are the Epson 1060's/3000 series of the world. For routine daily viewing, can't beat the TCL's/Hisense LEDs with zone dimming, and for small room close seating best in class viewing, the OLEDs do the trick. For 8ft wide or larger, can't currently beat the size/cost/image proposition of projection

But for replicating the commercial viewing experience we grew up with, nothing can touch an 8ft wide min image, preferably wider. I'm using a basic Elite Screens electric 4x3 8ft wide screen, setting the bottom for 16x9 or 2.4:1 via programmed remote and top black mask and throwing an image from a JVC NX7, and wouldn't trade for anything smaller. I sit ~8ft from the 8ft wide screen. I am planning to go 10ft wide over the next year, and could do 12ft wide in my dedicated 100% light controlled theater.

Inches? We don't need no stinkin' inches- we add FEET at a time

There is something about sitting further back from a larger image, in absolute metrics, that lends to the immersive feel. While technically the field of view (FOV- simple angle the screen width makes with your eye where you sit) can be the same with a smaller screen if you sit closer, there is *something* about the absolute size of a screen and room volume that makes a real difference to immersion vs simple FOV.

Maybe someone with expertise in optics/vision/perception can elaborate, but I'm convinced there is something more to the "immersive feeling" than FOV, based on absolute image size and/or view distance and/or some other ratio.
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hahah you are trying to argue with the wrong person as I have a projector and an OLED (and a FALD TV).

I still have my 100 inch 16:9 projector screen

As I said Mike, its not a competition. Both devices have a clear role to play. I enjoy both projection and OLEDs and own both.

For fun movie watching, I will watch on a projector

For serious movie watching, I will still turn to an OLED because if gives reference quality blacks, specular highlight detail, true HDR performance, pixel perfect quality. However, the seating has to be adjusted to be closer to the screen hahaha.



Sadly HDR for me has ruined projection. SDR I really like projectors but HDR, I feel like I am missing out on a lot. When I had my Epson 6050UB, I loved it but I always knew I was getting a very subpar gimped HDR experience, even in films. HDR adds another dimension lost in projection, such as in the show Kingdom when they have bright lamps on a pitch black background or stars on a night sky which look... very meh on a projector.

Maybe JVC N9 in a treated pitch black room could make it look nicer..


I will do a thorough review of my 77'' OLED vs Projector once my home theater room is properly setup as I am quite blunt with technology and will always try to remove any bias.
I was not trying to argue. My point was, when deciding between a 77" TV and a 100" front projection setup, I could see some people picking the smaller TV. But here in the US, people usually run much larger front projector setups. So it really is no contest when choosing between a 77" TV and a much larger front projector setup. That was the only point I was trying to make.

As for your comment on HDR, HDR on a front projector can be better than what an Epson 6050 can provide. Especially on a 100" screen. It will just cost you a lot more money to get there.

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I was not trying to argue. My point was, when deciding between a 77" TV and a 100" front projection setup, I could see some people picking the smaller TV. But here in the US, people usually run much larger front projector setups. So it really is no contest when choosing between a 77" TV and a much larger front projector setup. That was the only point I was trying to make.


I think thats the point I was already making.

In that if 77'' is big enough for you at an appropriate viewing distance.. then PJs are irrelavant.

But if you need bigger due to bigger rooms, then PJs are still superior.

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I think thats the point I was already making.

In that if 77'' is big enough for you at an appropriate viewing distance.. then PJs are irrelavant.

But if you need bigger due to bigger rooms, then PJs are still superior.
But you don't have to have a huge room to get a big image. As I said, my room is 11.5' x 13.5' (3.5m x 4.1m) and I would never consider a 77" TV for my room when I can have a 110" wide scope screen.
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You are UK like me and over here we generally don't have the same space (basements) that or US members have so screen sizes seldom get beyond 120" over here, but by the same token rooms generally can't accommodate TV sizes beyond 65" easily.

There's something magical about being able to roll a screen down and project a huge image and then roll it away again when not in use which is why in more family room applications a projector/screen option will always win hands down in my book. A TV's position is set in stone and can become an over bearing object in a family room when size increases, with a projector it can be done so subtlety that to the untrained eye they wouldn't even know it was there.

Of course dedicated rooms are a different matter where anything goes, I am sure if someone came out with a 100" OLED sub £6K I think even I might consider it but I don't think this will happen any time soon and probably not at sub £6K.
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I think there are still a lot of consumers that easily get blown away when they see a glossy OLED at a big box store and think they gotta have it. I admit, OLED does show an awesome picture, but I can't get that same feeling of watching a movie that I can from my cheapo fauxK projector. I watch movies 90 percent of the time with gaming the majority of the remaining 10 percent, and I couldn't be happier. I think some people are already coming around on the enjoyment of having a projector and 100 inch+ screen and probably a good entry level 5.1 or 7.1 surround set up for less than the cost of OLED. It's probably not a huge group of people, but people like me are willing to put up with some of the negative aspects of projectors (ambient light, non-dedicated space, etc.) just to have a movie theater experience at home. With theaters taking a hit due to Covid-19 along with the cost of taking a family of 4 to a movie night, I don't think projectors are going anywhere.
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I made this comment about 6 months ago and was jumped on but after buying a LG 2020 OLED CX 65" Im gonna ask it again. I recognize Ill be slammed (especially by the vendors who hand around here)

I have a 4K HDR projector in my theater on a 120" screen (Epson) and I find I dont even go down there any more after buying this OLED. Even Netfix shows in 4K HDR and Dolby Vision are simply STUNNING. I've run projectors now for 15 years. Im currently using this OLED as my gaming monitor at 4K and 120 hrz with the eArc out to my Marantz (So I get Dolby Atmos even on Netflix... making my ~100 4K blurays start to seem outdated too)

So as I buy a new house and have a dedicated theater space (18" x 14") that I plan to run 7.2.4 Dolby Atmos in, my plan is to dump a projector purchase and go with a LG 77" OLED (or whatever they have next year at this time when its built). All I gotta do is adjust seating distance and its all the same. With my icons on my second 27" monitor, start menu hidden and black desktop, the LG's black is so perfect that the TV looks like its turned off if I dont have anything on it.

Unless you are buying a $50,000 with a laser, I cant see anything comparing to this LG OLED... not even the best Atmos theaters I've been too.

The days of projectors are gone... into the niche. Long live the OLED... I HOPE we can start seeing some reasonably priced units in the 80-90-100 inch range in the future.
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PJ vs Panel argument in 3 to 5 years

We will probably be having a variation of this discussion in 2 to 5 years. In 2 ,maybe 3 years we might have 95''- 100'' panels; will people give-up on 120 PJ screens. In 5 years, if we are lucky, we might have electro emissive quantum dot 100'' panels; great color gaumet & no need for FALD, high brighness, will that be the death of 120''-140'' PJ screens. And on & on it goes!
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We will probably be having a variation of this discussion in 2 to 5 years. In 2 ,maybe 3 years we might have 95''- 100'' panels; will people give-up on 120 PJ screens. In 5 years, if we are lucky, we might have electro emissive quantum dot 100'' panels; great color gaumet & no need for FALD, high brighness, will that be the death of 120''-140'' PJ screens. And on & on it goes!
I definitely will not give up my AT screen for a 100" TV. Would not even be a close decision.
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Exclamation projectors DEAD?

Dead to who? You? Go sit your sorry ass in front of your lame small screen while I enjoy a true home theater with stadium seating. This is a lame troll post from someone ignorant enough to believe picture quality is everything. What's next on your list? Speakers? Because headphone sound is direct and without reflection. Did cars make walking dead? No, actually that was AMC.

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We will probably be having a variation of this discussion in 2 to 5 years. In 2 ,maybe 3 years we might have 95''- 100'' panels; will people give-up on 120 PJ screens. In 5 years, if we are lucky, we might have electro emissive quantum dot 100'' panels; great color gaumet & no need for FALD, high brighness, will that be the death of 120''-140'' PJ screens. And on & on it goes!
Until televisions are easily transportable in the 120-150 inch range and they are equal in pricing to the screen/projector combination not many projector owners will be come television guys. The projector owners who enjoy the sound coming from behind the screen will never be using a television. Projectors will change but in some form projection has been around in homes since the 1950s. Projectors will never be gone.

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I have an Optoma Cinemax P1 and with an AEON CLR screen, spectacular.

And as for ocular fatigue, you don't suffer from that with a projector because you are watching a reflective image, not like with a TV where you are literally staring at light bulbs.
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I love my OLED for casual watching and it is the pinnacle of Home video at the moment. But, it is not an immersive experience. My JVC RS500 has been wowing in the man cave for 4 years (and this is an old unit). I am looking forward to a laser, UST, JVC or some LCOS type @4000 lm for the best of everything in the future (120 inch, under $6K, wow with lights on (Screen) and Stunning with lights off. It will work in more rooms with a better HDR effect. This will compliment the home theater rooms with the future high lumen laser projectors for better HDR. We all have some large screen growth to look forward to in all areas. Growth will stop when they can make a modular (ship 120 inch in 4 pieces to ship cheaper and get in the house) or roll up OLED like a screen at +100 inches for less than $6k. So, it will be +10:yrs. Enjoy!
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My prediction is that a majority of people who want larger screens will go for ultra short throw projectors with light rejecting screens. Some products can already offer 120" images and with laser lights they may be able to go larger still. I think many people like that the projector can just be set on the entertainment unit as opposed to being ceiling mounted. Given that Epson still sells millions of office projectors and JVC can barely keep up with the demand for its projectors i don't think it will be dying any time soon....'course I would have said the same about Oppo so who knows.
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I made this comment about 6 months ago and was jumped on but after buying a LG 2020 OLED CX 65" Im gonna ask it again. I recognize Ill be slammed (especially by the vendors who hand around here)

I have a 4K HDR projector in my theater on a 120" screen (Epson) and I find I dont even go down there any more after buying this OLED. Even Netfix shows in 4K HDR and Dolby Vision are simply STUNNING. I've run projectors now for 15 years. Im currently using this OLED as my gaming monitor at 4K and 120 hrz with the eArc out to my Marantz (So I get Dolby Atmos even on Netflix... making my ~100 4K blurays start to seem outdated too)

So as I buy a new house and have a dedicated theater space (18" x 14") that I plan to run 7.2.4 Dolby Atmos in, my plan is to dump a projector purchase and go with a LG 77" OLED (or whatever they have next year at this time when its built). All I gotta do is adjust seating distance and its all the same. With my icons on my second 27" monitor, start menu hidden and black desktop, the LG's black is so perfect that the TV looks like its turned off if I dont have anything on it.

Unless you are buying a $50,000 with a laser, I cant see anything comparing to this LG OLED... not even the best Atmos theaters I've been too.

The days of projectors are gone... into the niche. Long live the OLED... I HOPE we can start seeing some reasonably priced units in the 80-90-100 inch range in the future.
i WILL LET YOU PASS BECAUSE YOU ARE A RUSH FAN! ;-) I have both...I have an OLED right behind my 12 ft screen. When it comes to watching movies I choose....the 12ft screen. If you can get an OLED to at least 120 inches they yes. The OLED just can't pull off the immersive experience like a projector. Also, when you have a great sound system that shakes the neighbor's house the tiny OLED does not complete the illusion of being in outer space, or other BIG images that appear on screen. Huge picture and huge sound. RIP Neil Peart brother!
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But you don't have to have a huge room to get a big image. As I said, my room is 11.5' x 13.5' (3.5m x 4.1m) and I would never consider a 77" TV for my room when I can have a 110" wide scope screen.
Geez, your room is smaller than mine. I can't see having a projector in my room.

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You can also get a voice/app light switch.

Also, if you want to watch projectors in brighter situations, you can get an Ultra Short Throw projector with an ALR screen.
We use an Optoma P1 UST projector with a 120" ALR screen as our everyday TV. Love it.
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Dead to who? You? Go sit your sorry ass in front of your lame small screen while I enjoy a true home theater with stadium seating. This is a lame troll post from someone ignorant enough to believe picture quality is everything. What's next on your list? Speakers? Because headphone sound is direct and without reflection. Did cars make walking dead? No, actually that was AMC.
Projectors for HT are soon to be dead. Not because a 77" flat screen is better.

It will be dead because the number of customers that are buying them are getting smaller and smaller. More and more people are satisfied enough their big flat screens and will not therefore buy a projector. The market will get smaller.

I agree for us die-hard fans that will not work, but we are getting fewer and fewer, and it will get to a point it is to small for the home theater projectors makers. Will it be next year or in 5 years? We will see.

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