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It's almost two and a half years until the US/Canadian repack is scheduled to be completed so let's not get too far ahead of ourselves.

Existing antennas will still work exactly as they did before the repack, they just won't be the "optimum fit" for the reduced frequency range. Pretty much the same situation as antennas currently on the market that were never re-scaled after the 2009 spectrum reduction still continue to sell and work.

FWIW, I have yet to come across a single one of our customers whose reception problems were definitively determined to be due to LTE interference and whose issues were resolved by installing an appropriate filter. I am on the look-out, though.

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It's almost two and a half years until the US/Canadian repack is scheduled to be completed so let's not get too far ahead of ourselves.

Existing antennas will still work exactly as they did before the repack, they just won't be the "optimum fit" for the reduced frequency range. Pretty much the same situation as antennas currently on the market that were never re-scaled after the 2009 spectrum reduction still continue to sell and work.

FWIW, I have yet to come across a single one of our customers whose reception problems were definitively determined to be due to LTE interference and whose issues were resolved by installing an appropriate filter. I am on the look-out, though.
That's one way to look at it. From the point of view of a customer who is installing equipment any time over the next 2-1/2 years, they would likely want to use their time and money efficiently by installing the most appropriate configuration for the future. It is expected that your perspective as a vendor and mine as a customer aren't always going to align. If I were buying an antenna today, I would import an XB16A. When I put up my current setup before repack became a thing, I used your antennae as shown in my sig.

I agree that LTE interference is only likely to be an issue in the most extreme cases, like having a cell tower 50 yards from your UHF antenna.

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I found a filter necessary to preserve WJAR and WLNE. But only because I have a complex system of preamps followed by notch and LTE filters distribution amps splitters, channel and band combiners and one last distribution amp. The LTE filters have a Radio Shack part number and as shown above are after the first preamp. Here is my TVFool with a few channels missing. http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...9038a6d424969d
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Looking toward future requirements is fine, it's just premature at this point (March of '18). It looks like the Bay area and Sacramento are both scheduled for repack phases 8 & 9 - Jan - May of 2020. You've got two years before your area changes.

It costs us a LOT of money to re-engineer an antenna and to re-work the manufacturing, distribution, marketing, and everything that follows. Given how few Yagi antennas we sell these days compared to everything else (about 0.2% of our gross unit sales last calendar year ), it's my personal opinion that it isn't worth the expense from a financial standpoint. Such a decision is above my pay grade anyway.


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It's general practice to put filters in front of any amps so they can remove offending frequencies before IMD has a chance to occur. Post amplification, it's too often too late handle the issue effectively. BTW, the R-S LTE filters disappeared whe R-S filed for their first bankruptcy. I have seen them on ebay off and on since then.
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FWIW, I have yet to come across a single one of our customers whose reception problems were definitively determined to be due to LTE interference and whose issues were resolved by installing an appropriate filter. I am on the look-out, though.
It's probably a pretty rare situation. One way it could come about is:

  • You're trying to receive stations that are weak/distant enough that you need a high-gain preamp (say, 50 miles from the nearest antenna farm)
  • Yet, you're close to a major highway, and thus have a cell tower very nearby

That could happen if you live in a small town along a major highway. In that situation, the nearby cell tower could overload your tuners (once the preamp has boosted their signals even more), causing IM distortion that reaches down into the UHF broadcast band.

Another unusual case could occur if you're trying to insert your own UHF channels above RF 51 for, say, home video distribution. You would need an LTE filter to get a clean signal on the inserted channels. (Also helps ensure your inserted channels don't get radiated from your antenna! )
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It costs us a LOT of money to re-engineer an antenna and to re-work the manufacturing, distribution, marketing, and everything that follows. Given how few Yagi antennas we sell these days compared to everything else (about 0.2% of our gross unit sales last calendar year ), it's my personal opinion that it isn't worth the expense from a financial standpoint. Such a decision is above my pay grade anyway.
Like I said, what makes sense for Antennas Direct and what makes sense for a particular customer are not the same thing. It was just a thought, and you've explained it is unlikely to happen. Those of us looking for that particular Yagi performance post-repack may be ordering overseas.

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Given how few Yagi antennas we sell these days compared to everything else (about 0.2% of our gross unit sales last calendar year ) . . .
That's interesting, I wouldn't have guessed. Perhaps the bowtie antennae are "prettier", certainly they do work in most situations. I started out with a bowtie as my first try also. But when you need a Yagi, nothing else will do.

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Another unusual case could occur if you're trying to insert your own UHF channels above RF 51 for, say, home video distribution.
Surely this makes the most sense to do over Ethernet, maybe that is why you call it unusual. I can't imagine using coax in-home for digital video, modulation/demodulation would add extra hardware.

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Ethernet does make the most sense if you're starting from scratch. But if you have any "legacy" equipment such as old CRT TVs, especially if they're so ancient they only have RF inputs, then you could throw in a nice analog RF modulator with BTSC stereo for much less than the cost to replace them with modern DLNA-compatible TVs, rewire your home for Ethernet, buy HDHRs, etc. And if the content source is SD anyhow, you haven't even lost anything!
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AdTech, I am aware of the reason for putting the filters before any amplifiers and I would have done so if necessary. I started having trouble with channels 49 and 50 a couple of years ago and saw the LTE signals on an old HP spectrum analyzer. I tried the filter where the cable came into the house and saw an huge drop in the LTE signal with the TV signals looking untouched. The signal quality also saw a large improvement. I also run the signal through channel 17 and 26 deletion filters at the same point. Originally these filters were before the preamp on top of the tower. When I moved them inside I got a small signal quality improvement on most channels. It seems that my signals are so weak that the filter loss before the filter is detrimental and the preamps can handle the large extraneous signals without overloading.
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Repack Funds and First Responders – What Broadcasters Need to Know About the ‘Omnibus’ Spending Bill of 2018

That's quite a U-turn of the policy:

  • The bill specifies that $150 million of the total shall be used to pay reimbursement costs incurred by low-power TV station and translator stations displaced by the repack.
  • Another $50 million is specified for FM stations which will incur costs due to collocated TV stations transitioning to their post-auction channels.
  • Finally, the bill sets aside $50 million help educate consumers during the transition process.
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Amazing.

Educate consumers how the Wireless Industry is screwing TV viewers AGAIN or should I say 'still' !

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Recording free OTA TV for 'time shifting' has been here since 1975. Will there be DVR's to do the same when ATSC3 obsoletes existing DVR's??
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Amazing.

Educate consumers how the Wireless Industry is screwing TV viewers AGAIN or should I say 'still' !
If you look at some "Form 399" the amounts to create the announcements seem outrageous. The stations that have signed off here in S.F. Bay area may have made the required announcements for 30 days, but they are very hard to catch. 3 Minutes of a crawl at he bottom of the screen at 3 AM meets the requirement.

Or some thing similar.

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The CBS affiliate here has already started with eh 'crawls' here. It is the only station that is doing a major xmitter location move which will have a whole bunch of viewers well south of the city up in arms unless they have a plan for a translator to makeup for the reception loss (which I'm not aware of).

The Canadians north of Toronto will probably love the move though.

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If you look at some "Form 399" the amounts to create the announcements seem outrageous. The stations that have signed off here in S.F. Bay area may have made the required announcements for 30 days, but they are very hard to catch. 3 Minutes of a crawl at he bottom of the screen at 3 AM meets the requirement.

Or some thing similar.

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That may explain why I never saw an announcement from KATA/50 in the month before they went off the air: they may have just run the announcements when no one would have been watching.
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That may explain why I never saw an announcement from KATA/50 in the month before they went off the air: they may have just run the announcements when no one would have been watching.
The 900# PBS gorilla KQED Inc. here is acting like they still have a transmitter for San Jose when in fact they do not, the virtual channels look the same to viewers even though they are on the same transmitter in San Francisco. Just a rescan needed.

But then they are no longer on their Analog NTSC channels 9 and 54. Something some viewers are still not aware of.

I spotted "KQED" on the top of a building in a fuzzy night time weather shot on another station. It turns out that the current PBS KTEH crew moved to a tall building in downtown San Jose. That's another Story, actually leaving Story Road in San Jose.

The announcements are so short in number and length is part of Congress's plan to not get blamed (Lose a election) for the DTV Repack. The poor announcements were dictated by Congress, don't blame the FCC.

Me.TV is no longer in this market, the owner purchased two DTV stations, one before the auction started, one after. The channel sharing date's keep being pushed forward in time, what is holding the takeover I do not understand. WKRP starts Monday and I will not be able to get it.

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Responding to videobruce's tagline:
"Recording free OTA TV for 'time shifting' has been here since 1977. Will there be DVR's to do the same when ATSC3 obsoletes existing DVR's?"

How many OTA DVRs are there now? Not counting computer-based ones that are too complicated for many people to set up. There's TiVo, with its very expensive guide service, and Channel Master. What else? Early on, LG and Sony each made a DVR but they never followed up with later models.

What concerns me more is that I've read that ATSC3 will allow for encryption. If stations routinely implement that, probably with DRM added, DVRs, especially computer-based ones, will be as difficult to make and maintain as they are for cable now, and it just won't be worth the bother. It will be the last nail in the coffin of the concept that the airwaves belong to the public.
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What concerns me more is that I've read that ATSC3 will allow for encryption.
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That may have the same disuse as the broadcast flag which was never turned on.

There is no reason to fear encryption, it is allowed on ATSC 1.0 now. The pay model just never caught on, maybe it will in the future, but then it may not.

I am hoping that Silicon Dust will create an ATSC 3.0 network tuner very similar to the two I have allowing me to use the save capture software as I am now using.

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> There is no reason to fear encryption, it is allowed on ATSC 1.0 now.

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program 8vsb:42-1 42.1 KPXG-LD encrypted filter="0x0000 0x0030 0x0031 0x0034 0x0035"

program 8vsb:49-5 37.2 Azteca encrypted filter="0x0000 0x0050 0x0051 0x0054"
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The HDHR can report "encrypted" sometimes if the signal is weak even when it's not actually encrypted.

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IIRC Showtime broadcasted encrypted on a UHF OTA pay channel in Chicagoland in the very early 80's.

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Looks like some of the LPTV applications have been filed with the FCC.

The news isn't good for me. I'll be losing at least three stations, as they need DA's to avoid interference with other stations in my general area.
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IIRC Showtime broadcasted encrypted on a UHF OTA pay channel in Chicagoland in the very early 80's.
Sometime about then there was a station in the San Francisco Bay area that transmitted Soft Porn. Without paying for the decoder you had no sound but you could almost make out what was happening and got a stable picture for about a second ever so often.

A friend connected his personal home test equipment together and got a stable signal and thought about producing a board which would have been a huge undertaking for a at home project. Today there is a least one person on a Facebook thread I follow who could whip up a schematic, do a board layout and order the board samples and get them in about a week. I think back to when I produced a few boards about that time with great effort.

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.......you had no sound but you could almost make out what was happening and got a stable picture for about a second every so often......

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Sounds like you might have spent quite a bit of time analyzing the situation!
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How many OTA DVRs are there now? Not counting computer-based ones that are too complicated for many people to set up. There's TiVo, with its very expensive guide service, and Channel Master. What else? Early on, LG and Sony each made a DVR but they never followed up with later models.

What concerns me more is that I've read that ATSC3 will allow for encryption. If stations routinely implement that, probably with DRM added, DVRs, especially computer-based ones, will be as difficult to make and maintain as they are for cable now, and it just won't be worth the bother. It will be the last nail in the coffin of the concept that the airwaves belong to the public.
What has killed the DVR concept is this Internet Streaming. I get the concept, but the question is; at what cost?

Perfect for the typical post teenager who is lazy and considers it an effort to push more than one or two buttons on his toy phone. Even a simple DVR requires too much effort. And forget it, if includes erecting a real, rooftop antenna.

Planned obsolescence that too many here seem to accept with a fight of some kind or taking a stand!
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Sounds like you might have spent quite a bit of time analyzing the situation!

It was not good use of time if you wanted Soft Porn.

It was not me but a friend who "spent quite a bit of time analyzing the situation". He put himself through University fixing NTSC TVs. He adjusted my Heath Kit to have as good a picture that it could, but it quickly needed adjusting again. Lost cause. (If you want it, it is in my garage.)

I told him about having a newer TV in the shop and that they wanted to replace the biggest part. He said "Get that TV out of that Shop and bring it over to him".

It was ~ 7 PM when I got there and by 6 AM we had decided that the module the TV shop wanted to replace had nothing to do with the failure and all that was wrong was a blown fuse in a different module.

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Hi, I am concerned about my cable TV channels. I do not have any idea about how many channels will go off air in Georgia as result of this auction. Currently, I am using Charter Spectrum Cable TV service at my home. Could anybody please share the information about channel sharing?
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Cable TV channels and service are not part of this repack process (including channel sharing). This is related only to over the air broadcasting.

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I don't think the auction will affect cable service in any noticeable way. Folks who receive TV via an antenna will see many changes, but the only way I see cable being affected is if a station went off the air completely. This might happen to a few low-power stations in the Atlanta area (RabbitEars.info lists WQJY, WTHC, WIGL, W29DN, and WAGC as possibilities), but those stations probably aren't carried on cable to begin with.
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I don't think the auction will affect cable service in any noticeable way. Folks who receive TV via an antenna will see many changes, but the only way I see cable being affected is if a station went off the air completely.
Cable might be affected if one station shares with another, lower-powered station and thus loses full-market OTA coverage. In the Boston market, when WMFP starts sharing with WWDP, cable systems in the northern suburbs and New Hampshire could drop WMFP (must-carry notwithstanding) because it would no longer deliver a good-quality signal to their headends. Same with WYDN (sharing with WPXG) in the southern and western suburbs.

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Good point. I can't tell if that's happening in Atlanta though. Rabbitears.info is sometimes a bit cryptic: https://www.rabbitears.info/market.p...rting=physical
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Good point. I can't tell if that's happening in Atlanta though. Rabbitears.info is sometimes a bit cryptic: https://www.rabbitears.info/market.p...rting=physical
That's because none of Atlanta's stations are sharing, and nearly all of the full-powers will have full-market coverage after the repack.

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