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post #91 of 120 Old 11-17-2018, 03:21 PM
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WRME channel 6 in Chicago
WOCK channel 4 in Chicago
WYGN channel 10 (10 miles east of me)
WRME-LP and WOCK-CD are on low-VHF; a bigger high-VHF antenna would not help you with those. WYGN-LD is not in Chicago.

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WRME-LP and WOCK-CD are on low-VHF; a bigger high-VHF antenna would not help you with those. WYGN-LD is not in Chicago.

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Agreed - I was hoping those VHF-Low stations might come in. No dice.
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I recently bought a Tablo (Lite) TV Antenna DVR and connected it via another 2532 Linear ChannelPlus 2-Way Splitter (identical to one joining my two HDB91X Yagis). I was expecting the station signal strength would drop off with the signal split. Surprisingly, there was almost no reduction in signal strength. A nice surprise!

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After a slightly below average amount of snowfall in southwest Michigan but plenty of wind and ice during this past winter, my three antennas and 10 foot mast survived the winter, although I need to climb up on the roof to remove some tree branches on both of the HDB91X antennas.

Winter performance was excellent, with signal quality about as it was in the fall.

We'll see how it is come June when the leaves are on the trees!

I'm still considering trying out a 536041 Televes Three-Input Mast-Mounted Amplifier and Combiner in the next month or so.

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Unfortunately, the possibility of trees (and more specifically, leaves on trees) reducing signals in the summer has come to light in my system. There are two channels which I was receiving at least 3 out of 5 signal strength and now I get no signal at all.


(No, it's not because of the "repack" - already checked how and when that affects me.)
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I finally got around to experimenting with a Televes preamplifier/combiner. A few weeks ago, I installed a Televes 536021 (sold as a 536081, which is the 536021 plus its power supply).

For now, I am no longer using the CableGuard CG-500 Coax Demarcation Enclosure nor the Channel Plus 2532 combiner that was inside the enclosure (which combined the Chicago and South Bend UHF HDB91X Yagis). I also am not using the RCA TVPRAMP1R Preamplifier that combined the UHF signal with the VHF-Hi signal from a Stellar Labs 30-2475. (The 30-2475 is still being used and the system is still located on a 10.5 feet 1.375 inch diameter electrical conduit.)

Note from the pictures that the connections are made to the Televes "directly" via the copper center wire of the coaxial cable. I replaced all the coaxial cabling connecting all the components as the three antennas now connect directly with the Televes 536021 which has three inputs (two UHF, one VHF).

However, I didn't have the guts to cut off the standard coaxial connector on the downlead - I used a short piece of coaxial cable and male/female adapters to allow connection to the Televes, although I know it creates some signal loss to do so, plus there is the concern with mother nature affecting that "jury rig" adapter for the down lead.

I'm including some pictures, first for the old setup, and then for the present equipment setup. I suppose if I stick with this, I should use that enclosure to house the Televes, although it seems very sturdy and capable of withstanding the elements on its own.

Signal strength seems very good, often better than the previous system, although difficult to compare because it was originally set up in the late autumn when leaves were off the trees. I find a few stations with moderate signal strength in the evening have no signal at all in the morning.

But overall, the system with the Televes preamplifier/combiner is working moderately well at this point.

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I have a question not antenna related.

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After the Repack 6 finishes this October, I see that there are two real frequency conflicts that affect me:


Real frequency 30: both 28-1 WSJV in South Bend with a field strength of 81.82 dBuv/m AND 57-1 WDCI-LD Daystar near Chicago with about 60 dBuv/m. Don’t let those signal strengths fool you. WDCI often has 4 of 5 bars on my TCL TV similar to WSJV (which is the channel I want to receive).

Real frequency 35: both 66-1 WGBO-DT near Chicago AND 57-1 WBND-LD in South Bend which both have a field strength near 74 dBuv/m. This one is upsetting because before the repack, these both come in well and I want to receive both, but with the same RF, I likely will lose WBND which in practice doesn’t come in as well as WBGO.

So why are stations less than 100 miles apart allowed to have the same real frequency?

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So why are stations less than 100 miles apart allowed to have the same real frequency?

Trip in VA is best qualified to answer your question.

My guess is that low powered channels are not protected from interference, and you are not expected to be able to receive out of market channels.

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So why are stations less than 100 miles apart allowed to have the same real frequency?
I don't think the FCC looks at distance between stations. It looks at % interference between stations. As long as that isn't exceeded the distance doesn't matter.

The repack is mostly eliminating reception of out of market stations. You'll have to be happy with the stations in your market.

If both the stations are roughly equal in signal strength and you have a good directional antenna that has at least 20 dB of rejection of the station you're not pointed at, then it's likely you'll receive both.
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I don't think the FCC looks at distance between stations. It looks at % interference between stations. As long as that isn't exceeded the distance doesn't matter.

The repack is mostly eliminating reception of out of market stations. You'll have to be happy with the stations in your market.

If both the stations are roughly equal in signal strength and you have a good directional antenna that has at least 20 dB of rejection of the station you're not pointed at, then it's likely you'll receive both.
Makes sense. Unfortunately in my case, with two significant markets (South Bend 33 miles away and Chicago 58 miles away across Lake Michigan easily within range) and one directional antenna pointed at each picking up several stations, it's annoying to have very little or no control of whether the South Bend station or the Chicago area station with similar "fair" signal strengths will be the one to win the "channel scan battle" before October ends.

At least if WGBO in Chicago overwhelms WBND in South Bend, at least the main ABC-57 WBND channel is simulcast on 25-4 WCWW (although that is one of my worst received channels).

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If both the stations are roughly equal in signal strength and you have a good directional antenna that has at least 20 dB of rejection of the station you're not pointed at, then it's likely you'll receive both.
He has combined both antennas.

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He has combined both antennas.
Correct - two HDB91X antennas are pointing toward South Bend (148 degrees true) and Chicago (261 degrees true) and are the two UHF inputs into a Televes 536021 preamplifier/combiner which has two UHF inputs and one VHF input. (A 30-2415 Hi-VHF antenna pointed toward Chicago is connected to the VHF input on the Televes.)

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Correct - two HDB91X antennas are pointing toward South Bend (148 degrees true) and Chicago (261 degrees true) and are the two UHF inputs into a Televes 536021 preamplifier/combiner (along with a 30-2415 Hi-VHF antenna pointed toward Chicago connected to a VHF input on the Televes).

Maybe that worked for you before but it's not going to work anymore. Time to rethink what you're doing. Either a rotor or an A/B switch or one of those HDHR setups that allows different antennas feeding different tuners.
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Maybe that worked for you before but it's not going to work anymore. Time to rethink what you're doing. Either a rotor or an A/B switch or one of those HDHR setups that allows different antennas feeding different tuners.
Having put a deck over where the RG-6 coaxial cable enters the basement, I can't imagine running a second coax cable for an A/B switch.

When late October comes, we'll see what the TV channel scans show. If a channel I would like to not see has a weaker signal (like Daystar 57-1 WDCI near Chicago), I can try rotating the antenna so that channel is missed on a scan and hopefully everything else remains intact.

The one station I would be unhappy to lose is 28‑1 WSJV near South Bend which is one of my strongest signal stations - so it will hopefully overwhelm Daystar WDCI. As for ABC 57 WBND-LD in South Bend, I don't consistently receive it now with a decent signal and I easily receive the ABC station in Chicago (7-1, WLS), so if 66-1 WGBO overwhelms WBND, I won't be heartbroken. (Additionally, 25-4 WCWW-LD in South Bend is a simulcast of ABC 57-1 WBND, although I don't receive WCWW very well.)

My reception situation will need to be MUCH worse in November than it is presently to go down the rotator or A/B switch path. Most likely, I will be receiving a very large majority of the channels I receive now, so I won't likely be trying the rotator or A/B switch.

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The repack is mostly eliminating reception of out of market stations. You'll have to be happy with the stations in your market.
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I guess they consider my southwest Michigan location a little south of Saint Joseph/Benton Harbor to be in a South Bend (33 miles away) market - even though 8 of the 13 highest strength stations come from Chicago 58 miles away.
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This map shows the transmitter locations:



Notice that the transmitting antenna pattern for WFLD Fox in Chicago intentionally restricts the coverage in your area to reduce interference:

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Here's an image showing the FCC service contours for your RF 35 stations.
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Hi bud9534,

Just a thought, but doesn’t that Televes pre-amp have power adjustment screws for all 3 inputs? Perhaps with enough trial & error you can work through getting the right RF 35 to come through.

Otherwise, what comes to mind with a multiple antenna approach from my novice mind is to spend money on a Jan Jenca combiner, which might affect adjacent channels:

http://www.antenne-komponenty.eu/english/main/product/zlucovace.html

Contributor Primestar31 (a fellow Michigander) on this site has posted about his success with sourcing one.

I can tell you’re having lots of fun tinkering with and thinking about how to maximize your great location by the lake. Good for you. I’m reminded of the saying, “Better to have tried and failed than to have never tried at all!”

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Hi bud9534,

Just a thought, but doesn’t that Televes pre-amp have power adjustment screws for all 3 inputs? Perhaps with enough trial & error you can work through getting the right RF 35 to come through.
Yes, the two UHF inputs and the VHF input all have their own individual adjustment screws which I have not yet touched.

I can see trying to lower the Chicago signal output so they are barely able to be scanned and this might allow the South Bend stations I want to be scanned (after the Repack 6 is finished in October).
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Hi bud9534,

Just a thought, but doesn’t that Televes pre-amp have power adjustment screws for all 3 inputs? Perhaps with enough trial & error you can work through getting the right RF 35 to come through.
Nice idea but that would work if only one station was received by each antenna. The reality is that the station you're not pointing at is only attenuated by the antenna pattern. Attenuating the signal on one antenna has no affect on the other antenna. With the antenna he's using you can expect 20-30 dB rejection of stations not in the main lobe.

If he keeps two antennas pointed in two directions one of the expected outcomes is reception of neither station.

From looking at his location, he might be in an area where both stations have a similar signal strength. In that case a rotor or an A/B switch would do the job.
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With the A/B switch or antenna rotator highly unlikely to be used, I will give a full report in late October on what channels are being received.

I have the option of making a signal reduction of the Chicago HDB91X UHF antenna (middle antenna in the attached picture). I have also successfully in the past turned that antenna temporarily to the northwest so that only WDCI Daystar 57-1 near Chicago would not be received but that WBND 57-1 in South Bend would be received, then did my final channel scan before restoring the Chicago HDB91X to its 261 degree true position.

Full report in late October to follow (assuming Repack 6 happens on schedule to be completed by October 18, 2019 -- not sure how often some station isn't properly switched by the repack end date!).

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(Additional quick question - how do I get my attached pictures to show up normally as part of my post and not as "attached thumbnails" that have to be clicked to open, such as the one I have attached to this email?)
There are two ways you can have a photo show in a post.

1. First make the photo an attachment to the post as you have done, and then make the image show in the post.
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2. Upload your photo to an image host like imgur.com, and use the link for the photo to show in the post.

In both cases, the image must be the resized for the post. With a horizontal photo, I try to keep it no wider than 750 pixels. With a vertical photo it can be narrower. I made your antenna photo 500 pixels wide.

I used method No. 1:
1. I downloaded your photo. It was a very large 2.36 MB file with the photo 3000 x 4000 pixels. I opened a copy in Paint, resized it to 500 x 666, and added your credit line.
2. I added it as an attachment to this post, and clicked on SUBMIT REPLY.
3. When the post showed, I right clicked on the attachment thumbnail to show the image in a new tab.
4. I clicked on the URL for the attachment to save it > opened the post to edit > clicked on the Insert Image icon at the top of the text box > entered the URL for the attachment, clicked on SAVE CHANGES.



Nice photo, bud.

OK?
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There are two ways you can have a photo show in a post.

1. First make the photo an attachment to the post as you have done, and then make the image show in the post.
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2. Upload your photo to an image host like imgur.com, and use the link for the photo to show in the post.

In both cases, the image must be the resized for the post. With a horizontal photo, I try to keep it no wider than 750 pixels. With a vertical photo it can be narrower. I made your antenna photo 500 pixels wide.

I used method No. 1:
1. I downloaded your photo. It was a very large 2.36 MB file with the photo 3000 x 4000 pixels. I opened a copy in Paint, resized it to 500 x 666, and added your credit line.
2. I added it as an attachment to this post, and clicked on SUBMIT REPLY.
3. When the post showed, I right clicked on the attachment thumbnail to show the image in a new tab.
4. I clicked on the URL for the attachment to save it > opened the post to edit > clicked on the Insert Image icon at the top of the text box > entered the URL for the attachment, clicked on SAVE CHANGES.



Nice photo, bud.

OK?

Great instructions! Should have asked this long ago. I updated Post #96 above using your instructions. Thanks!


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Waiting for late October (after the Phase 6 repack completion) and with a few heavy rains lately, I had concern whether my Televes premplifier/combiner would be negatively affected. It's a sturdy piece of equipment, but still likely a good idea to give it some protection. As you can see in the picture, I found a temporary "sandwich bag" solution. Once I decide in late October if I'm sticking with the Televes or not (my guess now is that's it at least 75% chance I will stick with the Televes), I'll try to find a simple but better and more permanent solution.

No, I'm not advertising for Meijer grocery stores! The simple upside down sandwich bag should give reasonable protection for a few months. It doesn't get hot enough here to cause a problem, especially with the surrounding trees shading the area.

Has anyone had a problem enclosing something like this and having issues with it getting too warm and causing damage?

Note in the lower left is the Achilles heel of the system - the taped up female/female connector between a short coax adapter with male connector on one end and bare coaxial cable on the other and the downlead. (I'm going to need to be very confident I'm sticking with the Televes before I cut off the male connection on the downlead!) At least I'm avoiding it being at the bottom of a drip loop.


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Here is my initial station reception following the Phase 6 repack


South Bend area stations (about 33 miles at 147 degrees true)

Display (Real), Station, signal strength

10 (10), WYGN, 4 out of 5 (10 miles at 111 degrees true)
16 (27), WNDU 5 out of 5
22 (29), WSBT, 5 out of 5
25 (25*), WCWW, 0 out of 5 (not scanned)
28 (30*), WSJV, 0 out of 5 (not scanned)
34 (31), WNIT, 5 out of 5
46 (36), WHME, 5 out of 5
57 (35*), WBND, 0 out of 5 (unscanned)
69 (28), WMYS, 4 out of 5


Chicago area stations (about 57 miles at 261 degrees true)

Display (Real), Station, signal strength

2 (12), WBBM, 4 out of 5
5 (33), WMAQ, 5 out of 5
7 (22), WLS, 5 out of 5
9 (19), WGN, 5 out of 5
11 (25*), WTTW, 0 out of 5, unscanned
20 (25*), WYCC, 0 out of 5, unscanned (no longer broadcasting?)
23 (20), WWME, 2 out of 5 (not previously received)
24 (26), WPVN, 2 out of 5 (not previously received)
26 (23), WCIU, 5 out of 5
32 (24), WFLD, 5 out of 5
38 (34), WCPX, 5 out of 5
44 (33), WSNS, 5 out of 5
48 (18), WMEU, 5 out of 5
50 (24), WPWR, 5 out of 5
57 (30*), WDCI, 0 out of 5 (unscanned)
60 (22), WXFT, 5 out of 5
62 (21), WJYS, 4.5 out of 5
66 (35*), WGBO, 1 out of 5 (barely scanned, unwatchable)


Of the stations I am receiving, the reception is at least as good or better than before. The most significant improvement is WMEU 48 (18) which comes in much better, previously being 3 out of 5.

Unfortunately, the stations below associated with RF 25, 30, and 35 have become unwatchable.

25 (25*), WCWW, 0 out of 5 (not scanned)
28 (30*), WSJV, 0 out of 5 (not scanned)
57 (35*), WBND, 0 out of 5 (unscanned)

11 (25*), WTTW, 0 out of 5, unscanned
57 (30*), WDCI, 0 out of 5 (unscanned)
66 (35*), WGBO, 1 out of 5 (barely scanned, unwatchable)

In the near future, I will be disconnecting my Chicago antenna to see if I can receive South Bend stations WCWW, WSJV, or WBND.

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Unfortunately, the stations below associated with RF 25, 30, and 35 have become unwatchable.

25 (25*), WCWW, 0 out of 5 (not scanned)
28 (30*), WSJV, 0 out of 5 (not scanned)
57 (35*), WBND, 0 out of 5 (unscanned)

11 (25*), WTTW, 0 out of 5, unscanned
57 (30*), WDCI, 0 out of 5 (unscanned)
[/SIZE][/FONT] 66 (35*), WGBO, 1 out of 5 (barely scanned, unwatchable)

In the near future, I will be disconnecting my Chicago antenna to see if I can receive South Bend stations WCWW, WSJV, or WBND.

You'll need to separate the two UHF antennas to have any chance of receiving the co-channel stations from different directions.
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You'll need to separate the two UHF antennas to have any chance of receiving the co-channel stations from different directions.
I'm sure that is true - but as I said in my last message, I'll be temporarily removing the Chicago antenna from the system to see if I can receive the RF 25/30/35 stations in the South Bend area. Curiosity!

I have already tried pointing the Chicago antenna from 261 to 317 degrees (Milwaukee) to see if that would reduce the Chicago station inputs enough to receive any of the South Bend area channels

25 (25), WCWW
28 (30), WSJV
57 (35), WBND


and I still received none of them - but I did receive WTMJ NBC channel 4 in Milwaukee from 102 miles away!

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[QUOTE=budh9534;58718756]I'm sure that is true - but as I said in my last message, I'll be temporarily removing the Chicago antenna from the system to see if I can receive the RF 25/30/35 stations in the South Bend area. Curiosity!

This morning, I disconnected the Chicago antenna (at the balun) and rescanned to see if I could receive any of the following South Bend channels previously unscannable following the October 18 repack:

25 (RF 25), WCWW
28 (RF 30), WSJV
57 (RF 35), WBND


I received a large majority of Chicago stations I received previously, but at a marginal signal level. For the three South Bend stations above, I easily received two of them and a third one didn't even get detected on the rescan.

WCWW 25 (RF 25), 4 out of 5 signal strength, potential conflict with WTTW 11 (RF 25) in Chicago area
WSJV 28 (RF 30), 5 out of 5 signal strength, potential conflict with WDCI 57 (RF 30) in Chicago area
WBND 57 (RF 35), undetected on rescan, potential conflict with WGBO 66 (RF 35) in the Chicago area.

Historically, before the repack, WBND 57 was always difficult to receive, never being better than 3 out of 5 signal strength. WCWW 25 was nearly as difficult. WSJV was always a consistent 5 out of 5 which makes it especially annoying that the conflict with a religious station WDCI 57 Daystar is making it unscannable when the Chicago antenna is part of the antenna system.
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Unfortunately, the stations below associated with RF 25, 30, and 35 have become unwatchable.

South Bend area
25 (RF 25), WCWW, 0 out of 5 (not scanned)
28 (RF 30), WSJV, 0 out of 5 (not scanned)
57 (RF 35), WBND, 0 out of 5 (unscanned)

Chicago area
11 (RF 25), WTTW, 0 out of 5, unscanned
57 (RF 30), WDCI, 0 out of 5 (unscanned)
66 (RF 35), WGBO, 1 out of 5 (barely scanned, unwatchable)
I experimented by pointing my 261 degrees true HDB91X Chicago antenna to 249 degrees true. Amazingly, I'm suddenly receiving WSJV with a 5 out of 5 signal and WGBO with a 3 out of 5 signal. WCWW and WTTW on RF 25 still are conflicting enough that neither has been scanned since the October 18 repack date.

A large majority of other received stations have a 5 out of 5 signal, with a few at 4 out of 5.

Final results, which with winter coming soon, I don't expect to be changing the system any time soon:

South Bend area stations (about 33 miles at 147 degrees true, HDB91X antenna at 147 degrees true)

Display (Real), Station, signal strength

10 (10), WYGN, 4 out of 5 (10 miles at 111 degrees true)
16 (27), WNDU 5 out of 5
22 (29), WSBT, 5 out of 5
25 (25*), WCWW, 0 out of 5 (unscanned)
28 (30*), WSJV, 5 out of 5
34 (31), WNIT, 5 out of 5
46 (36), WHME, 5 out of 5
57 (35*), WBND, 0 out of 5 (unscanned)
69 (28), WMYS, 4 out of 5

Chicago area stations (about 57 miles at 261 degrees true, HDB91X antenna at 249 degrees true, 30-2476 antenna at 261 degrees true)

Display (Real), Station, signal strength

2 (12), WBBM, 4 out of 5
5 (33), WMAQ, 5 out of 5
7 (22), WLS, 5 out of 5
9 (19), WGN, 5 out of 5
11 (25*), WTTW, 0 out of 5 (unscanned)
23 (20), WWME, 2 out of 5
24 (26), WPVN, 2 out of 5
26 (23), WCIU, 5 out of 5
32 (24), WFLD, 5 out of 5
38 (34), WCPX, 5 out of 5
44 (33), WSNS, 5 out of 5
48 (18), WMEU, 4 out of 5
50 (24), WPWR, 5 out of 5
57 (30*), WDCI, 0 out of 5 (unscanned)
60 (22), WXFT, 5 out of 5
62 (21), WJYS, 4 out of 5
66 (35*), WGBO, 3 out of 5
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All sorted by real frequency (CHI = Chicago, SB = South Bend area)

10 (10), WYGN, 4 out of 5 (SB)
2 (12), WBBM, 4 out of 5 (CHI)
48 (18), WMEU, 4 out of 5 (CHI)
9 (19), WGN, 5 out of 5 (CHI)
23 (20), WWME, 2 out of 5 (CHI)
62 (21), WJYS, 4 out of 5 (CHI)
7 (22), WLS, 5 out of 5 (CHI)
60 (22), WXFT, 5 out of 5 (CHI)
26 (23), WCIU, 5 out of 5 (CHI)
32 (24), WFLD, 5 out of 5 (CHI)
11 (25*), WTTW, 0 out of 5 (unscanned) (CHI)
25 (25*), WCWW, 0 out of 5 (unscanned) (SB)
24 (26), WPVN, 2 out of 5
16 (27), WNDU 5 out of 5 (SB)
69 (28), WMYS, 4 out of 5 (SB)
22 (29), WSBT, 5 out of 5 (SB)
28 (30*), WSJV, 5 out of 5 (SB)
57 (30*), WDCI, 0 out of 5 (unscanned) (CHI)
34 (31), WNIT, 5 out of 5 (SB)
5 (33), WMAQ, 5 out of 5 (CHI)
38 (34), WCPX, 5 out of 5 (CHI)
66 (35*), WGBO, 3 out of 5 (CHI)
57 (35*), WBND, 0 out of 5 (unscanned) (SB)
46 (36), WHME, 5 out of 5 (SB)

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After experimenting with adjusting antenna directions to help with getting some reception with the six stations with conflicting RF 25, 30, and 35, I've come to the conclusion I'm not going to receive any of those six stations and nearly all the networks I could watch on those six stations are available on other stations. So I again have my Televes combiner/preamp connected to a Stellar Labs 30-2475 Hi-VHF antenna and HDB91X both pointed to 261 degrees true (Chicago) and a second HDB91X pointed to 147 degrees true (South Bend).

Display, (Real), Station, Signal Strength, Location

2 (12), WBBM, 4 out of 5 (Chicago)
5 (33), WMAQ, 5 out of 5 (Chicago)
7 (22), WLS, 5 out of 5 (Chicago)
9 (19), WGN, 5 out of 5 (Chicago)
10 (10), WYGN, 4 out of 5 (South Bend area)
16 (27), WNDU 5 out of 5 (South Bend)
22 (29), WSBT, 5 out of 5 (South Bend)
23 (20), WWME, 2 out of 5 (Chicago)
24 (26), WPVN, 2 out of 5 (Chicago)
26 (23), WCIU, 5 out of 5 (Chicago)
32 (24), WFLD, 5 out of 5 (Chicago)
34 (31), WNIT, 5 out of 5 (South Bend)
38 (34), WCPX, 5 out of 5 (Chicago)
44 (33), WSNS, 5 out of 5 (Chicago)
46 (36), WHME, 5 out of 5 (South Bend)
48 (18), WMEU, 4 out of 5 (Chicago)
50 (24), WPWR, 5 out of 5 (Chicago)
60 (22), WXFT, 5 out of 5 (Chicago)
62 (21), WJYS, 4 out of 5 (Chicago)
69 (28), WMYS, 5 out of 5 (South Bend)


STATIONS NO LONGER RECEIVED

South Bend area
25 (RF 25), WCWW
28 (RF 30), WSJV
57 (RF 35), WBND

Chicago area
11 (RF 25), WTTW
57 (RF 30), WDCI
66 (RF 35), WGBO


NETWORKS RECEIVED (FROM STATIONS WITH MORE THAN 2 OF 5 SIGNAL STRENGTH)

ABC 7-1
CBS 2-1, 22-1, 48-3
NBC 5-1, 16-1
FOX 22-2, 32-1
CW 26-1
PBS 34-1
Antenna TV 9-2, 16-2
Bounce TV 26-5
Buzzr 32-3
Charge! 62-3
Circle 16-3
Court TV 9-3
COZI TV 5-2
DABL 2-3
Decades 26-6, 48-4, 69-3
ESCAPE 60-2
Grit 46-3
H&I 26-4
Heartland 62-4
ION 38-1, 46-2
IONPlus 38-3
Laff 46-4
Light 32-4, 46-5
LivWell 7-2
MeTV 26-3
Movies! 32-2
Quest 60-3
Start TV 2-2, 48-2
TBD 9-4
Telemundo 44-1, 69-2
TeleXitos 44-2
The U 26-2, 48-1

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