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post #1141 of 2223 Old 05-06-2011, 07:23 PM
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Seriously, though, why no USB3 on X79? Support for 10(!) SATA3 6Gbps ports sounds pretty awesome, though.
Intel said some time ago they didn't plan to support USB3 natively until Ivy Bridge, but with sata there is a big difference going from marvel to intels, but in usb, the renesas/nec is doing fine imo, even intel mobos come with it,
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Glad to see we get oc'ing and igp on all boards. I think my p67 is soon to be worth a lot less.

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If H77 is almost the same as Z77, (except not supporting more than one video card), it would seem that H77 might be best for low power HTPC using the integrated graphics. I wonder if they will finally fix the 24 Hz bug.
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Crystal Disk Mark result here.

HDD + 20GB SSD as a caching (I am not sure which HDD is used)

SSD (Intel X25-M 80GB)

HDD only (WD20EARS)


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Crystal Disk Mark result here.

HDD + 20GB SSD as a caching (I am not sure which HDD is used)

SSD (Intel X25-M 80GB)

HDD only (WD20EARS)


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The system consumes around 40 watts at idle, and goes up to 45 watts while accessing the hard drive during Blu-ray ISO playback.

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Thank you for the wattage info - does anyone have wattage info with a 2100T on the intel ITX board? How low does it go at idle?
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Thank you for the wattage info - does anyone have wattage info with a 2100T on the intel ITX board? How low does it go at idle?

Look at my blog.

I have pics for the 2100t on a kill-a-watt for a test build I did yesterday for my new company.

Idle is around 30-35 watts with a SSD, 2TB HD, 4GB RAM and Bluray (non-Intel MB).
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Im building a setup with the i3 2100T, all stuff is on route (although might take like 3 weeks more to reach to me, as i live in guatemala), but im hopping i can reach close to what

MissingRemote Intel Core i3-2100T and DH67CF Mini-ITX Motherboard

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CPU Intel Sandy Bridge Core I3-2100T Processor
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Ill post the Killowatt screens once everything arrives and i build it. I dont expect his 14W idle though, my PSU is bigger and he is using an ssd and im using a 2.5 laptop hdd, an extra 2gb ram and couple of fans, and different mobo/chipset but still intel, so im hopping to stay around 20W, but will see.
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Is there any solid release dates for the Z68 board? Im hoping its close to the i3-2105 release of may 22nd.

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Is there any solid release dates for the Z68 board?

May 11.
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Look at my blog.

I have pics for the 2100t on a kill-a-watt for a test build I did yesterday for my new company.

Idle is around 30-35 watts with a SSD, 2TB HD, 4GB RAM and Bluray (non-Intel MB).

it idles at 35 watts? I thought its max was 35....

By the way, where can one get a kill a watt? Its a for sale item somewhere? Sorry if this is a FAQ....
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it idles at 35 watts? I thought its max was 35....

By the way, where can one get a kill a watt? Its a for sale item somewhere? Sorry if this is a FAQ....

35W TDP for the CPU

That's why I listed all the other parts --> 2TB Hard Drive, PSU, 4GB RAM, Bluray drive, SSD.

32 watts idle is pretty good.
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Exclusive: Gigabyte GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3 pictures by VR-Zone

There are not many Z68 microATX mb at the initial release. The other two are

- ASRock Z68 Pro3-M
- MSI Z68MA-ED55

and there is no ASUS Z68 microATX, AFAIK.
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Exclusive: Gigabyte GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3 pictures by VR-Zone

There are not many Z68 microATX mb at the initial release. The other two are

- ASRock Z68 Pro3-M
- MSI Z68MA-ED55

and there is no ASUS Z68 microATX, AFAIK.

Rene - Couple of quick questions.

Are we expecting May 11 (for Z68) and May 22 (for i3-2105) to be "retail" release dates? In other words - would these boards & CPU's be available on online retailers like Newegg around 11th/22nd? Or would it take longer for them to hit retailers?

And two, do you know if ASUS has any plans to release a Z68 mATX at all? Not that I would heart-broken - I'm ready to jump on a GigaByte or ASRock!

Thanks!!

EDIT: That Gigabyte board looks awesome!!! Definitely a front-runner!! Can't wait for these 3 to hit newegg so I can feature-compare and get actual prices!!! Thanks.

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Intel desktop Sandy Bridge CPUs to launch on May 22 by CPU World. The price is 1Ku Tray Units.

Core

- i5-2405S 4-core/4-thread 2.50GHz/TB 3.30GHz L3=6MB HD 3000 65W $205
- i5-2310 4-core/4-thread 2.90GHz/TB 3.20GHz L3=6MB HD 2000 95W $177
- i3-2105 2-core/4-thread 3.10GHz L3=3MB HD 3000 65W $134

(i3-2100 is $117, i3-2100T is $127.)

Pentium

- G850 2-core/2-thread 2.90GHz L3=3MB 2ch DDR3-1333 65W $86
- G840 2-core/2-thread 2.80GHz L3=3MB 2ch DDR3-1333 65W $75
- G620 2-core/2-thread 2.60GHz L3=3MB 2ch DDR3-1066 65W $64
- G620T 2-core/2-thread 2.20GHz L3=3MB 2ch DDR3-1066 35W $64
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Z68 mb should be available immediately at retail stores on May 11, as well as new CPUs on May 22.
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Z68 mb should be available immediately at retail stores on May 11, as well as new CPUs on May 22.

AWESOME. Excellent pricing up there too. i3-2105 is definitely a sure shot. I'm not 100% sure about Z68 - it will really depend on pricing. Since I'm not buying an OC'able CPU, and nor SSD, I'm not sure if Z68 is going to be worth it for me since those are it's 2 main features over H67 ... so I might stick with an H67 unless the price difference is absolutely negligible.

I wish the i5-2310 was HD3000. At the $174 price point I would have picked it over the i3-2105. Seems like the cheapest i5 w/ HD3000 is going to be @ $205.

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Will any of these May 22nd CPUs will fit the H67 MB? currently I am using the i3 2100. If so, is it just swapping or do I need to do a clean OS install?
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Intel desktop Sandy Bridge CPUs to launch on May 22 by CPU World. The price is 1Ku Tray Units.

Core

- i5-2405S 4-core/4-thread 2.50GHz/TB 3.30GHz L3=6MB HD 3000 65W $205
- i5-2310 4-core/4-thread 2.90GHz/TB 3.20GHz L3=6MB HD 2000 95W $177
- i3-2105 2-core/4-thread 3.10GHz L3=3MB HD 3000 65W $134

(i3-2100 is $117, i3-2100T is $127.)

Pentium

- G850 2-core/2-thread 2.90GHz L3=3MB 2ch DDR3-1333 65W $86
- G840 2-core/2-thread 2.80GHz L3=3MB 2ch DDR3-1333 65W $75
- G620 2-core/2-thread 2.60GHz L3=3MB 2ch DDR3-1066 65W $64
- G620T 2-core/2-thread 2.20GHz L3=3MB 2ch DDR3-1066 35W $64

which one of these i5's would be comparable to a i5 2500k
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which one of these i5's would be comparable to a i5 2500k

GPU-wise? The ones that end with 05.
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Intel desktop Sandy Bridge CPUs to launch on May 22 by CPU World. The price is 1Ku Tray Units.

Core

- i5-2405S 4-core/4-thread 2.50GHz/TB 3.30GHz L3=6MB HD 3000 65W $205
- i5-2310 4-core/4-thread 2.90GHz/TB 3.20GHz L3=6MB HD 2000 95W $177
- i3-2105 2-core/4-thread 3.10GHz L3=3MB HD 3000 65W $134

(i3-2100 is $117, i3-2100T is $127.)

Pentium

- G850 2-core/2-thread 2.90GHz L3=3MB 2ch DDR3-1333 65W $86
- G840 2-core/2-thread 2.80GHz L3=3MB 2ch DDR3-1333 65W $75
- G620 2-core/2-thread 2.60GHz L3=3MB 2ch DDR3-1066 65W $64
- G620T 2-core/2-thread 2.20GHz L3=3MB 2ch DDR3-1066 35W $64
No word on the i5 2500T?
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Will any of these May 22nd CPUs will fit the H67 MB? currently I am using the i3 2100. If so, is it just swapping or do I need to do a clean OS install?
The Core i's are all LGA1155 - same socket as H67 so they will all fit H67 motherboards. I don't believe (Correct me if I'm wrong) a clean OS install is necessary. I think you swap out a CPU without an OS reinstall.

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The Core i's are all LGA1155 - same socket as H67 so they will all fit H67 motherboards. I don't believe (Correct me if I'm wrong) a clean OS install is necessary. I think you swap out a CPU without an OS reinstall.
That is my thought, at least my impression.

I thought unless I change the MB, otherwise no clean OS install necessary. Anyone can confirm? Thank you.
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That is my thought, at least my impression.

I thought unless I change the MB, otherwise no clean OS install necessary. Anyone can confirm? Thank you.
No, you shouldn't have to re-install anything.

At the very most you might have to update your bios.
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no, you shouldn't have to re-install anything.

At the very most you might have to update your bios.
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No, you shouldn't have to re-install anything.

At the very most you might have to update your bios.
Thanks. So my i3 2100 will be on eBay the following week after this release
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it idles at 35 watts? I thought its max was 35....

By the way, where can one get a kill a watt? Its a for sale item somewhere? Sorry if this is a FAQ....
Amazon has the p3 kill a watt EZ on sale for $22
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No, you shouldn't have to re-install anything.

At the very most you might have to update your bios.
Although generally I agree, but Microsoft & others have some DRM that drives me insane. Previously, I have seen the PlayOn integration in WMC freak out when I changed a processor. And back in Vista, all my recorded ATSC shows from WMC became unplayable due to DRM once I changed the processor.

If things act a little wonky, you may have to reinstall Windows, but theoretically you shouldn't have to.

Bazinga!

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Although generally I agree, but Microsoft & others have some DRM that drives me insane. Previously, I have seen the PlayOn integration in WMC freak out when I changed a processor. And back in Vista, all my recorded ATSC shows from WMC became unplayable due to DRM once I changed the processor.

If things act a little wonky, you may have to reinstall Windows, but theoretically you shouldn't have to.

I recently upgraded from a 785g board (with Phenom II) to a H67 (with 2500k). The surprising thing was that the system actually loaded fine (updating drivers etc.) without having to reinstall Windows. I was able to record tv shows (though with Sage). It seem to work fine.
I still did a clean install soon afterwards as I had planned that anyhow (and I wasn't so sure whether there were any side effects).

But I agree, it's a different story, if you use WMC. CPU/Motherboard changes could trigger clean installs.
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