Software for a "headless" htpc music setup? - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 15 Old 06-02-2014, 05:13 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
DaveHCYJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 355
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Liked: 15
I have an old core2duo laptop that I got for free.
I have an old pioneer elite AVR that I got for $10.
+ some outdoor speakers and I've got a pretty cheap outdoor deck solution.


The challenge is how do I control it? My plan is to put the laptop and avr in my basement storage area which is just inside where my deck is. I can then just run speaker wires out to the deck to the outdoor speakers. I can't put the laptop or avr outside permanently since they can't handle the weather, but with them in the basement I need some method of wireless control without being able to see the laptop screen.


I don't know much about what sort of software is available, but if you guys point me in the right direction I can do some research...

My main requirement is that I be able to control the software via an app on my phone, or even the web browser on my phone. I need to be able to control what is playing and the volume. As far as sources, I would be happy with something as simple as spotify or pandora. For volume control it would be great if I could get some sort of usb ir blaster to hook up to the laptop that the software would control so that I can use the volume control on the avr, as an alternative if the software can at least control the volume level of the laptop output that would probably work.

I know this forum is mostly for Theater Computer setups, but I wasn't sure where else to look for software solutions.
DaveHCYJ is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 15 Old 06-03-2014, 04:36 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
stanger89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Marion, IA
Posts: 23,130
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4156 Post(s)
Liked: 2384
J River Media Center has a phone app. Or you could run Squeezebox Server and SqueezeSlave/SqueezePlay, those also have a phone app I believe.
stanger89 is offline  
post #3 of 15 Old 06-03-2014, 06:18 AM
Member
 
bobafetthotmail's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 140
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 16 Post(s)
Liked: 40

There is also XBMC, that is free and has a good remote app too.

 

To send commands to the AVR you can use something like this http://www.usbuirt.com/overview.htm or others of the same kind, but I doubt you can have an app controlling both XBMC and this thing open at the same time. You can use a wifi multimedia keyboard remote for PC (like these or whatever else http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/seven-amazing-kinds-of-htpc-media-center-remote-controls/ ) to control volume or other AVR functions and XBMC + app (or another media center + app) to control what is playing and volume of the laptop.

bobafetthotmail is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 15 Old 06-03-2014, 08:06 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
trans_lux's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In my theater
Posts: 1,033
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 119 Post(s)
Liked: 165
Easiest solution would be to install iTunes and use an IOS or Android device over WiFi for control.
Apple Remote-https://itunes.apple.com/app/remote/id284417350?mt=8
Android app-https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.squallydoc.retune&feature=search_result

Or if you want a more adventurous project.
+ 1 for Squeezebox
You could certainly configure it on your laptop to be both server and player.
Or you could grab a Raspberry pi and throw Squeeezeplug on it http://www.squeezeplug.eu/
Both are super easy to setup http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Beginners_Guide_Overview
You would also have access to all the streaming services as well as any local files.
Either way you would have excellent control from the free phone apps or through a browser.
trans_lux is offline  
post #5 of 15 Old 06-03-2014, 02:32 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
DaveHCYJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 355
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Liked: 15
Sounds like squeezebox is worth playing with -- I'll go down that route and see how far I get.

Thanks.
DaveHCYJ is offline  
post #6 of 15 Old 06-04-2014, 06:26 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
cburbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Somewhere in Oregon
Posts: 3,224
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 151 Post(s)
Liked: 39
Two options I have setup -

Foobar w\ foobar control - http://assassinhtpcblog.com/miscellaneous/#guide50

Squeezeplay with Tablet Control for Music and Internet Radio Playback (with Sqeezeslave) - http://assassinhtpcblog.com/miscellaneous/#guide48

If you have a paid Pandora account you can use that with squeezeplay as well.

"You’re KILLIN’ ME Smalls! "

Sony 55EX500 Settings
cburbs is offline  
post #7 of 15 Old 06-05-2014, 12:20 AM
Member
 
tmavs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
Posts: 117
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Liked: 19
You need to provide more details. What phone do you have? What is the model number of the the Pioneer AVR?

My Pioneer AVR supports DLNA and is connected on the same network as my HTPC and Android device (phone/tablet).
HTPC runs Foobar (music source)
Android device runs BubbleUPNP.

This allows me to play music from the HTPC through the Pioneer AVR. Volume control is possible over DLNA, if your AVR supports it.
tmavs is offline  
post #8 of 15 Old 06-05-2014, 04:30 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
stanger89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Marion, IA
Posts: 23,130
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4156 Post(s)
Liked: 2384
Quote:
Originally Posted by trans_lux View Post

Easiest solution would be to install iTunes and use an IOS or Android device over WiFi for control.
Apple Remote-https://itunes.apple.com/app/remote/id284417350?mt=8
Android app-https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.squallydoc.retune&feature=search_result

Or if you want a more adventurous project.
+ 1 for Squeezebox
You could certainly configure it on your laptop to be both server and player.
Or you could grab a Raspberry pi and throw Squeeezeplug on it http://www.squeezeplug.eu/
Both are super easy to setup http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Beginners_Guide_Overview
You would also have access to all the streaming services as well as any local files.
Either way you would have excellent control from the free phone apps or through a browser.

J River Media Center is probably the best combination of the two. It's simple to set up, but it's actually more powerful than Squeezebox server (at least if you don't get into some plugins for SBS). The only down side is it's not free.
stanger89 is offline  
post #9 of 15 Old 06-09-2014, 12:34 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
fitbrit's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,201
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 74 Post(s)
Liked: 59
Another vote for JRiver.
This is my user experience:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=85580.0
fitbrit is offline  
post #10 of 15 Old 06-09-2014, 01:21 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
gtgray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,807
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 242 Post(s)
Liked: 153
JRiver on the PC or Laptop and Gizmo on an Android device.

Samsung 78" JS8600, Mits WD-92840 43" Samsung 43ku7000 - Lumagen Radiance XS, Martin Logan Motion 40s, Ascend Sierra 2s
58" Panny Plasma -DVDO DUO, Usher S520, JBL HLS-610, Definitive SM45, MusicHall Marimba
gtgray is offline  
post #11 of 15 Old 06-14-2014, 09:23 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Eiffel's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: London
Posts: 1,688
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Liked: 16
If you don't mind installing another operating system, check out http://vortexbox.org/about


This is a customised Linux (Fedora) install, with the Logitech Media Server application pre-installed, as well as a corresponding software player.


It is bit-perfect, works with the sound card of your laptop, as well as with USB DACs (for better quality), can be controlled by iPeng, or any Android/iOS application compatible with squeezeboxes. You could also use it to serve music to any Logitech Squeezebox and control the whole thing from a web browser if so desired.


Free, very reliable, low on resource usage and truly headless once installed. A great solution in my mind.

Last edited by Eiffel; 06-14-2014 at 09:27 AM.
Eiffel is offline  
post #12 of 15 Old 06-14-2014, 09:43 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
gtgray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,807
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 242 Post(s)
Liked: 153
Depending on what you have in mind you might consider the ID from JRiver. It is an Intel NUC running a customized version JRiver. So it is basically a bundled solution. It has HDMI and supports USB DACs. They just started shipping this. A user reports about 7 watt power consumption playing music. You would control it remotely via Android or IOS device or from another PC running JRiver. It is basically a DLNA renderer.

Samsung 78" JS8600, Mits WD-92840 43" Samsung 43ku7000 - Lumagen Radiance XS, Martin Logan Motion 40s, Ascend Sierra 2s
58" Panny Plasma -DVDO DUO, Usher S520, JBL HLS-610, Definitive SM45, MusicHall Marimba
gtgray is offline  
post #13 of 15 Old 06-15-2014, 06:58 AM
Member
 
fibertech's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dallas
Posts: 90
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Liked: 19
I use Album Player with a tablet app to control it. It looks like a real jukebox.
fibertech is offline  
post #14 of 15 Old 06-15-2014, 09:17 AM
 
Mfusick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Western MA
Posts: 29,681
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 608 Post(s)
Liked: 2725
Bookmarked
Mfusick is offline  
post #15 of 15 Old 06-17-2014, 07:19 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
jriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 1,560
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 93 Post(s)
Liked: 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by gtgray View Post
Depending on what you have in mind you might consider the ID from JRiver.
Here's the description of the Id:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Id

A user in Australia just posted a video of using it in his car, running off the cigarette lighter.
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/inde...7057#msg617057

Jim Hillegass / JRiver Media Center
jriver.com or Owners Thread at AVSForum
jriver is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply Home Theater Computers

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off