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That would be preferable, the 2060 Super is basically a 2070 (non-super). Its a good step up from a 2060 but also $100 more. The 2060 KO can be had from EVGA for $299.



The 2060 is pretty good madvr card with a number of people here using them. And just for reference the lower model of the madvr envy (madvr's new hardware that cost $5000) is speculated to have something like a 1660 Super based on the advertised teraflops.



So 2060 super better, 2060 still pretty dang good.



I am pretty happy with a GTX 1060 6GB. Most of (not all) the settings I want to use I can.
So are you saying many people have to regular 2060, or do most use the 2060 super?

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So are you saying many people have to regular 2060, or do most use the 2060 super?

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I've seen a number of people here using and recommending the 2060 (non super).

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I've seen a number of people here using and recommending the 2060 (non super).
Didn't I read people saying that the 1060 is just as good as the 2060, for running MadVR? I think they said there's no advantage using a 20 series, over the 10 series, for MadVR.

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Can anyone send me any kind of guide for using two different gpus and how this would be set up? (does any article like this exist?)

Also (sorry for all the questions!) can anyone recommend a cpu/mobo combo to pair up with this setup for madvr?, thank you so much for your help.
Honestly, this isn't very easy or convenient to do. What I'd do is hook up both video cards and then run an HDMI cable from each card into your AVR in separate presets. One HDMI will be for nvidia one for amd, I guess. You could enable multi monitor support and mirror desktop on both monitors. I have no idea how this will work. You may have to actually select the cards one at a time instead by turning on one monitor then turning off the other. Honestly, this seems extremely inconvenient. I guess if you only occasionally watched 3d content you could just do all this when you want to watch something and revert it after.

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Didn't I read people saying that the 1060 is just as good as the 2060, for running MadVR? I think they said there's no advantage using a 20 series, over the 10 series, for MadVR.

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10 series are not better in the sense that the RTX tensor cores of the 20 series "currently" don't help madvr. There has been talk that madshi may utilize them in the future.

But the 2060 definitely has more performance power than the 1060 and will thus allow better settings in madvr. Will one need that extra power is another question.

But the statement that 20 series doesn't add anything would only make sense with two comparable cards. Like the 2060 and 1080. Where gaming (madvr) performance is basically a wash.

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Can anyone send me any kind of guide for using two different gpus and how this would be set up? (does any article like this exist?)

Also (sorry for all the questions!) can anyone recommend a cpu/mobo combo to pair up with this setup for madvr?, thank you so much for your help.
I use a dual boot setup (for other purposes as well) with the old drivers installed on the other OS.
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10 series are not better in the sense that the RTX tensor cores of the 20 series "currently" don't help madvr. There has been talk that madshi may utilize them in the future.

But the 2060 definitely has more performance power than the 1060 and will thus allow better settings in madvr. Will one need that extra power is another question.

But the statement that 20 series doesn't add anything would only make sense with two comparable cards. Like the 2060 and 1080. Where gaming (madvr) performance is basically a wash.
Thanks for the explanation.

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Didn't I read people saying that the 1060 is just as good as the 2060, for running MadVR? I think they said there's no advantage using a 20 series, over the 10 series, for MadVR.

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2060 is significantly faster than the 1060 so it's better. This has nothing to do with 10 series vs. 20 series. Just that the 2060 is a much faster card than the 1060. 2060 is between 1070 and 1080 in performance.
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2060 is significantly faster than the 1060 so it's better. This has nothing to do with 10 series vs. 20 series. Just that the 2060 is a much faster card than the 1060. 2060 is between 1070 and 1080 in performance.
I wasn't saying that the 2060 wasn't better than the 1060. I was just saying that I thought I read it wasn't worth the money for the 2060, compared to the 1060, if using it solely for MadVR.

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I've started looking at used gaming PCs, because I figured if I'm going to spend 50 or 100 on a starter PC, then have to add a $400 card, I might find a gaming PC with a good card, for like $400. I found one for 400, and it has a 660 card in it. Will that perform well with MadVR?

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I found one for 400, and it has a 660 card in it. Will that perform well with MadVR?
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No. Lol.
Are there any 3 digit cards that are good for MadVR? I'm only familiar with 4 digit cards.

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I wasn't saying that the 2060 wasn't better than the 1060. I was just saying that I thought I read it wasn't worth the money for the 2060, compared to the 1060, if using it solely for MadVR.

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If you are going to be tone-mapping with madVR then the 1060 is the absolute, absolute minimum and with it you wont be able to do much else at the same time as tone-mapping.

The 2060 is definitely worth it over the 1060.
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If you are going to be tone-mapping with madVR then the 1060 is the absolute, absolute minimum and with it you wont be able to do much else at the same time as tone-mapping.



The 2060 is definitely worth it over the 1060.
Maybe I read the 2060 wasn't worth the more money over a 1080, not a 1060? Would that make sense?

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Maybe I read the 2060 wasn't worth the more money over a 1080, not a 1060? Would that make sense?

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No, the 2060 and 1080 should cost about the same.
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Just for some clarity. In regards to gaming 2060 is about 40% better than a 1060. So not a small bump.

According to tpu at least.


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No, the 2060 and 1080 should cost about the same.
This is what I read about the 20 series vs the 10 series.

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This is what I read about the 20 series vs the 10 series.

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It's true but it has nothing to do with what you were asking before.

Yes the 20 series is the same performance per watt as the 10 series.

All that means is that you should get the GPU that has the performance you need and also the best price per performance which the 2060 is pretty close to the top of price per performance as well as being fast enough to do the majority of madVR high quality processing.
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do any of you guys undervolt your gpu or do gpu thermal temps never really get to an uncomfortably high point when using madvr? i ask because i just undervolted the cpu (using intel's xtu utility) in my new htpc build and it has made a very big difference in cpu thermal temps, dropping the temps 15c+ during stress tests, and i read the same can be done with gpu as well altho i haven't tried it yet, and won't if the difference isn't particularly meaningful.
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do any of you guys undervolt your gpu
I do and underclock it, I limit my 1060 6GB at 1544 Mhz @0.800 V with MSI Afterburner: less heat -> less fan noise.

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I do and underclock it, I limit my 1060 6GB at 1544 Mhz @0.800 V with MSI Afterburner: less heat -> less fan noise.
very helpful, thanks, will give it a go!
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How do you use the external 3DLUT ? Do you need to add some files or something ?
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do any of you guys undervolt your gpu or do gpu thermal temps never really get to an uncomfortably high point when using madvr? i ask because i just undervolted the cpu (using intel's xtu utility) in my new htpc build and it has made a very big difference in cpu thermal temps, dropping the temps 15c+ during stress tests, and i read the same can be done with gpu as well altho i haven't tried it yet, and won't if the difference isn't particularly meaningful.
Heh, I overclock my 2060, more madVR power!

Buy my HTPC is not in the same room as my projector so noise is of no concern.
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Heh, I overclock my 2060, more madVR power!



Buy my HTPC is not in the same room as my projector so noise is of no concern.


Same here I have it overclocked to as high it can get before the GPU crashes.

But my pc is in a separate room so noise is not an issue


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Heh, I overclock my 2060, more madVR power!

Buy my HTPC is not in the same room as my projector so noise is of no concern.
me too, my htpc lives in a location where noise isn't an issue, but because i chose to use a mini case i want to manage thermals as much as possible - undervolting my cpu did a great job with this, without impacting cpu performance as far as i can tell, which is why i was thinking about giving it a go with the gpu... that said, i've been testing different madvr settings, trying to get more aggressive each time, and my gpu seems to be fine as is, under 50% utilization and 50c temp, but i haven't tried 60fps files yet or max madvr settings.
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Undervolt vs Overclock, what's better ?
I undervolt my gtx1060 to 0.900 V without a limitation of frequency clock (let afterburner manage it). I could lower the voltage to 0.850 V but realized more dropped frames by it.
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I undervolt my gtx1060 to 0.900 V without a limitation of frequency clock (let afterburner manage it). I could lower the voltage to 0.850 V but realized more dropped frames by it.


Depends what your going for. If your undervolting without losing stock clocks your doing pretty good.

But if you want more performance. Depending on tht card overclocking might not even add much heat if you don't need with the power settings.

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Depends what your going for. If your undervolting without losing stock clocks your doing pretty good.

But if you want more performance. Depending on tht card overclocking might not even add much heat if you don't need with the power settings.

this gpu clocking thing is such a mystery to me (a noob at pc tweaking), for example i was recently comparing card clock times and saw that the gtx 1080 has a 20% higher base clock than the 2080 ti and a 6% higher boost clock, yet the gtx 1080's performance is rated at just 61% of the 2080 ti... of course memory comes into play i assume, and the 2080 ti tops the gtx 1080 11gb to 8gb.
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