Originally Posted by mightyhuhn
i don't know the number but you can't avoid the royalties so most likely not.
royalties are brutal and you can't get around them you have to pay for everything you are using from dolby digital to HEVC and there is a high chance you have to pay royalties just to call it a blu ray. you need a new disk to make it a lot cheaper.
If disks go bye-bye, those that receive those royalities are going to lose everything. I'm sure they realize this. That should be adequate incentive to reduce those royalites dramatically .............unless, of course, those that benefit just happen to be the owners or investors in the streaming services, which IMO is a distinct possibility. So again back to the argument supporting the proposition that disks (and maybe movie theaters) are on life support ............... maybe intentionally so. Essentially, streaming services getting rid of the disk competition, then jack up subscriptions, go PPV, etc.
I'm trying to imagine a scheme to keep disks both alive and much less expensive that would not financially damage their producers. I'm thinking of something akin to vinyl records. I never knew anyone who made vinyl copies of records. However, those who wanted to keep their records pristine would buy a reel-to-reel tape recorder and record the analog output of the turntable's cartridge and then play the tape again and again. But what a PIA.
For commercial digital movies, how about a download service that would allow customers to download a huge commerical UHD movie file, only once, already decrypted, say in a MKV container, with the specific intent that the buyer could either burn it to a disk that could be played by computer optical drive / stand-alone player, or load it onto their server?
I suppose that the argument will be made that those who download the file could turn right around and "upload" it to millions of others, of course at a price. But the same argument could be made today about those who already rip UHD BDs and add the files to their servers. Are these
people already uploading/selling to others? Frankly, I don't know. Can anyone answer this question?
Can a "digital signature" be placed within a dowloaded file so that if a computer tries to upload
that file that that signature would be detected and that upload would be, for lack of a better expression, "squelched" or intentionally made uplayable or "undownloadable"? This limitation would be part of the contract that the initial buyer would have to agree to before downloading the file from the legitimate producer. I suppose this system could also be beaten by the initial buyer literally selling disks on the street or snail-mailing them rather than selling them via internet.
Even the streaming services are "vulnerable" to people sticking video cameras in front of their TVs and recording a movie or TV show and doing whatever with the resulting video file. Playback of that file will look pretty good on a small display for those more interested in content than PQ and audio quality --- also for those who don't want, or don't have the money, to pay for a streaming service. (If the streaming services manage to "corner the viewing market" -- in other words, drive all the competition out of business--- and jack up there prices dramatically, this phenomenon might actually become noticeable.)
Unlitmately, I guess the only way to rescue expensive commercial disks is for more, rather than fewer, people to buy expensive commercial disks. IMO the outlook isn't good. For the cost of one "hot" commercial UHD BD, you can buy a couple of months of essentially unlimited Netflix viewing. Which do you
think is the better bang for the buck, especially at a typical viewing distance?
IMO, even conversations like the one on this thread are going to become increasingly rare, "behind the times" and irrelevant.