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Unhappy HELP. 4K HDR videos plays on different players differently

I have pc with G4400, 4GB RAM, intel HD510, Non HDR FHD TV as a monitor
I get some 4K HDR rips in 2-4 GB sizes just to check HDR technology.
The problem is all these movies plays differently in different players

Bird Box : Plays without any load brilliantly in MPC:BE but lag in MPC:HC, VLC, KODI.
Grinch : Plays without any load in VLC but lag in MPC:HC, MPC:BE, KODI.
Blade Runner 2049 : Plays without any load but little washed in VLC but lag in MPC:HC, KODI, Audio cuts in MPC:BE

I am attaching media info of two of them as I have deleted Grinch.
Every player is updated latest version.

Please help me whats wrong.
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Are you using Windows HDR with all players? That is needed for HDR playback. What does the madVR OSD say during playback? Which queues are empty and what are the rendering times?
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Are you using Windows HDR with all players? What does the madVR OSD say during playback? Which queues are empty and what are the rendering times?
Thank you buddy for reply .
I dont have HDR capable TV so there is no option in windows setting to enable HDR
I have not much knowledge so I am attaching screenshots of madVR OSD while playing video.
I found colors of MPC:BE player to be much better for my liking.

Why Bird Box is playing smoothly in MPC:BE but other two are lagging.
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I think you might be running out of system RAM. What does Task Manager say about RAM usage during playback?

Try lowering the CPU queue to 6-8.
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I think you might be running out of system RAM. What does Task Manager say about RAM usage during playback?
Try lowering the CPU queue to 6-8.
I am attaching task manager screen shot for Bird Box and Blade Runner 2049 in MPC:BE, VLC, MPC:HC.

In MPC:BE bird box plays without any lag and I can scroll instantly but the blade runner is lagging.

VLC plays little washed out compared to MPC:HC and highly washed out compared to MPC:BE.

Bit rate of Bird Box is 4000kbps
Blade runner is 2000 kbps

I dont understand why a file with such a lower bit rate lagging.
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Assuming wikipedia is correct for QuickSync. Your processor or Skylake won't handle 10-bit HEVC well. The processor and QuickSync are used to decode the video instead of just QuickSync. You will need a processor upgrade that has at least a Kabylake processor or higher. Your processor can display 4K, but it won't be able to playback 4K video that has 10-bit HEVC. Instead of a processor upgrade, you can use a Radeon RX 550 or GeForce GTX 1050.
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Assuming wikipedia -- you can use a Radeon RX 550 or GeForce GTX 1050.
Thank you for kind suggestion .

Can you please help me with reason why Bird Box is playing effortlessly but Blade runner is lagging in MPC:BE?
I have directly installed MPC:BE and didnot changed anything.
I have attached mediainfo for both files in the first post.

Any solution for correct colors in Vlc?

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It may seem your setup is capable but the amount of time your computer is taking to render the videos is not within 24 frames per second or 41.667 millisecond. Also, CPU usage is 100% and you are not alarmed by that. Your computer doesn't have hardware video decoding for 10-bit HEVC. Again upgrade your computer.

VLC has its own video decoder compared to FFmpeg based media players. Use a video test disc to adjust the colors in VLC and FFmpeg based media player if you think they are wrong.
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