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Anti-Virus protection ?

I’m running Windows 7 with WMC. I was using Avast Free for anti-virus protection, but some time ago it started getting intrusive with too many messages. So I dropped back to using Windows Defender.

With Windows 7 support soon ending, Defender won’t get updates. I recall years ago a lot of people were using Defender. Is there any consensus of opinion regarding a replacement?


While I don’t use the HTPC for web browsing, sometimes I do connect to CBS.com, TNT.com, etc to watch a program & would like to have some protection. I have Malwarebytes but would also like something that offers real time protection.


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I use Chromebooks. Anti virus and malware protection are not needed at all.

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Sophos protection is pretty good and even free version has no popups whatsoever. The paid version gives you more protection, but in your instance, free is fine. Plus you can install/manage it on 10 devices.
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I use Chromebooks. Anti virus and malware protection are not needed at all.
Wow does your Chromebook have WMC? I didn't think so.....
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I’m running Windows 7 with WMC. I was using Avast Free for anti-virus protection, but some time ago it started getting intrusive with too many messages. So I dropped back to using Windows Defender.

With Windows 7 support soon ending, Defender won’t get updates. I recall years ago a lot of people were using Defender. Is there any consensus of opinion regarding a replacement?


While I don’t use the HTPC for web browsing, sometimes I do connect to CBS.com, TNT.com, etc to watch a program & would like to have some protection. I have Malwarebytes but would also like something that offers real time protection.


Thanks
I would suggest Panda Anti-Virus it's one of the few free antivirus solutions that doesn't inundate you with constant annoying BUY ME NOW messages. It is also one of the better rated ones too. If you want to be additionally secure I'd suggest adding Comodo Firewall to the mix as wel

---as to the guy who said Chromebook does not need anti-virus protection is a fool. It is a *nix based operating system, though there may not be as many Virus' in the wild, they surely do exist. People said the same thing about Android, Mac OSX, and IOS, yet today all three are constantly reporting apps that have viruses.
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Wow does your Chromebook have WMC? I didn't think so.....

He doesn't need WMC to connect to the websites that the OP mentioned, which was the reason why he is looking for an AV solution. WMC isn't even part of the conversation.
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He doesn't need WMC to connect to the websites that the OP mentioned, which was the reason why he is looking for an AV solution. WMC isn't even part of the conversation.
He's using the same machine to connect to those websites as the one with WMC. How is a Chromebook part of that conversation?
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I’m running Windows 7 with WMC. I was using Avast Free for anti-virus protection, but some time ago it started getting intrusive with too many messages. So I dropped back to using Windows Defender.

With Windows 7 support soon ending, Defender won’t get updates. I recall years ago a lot of people were using Defender. Is there any consensus of opinion regarding a replacement?


While I don’t use the HTPC for web browsing, sometimes I do connect to CBS.com, TNT.com, etc to watch a program & would like to have some protection. I have Malwarebytes but would also like something that offers real time protection.


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So I don't use WMC but there be might be a way to use W7, keep WMC and not worry too much about viruses. This would depend on how much you use WMC, your CPU and technical skills with PCs.


Switch to a Linux Distro and put your W7 install into a VM on that machine. Linux is a lot safer than any Windows version (I've seen notice of 2 viruses since switching to Linux Mint. Both of those were not relevant to me and my install), if you pick the right version (ie not Intel's Clear or Unbuntu) there's pretty much no snooping happening (remembering to toggle that off in FF) and your machine will run just as good, if not better, than it did before.


I will not use W10, so Linux was my next stop and my Gen 3 I7 had the VM option. Plus I could take a snapshot of my W7 VM install and blow that away should it acquire a nasty.



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He's using the same machine to connect to those websites as the one with WMC. How is a Chromebook part of that conversation?
Clearly it was just being offered as an alternative solution to connect to websites without the need to use an AV program. It's not the answer the OP was looking for, but there it is.

As for AV programs, I think most of the free ones will do what you want. I would avoid ESET NOD32 or Kaspersky simply because they can interfere with WMC and cause problems. They're both great AV programs otherwise.
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Clearly it was just being offered as an alternative solution to connect to websites without the need to use an AV program. It's not the answer the OP was looking for, but there it is.

As for AV programs, I think most of the free ones will do what you want. I would avoid ESET NOD32 or Kaspersky simply because they can interfere with WMC and cause problems. They're both great AV programs otherwise.
What would be best is if Microsoft would have supported Media Center under Windows 10. Then he could just upgrade to the later operating system.
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AFAIK, pretty much every player in the consumer security software market is dropping or has dropped support for systems that pre-date Windows 8 and their software won't work properly on older systems,if it even installs. Enterprise A-V might continue support for a little bit longer, but I wouldn't count on anything past 2021.
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It's been awhile, but I was really happy with Bitdefender Free after switching from Avast for the same reason.

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I've been using only MSE (Microsoft Security Essentials) for years now. I was using Avast, but it became bloated and started causing performance issues (many years ago), so I switched to MSE and never looked back. Whether or not it still gets updated after official Win7 supports ends I don't know. But I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

In any case, my WMC machine isn't used to access the internet.
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Wow does your Chromebook have WMC? I didn't think so.....
I have no clue what WMC is and since I have been using Chromebooks for seven years and I have never needed it then it doesn't matter to me.

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I use Chromebooks. Anti virus and malware protection are not needed at all.

How would I use a Chromebook as an HTPC that lets me record TV programs????
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I use WMC (Windows Medis Center) all the time in order to record TV programs.

I was going to add MSE (Microsoft Security Essentials) but thought why not use a third party anti-virus since that’s what going to be needed anyway in a few months.

I use Norton on my desktop PC & could add it onto the HTPC. It does have popup messages every so often which are not an issue with the PC. However sometimes it says a performance scan or something to that effect has just been completed & I don’t know if that would affect a recording in progress.

It looks like others have also stopped using Avast.

Biutdefender gets good reviews. I tried the paid version several years ago on my PC & it updated 6-10 times a day and the PC would lock up when this was happening, so I removed it. I haven’t heard about such issues lately & might try the free version.

Thanks for all the comments & suggestions.
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How would I use a Chromebook as an HTPC that lets me record TV programs????
If you use YouTubeTV they automatically record anything you want with unlimited space. No need to buy a big hard drive.

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If you are just connecting to websites through Chrome and not running unknown software from random websites, an ad blocker is what you really need on that machine. Most infections these days are coming in from software you get tricked into running, or malicious ads that either run stuff without you knowing, or, again, trick you into running it. An ad blocker will prevent most of those situations. I recommend uBlock Origin.
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I pay for comcast/xfinity and it comes with free norton av for 5 pc's I think. https://www.xfinity.com/support/arti...security-suite


I think its usa law for major internet providers to give free av

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If you use YouTubeTV they automatically record anything you want with unlimited space. No need to buy a big hard drive.

YouTubeTV doesn't have some of the channels I watch & I use satellite. The HTPC is for OTA recording in case all the satellite tuners are in use.
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YouTubeTV doesn't have some of the channels I watch & I use satellite. The HTPC is for OTA recording in case all the satellite tuners are in use.
Well then don't get a Chromebook. I don't care.

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Well then don't get a Chromebook. I don't care.

I have a Chromebook & it's great. But it doesn't cut it as an HTPC.
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I have always used AVGfree. It does have a few popups a few times a month. I find the ISP provided Norton to be a resource hog as was Avast. But I also suspect Win7 most likely will be unsupported soon but I could be wrong. I finally gave up on Win7 and WMC but it is sorely missed. I would think who ever owns the rights to WMC could release a standalone version and make a lot of $ but if it's Microsoft they have so much money they couldn't care less and it would only be a drop in their bottomless pockets.

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