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New PC build for video encoding

Looking to build a new PC to replace my aging i7-950. The main function will be re-encoding my BD discs to manageable 1080 or 4K MKVs. Right now it takes on average 2-3hrs for a full BD to 10Mbps 1080p MKV with h264. I tried to encode an h265 file and it was estimated to be 12-15hrs! I'd like to now build a new machine that will really handle those encodes well plus have the ability for some light gaming. I don't game on my PC much anymore but gaming at 1080p is fine with me. This PC will also serve as my Plex server (but not media storage). I started looking at building an AMD Ryzen 7 3700X machine due to the lower cost but I've never built anything other than Intel machines in the past. Look forward to any suggestions.
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Looking to build a new PC to replace my aging i7-950. The main function will be re-encoding my BD discs to manageable 1080 or 4K MKVs. Right now it takes on average 2-3hrs for a full BD to 10Mbps 1080p MKV with h264. I tried to encode an h265 file and it was estimated to be 12-15hrs! I'd like to now build a new machine that will really handle those encodes well plus have the ability for some light gaming. I don't game on my PC much anymore but gaming at 1080p is fine with me. This PC will also serve as my Plex server (but not media storage). I started looking at building an AMD Ryzen 7 3700X machine due to the lower cost but I've never built anything other than Intel machines in the past. Look forward to any suggestions.
I would personally go Ryzen if I was building right now. My desktop is a Ryzen (2600) and my server is as well (1800x)

Let me first say why not just invest money in hard drives and not encode the files. Thats the norm these days people just turn the discs into MKV's and store them full quality.

But if you insist on encoding them I would look into hardware encoding (with the GPU)

My little 1050ti can emcode h265 at like 150 fps! Compared to the 8 fps the cpu will do. Yes those numbers are correct. Using the cpu is a bit better quality, but I have learned once the settings are dialed in it can look just as good.

As far as a gpu 1080p gaming is pretty easy. Kind of matters what you want to spend. A 1660 from Nvidia would do good at 1080p. If you are building a nice rig might be smart to grab something like a 2060 so that you have some breathing room with new games. Good luck.

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I would personally go Ryzen if I was building right now. My desktop is a Ryzen (2600) and my server is as well (1800x)

Let me first say why not just invest money in hard drives and not encode the files. Thats the norm these days people just turn the discs into MKV's and store them full quality.

But if you insist on encoding them I would look into hardware encoding (with the GPU)

My little 1050ti can emcode h265 at like 150 fps! Compared to the 8 fps the cpu will do. Yes those numbers are correct. Using the cpu is a bit better quality, but I have learned once the settings are dialed in it can look just as good.

As far as a gpu 1080p gaming is pretty easy. Kind of matters what you want to spend. A 1660 from Nvidia would do good at 1080p. If you are building a nice rig might be smart to grab something like a 2060 so that you have some breathing room with new games. Good luck.
MKV containers do not store everything (some navigation elements, dolbyvision, etc.) .iso is a full image of the original.

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I would personally go Ryzen if I was building right now. My desktop is a Ryzen (2600) and my server is as well (1800x)

Let me first say why not just invest money in hard drives and not encode the files. Thats the norm these days people just turn the discs into MKV's and store them full quality.

But if you insist on encoding them I would look into hardware encoding (with the GPU)

My little 1050ti can emcode h265 at like 150 fps! Compared to the 8 fps the cpu will do. Yes those numbers are correct. Using the cpu is a bit better quality, but I have learned once the settings are dialed in it can look just as good.

As far as a gpu 1080p gaming is pretty easy. Kind of matters what you want to spend. A 1660 from Nvidia would do good at 1080p. If you are building a nice rig might be smart to grab something like a 2060 so that you have some breathing room with new games. Good luck.
Unfortunately, the quality of Pascal based GPU encode of h265 isn't very good. The turing encoders are a lot better, but not quite as good as the good old x265 software encoder. I got GTX 1660's just for turing video encoder.

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Unfortunately, the quality of Pascal based GPU encode of h265 isn't very good. The turing encoders are a lot better, but not quite as good as the good old x265 software encoder. I got GTX 1660's just for turing video encoder.


Yes the chip was upgraded when it comes to Turing. But I believe in regards to handbrake you just gain bframe support.

I had a 2060 and didn't see much difference.

Took me a little while to get my settings where I like them but I cent tell the difference now between Pascal and x265 when I do side by side encodes.

It may take a little more bitrate and size for the nvenc encode to match software but the load that it takes off of my server CPU is well worth it.

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