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Help regarding HTPC 4k i7 3770 or i3 7100

Hey guys, hope everyone is well
In the middle of building a theatre room at parents place.
Hes recently purchased a SONY 4K vpl-vw260es projector that can display upto 4096 x 2160/50p4, 4096 x 2160/60p4

The room will mainly be used for tv watching, movie watching and sports watching. No games, it would only be played for games if i went there. The only games mum and dad will play is casino slots lol

So ive decided to build him a HTPC with some left over parts i have lying around. As they are awesome as universal player. Netflex, backed up movies, 265 formats, youtube, blueray, etc.
I will be using HDMI port. As it will go to the amp, and from the amp to the projector. Will be using MPC-HC for 4k playback where possible

I did the same for myself about 3 years ago. I used a HP SFF 8200 i7, 32gb ram (i know crazy overkill with ram) with a Gigabyte SFF 1050ti. However im only outputting to a old plasma 50 inch at 1080p. It plays every format i throw at it (not sure about 265 tho) , works brilliant, no lag, doesnt miss a beat. While i know it is overkill, i rather have more power than not enough, and i was actually able to play a few of the modern games a couple years back when i a went to a friends small lan. (obviously not on crazy settings, but it was enough for me)

Parents build however being 4K, is a little tougher and more demanding
Ive had a look at what i have,

First combo
Ive got a i3 7100 with a ASUS PRIME B250M-Plus Currently has 2 x 4gb ddr4
According to specs this can only output at 4K at 24p if using the onboard intel hdmi
This board has 4xddr4 dimm slots for ram

Second combo
ive got a i7 3770 with a ASROCK H77M Currently has 2 x 4gb ddr3
I know this guy will not be able to handle 4k playback straight from the onboard intel hdmi.
This board has 2xddr3 dimm slots for ram

I also have a Gainward GTX660 here but i checked that specs on nvidia and 3840x2160 at 30Hz or 4096x2160 at 24Hz supported over HDMI

While i think most movies are in 24hz, i think its a good idea to build the pc to allow it to throw 60hz?

Now im not trying to build this pc with ONLY what i have.
That is not the case, i know i will need to get some stuff, but it be good if i can use the cpu/mobo combo i have as a base

I was planning to upgrade either system to 16gb of ram and also get a 1050ti, or the new equivelant to that. But seeing alot of people admiring the onboard gen7 intel graphics.. (but it seems thats only 24hz)

Now i know the gen3 i7 is dated and has less instructions but being its got more cores, cache etc gives it more power and brings it up to speed near and many times past the i3 gen7. And its dating i believe is more got to do with the onboard graphics?

Which system do you guys recommend? Does playback of 4k movies use the extra cores of the cpu?
Will the i7 overall be a little quicker and nicer to use while not playing the movies. (eg multiple programs open, moving files from network, browsing, etc)

On the compare cpus pages, the i7 seems to be the way to go except the new i3 is a touch quicker on single core applications.
However i have no idea what uses single or multi core, or understand the benefits of extra cache etc.


ALSO i am HEAVILY outdated with technology....4k, UHD and all these other terms!, so if i am going on the wrong path or something i am missing and if you have a different opinion of which way i should go.. please say so!

Thanks heaps in advance guys,
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The sony260es specs are



Computer signal input
Maximum display resolution: 1920 x 1080 dots (HDMI Input only)


Video signal input
480/60p, 576/50p, 720/60p, 720/50p, 1080/60i, 1080/50i, 1080/60p, 1080/50p, 1080/24p, 3840 x 2160/24p, 3840 x 2160/25p, 3840 x 2160/30p, 3840 x 2160/50p*4, 3840 x 2160/60p*4, 4096 x 2160/24p, 4096 x 2160/25p, 4096 x 2160/30p, 4096 x 2160/50p*4, 4096 x 2160/60p*4


So I got a little worried when i seen this, thinking i can only output at 1080p
But a little research on avforums, multiple guys who own this projector have stated
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"just to be clear there is NO issue with 4k content at 50/60p 8bit, it is displayed absolutely fine.

There is only a problem with intermittent banding on some content at 4k 50/60p 10bit HDR. The HDMI 13.5Gbps bandwidth is sufficient for content at 4k 50/60p 10bit 4:2:0 and that is what the projector accepts as input from the source. Unfortunately there is an internal processing limitation which causes 10bit HDR at 4k 50/60p to be down sampled to 8bit which causes the problem.

The solution is to either reduce the resolution to 1080p, the framerate to 24/25/30p or output SDR to avoid the problem with games etc.

You need to be careful with streaming boxes/players as some will force output at 60p even with 24p content. No real problem as long as you pick one which allows native output as all the major netflix/prime TV series are 24p. Movie content from UHD blu-ray is fine unless you really insist on watching Billy Lynn!"


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"According to specification, a 4:2:0 4k60p is possible. By default, your 4k PC is not doing that, though. It's sending out RGB 4k60p, that's not supported by this projector. Nor is 4:4:4 8 bit 4k60p."


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"That sounds about right, there is only support for full chroma bandwidth (4:4:4) up to 4096/3840x2160 @30p."


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"You don't have to use RBG, Nvidia Control Panel allows you to use any chroma you want, including 4:2:0.
Also I don't know if in videogames full chroma will make a difference in video quality."


Hope this gives a little more information, cause its a little over my head
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In general I think you need to make a decision on how you want to decode the 4k, whether software, CPU, or GPU. Codecs will usually present a list of options so you can play around with what gives you the best performance. I personally like to have as many options open as possible and I'd go for a hardware solution. To start with go with a Ryzen processor with an X470 chipset mobo. The Ryzen 5 3600 would be fine but to ease the load go for a 7. Save money and a lot of the specs beat a comparable Intel. I don't mess around with Intel any more. They got their rear ends handed to them when AMD decided to bury them with Ryzen. Not going to go into a debate though, plenty of specs and comparisons online. For the card I'd go with a GTX 1080. I think the 1070 will handle it but the 1080 would give you a little more headroom. Throw in 16 gigs of RAM. I usually go for a speed that is natively supported by the board then go in for some OC fun. For storage, look to a M2 NVMe drive for lightening quick file access and transfer. Add a WD Blue drive for other mass storage for movies and music and you'll be in great shape. If you don't already have a case then look for a mid tower with good 120mm fans. They will spin slower and still move a good amount of air. From where I sit now I can't hear my case fans at all but I've also got a closed loop liquid radiator from Corsair for the CPU. That being said, if the PC isn't going to be in the same area then you can do whatever you want for cooling.

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EDIT: The projector talk is over my head so I'm sorry I can't be of help with that.
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thanks for your reply Gary.
in terms of choosing which way to decode i assume you mean

software = CPU power


Hardware = GPU power


If thats correct, i defenitely prefer to go the GPU way, i think its the better way to go.


Ive havnt kept up with AMD, the last AMD i ever had was back in AMD athlon days lol


Ive got a case here that has 5 PWM 120mm fans, so that will work perfectly.
And i think you mgiht be right in going for a 1080 card


With that combo do you still recommend going the ryzon? Only reason im asking is cause i have on hand the intel cpus and boards i mentioned in my post
Thanks again Gary
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All that matters is the Video card as the cpu just needs to run Win10 efficiently. GTX 1050ti is the bare minimum.
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Well again, a lot of codecs have options for the methods by which the 4k is passed along. Some of the options allow the CPU to do some work. I have found that a good processor offers more options as I said in my response. Certainly a more powerful processor will help with file transfer, which is good to have as 4k files can be quite large depending on settings if they are ripped. Multitasking is also obviously dependent on the processor.

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Gary almost certainly has far greater technical expertise on this than I do, but to me, his suggestions are overkill for an HTPC. Hell, a Ryzen 5 + 1080 is a pretty decent gaming rig and would be quite expensive, as you'd basically have to start from scratch.

To put it into perspective, I have a Ryzen 3600 on an x570 board with 16gb of ram and a 1070 and can play back 4k HDR content perfectly fine at 24hz. At 60hz, its a bit sketchy, but I don't really have good source material to test (some works fine some doesnt). On my previous system, I had an i5-2500k with the same 1070 and only 8gb of ram. Even then, I could still play 4k HDR content perfectly fine, as the gpu did most of the work (I assume).

You also have to consider how often your parents will be playing 4k content. If its just 1080p or less typically, onboard graphics on your cpu will handle it fine and you don't need a fancy gpu (at least this was the case with my 2500k before I got my 1070). Idk how competent your parents are with tech, but I know many people who wouldn't be able to tell the difference between 4k and 1080p (HDR is the bigger difference maker imo). That said, its probably best to plan for the future and play it safe, but your best bet may just be to invest in a gpu. Idk whether the 1050ti will cut it (not saying it wont, I honestly don't know) but I think it'd work fine with the i7 cpu you already have (assuming the board has room for a gpu).
The other issue with going with an amd build is that none of the ryzen chips have onboard graphics (afaik). So if the gpu dies, the HTPC is useless until you get a new gpu. At least with an i7 build, you can still use the htpc with onboard graphics.
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thanks for your reply Gary.
in terms of choosing which way to decode i assume you mean

software = CPU power


Hardware = GPU power


If thats correct, i defenitely prefer to go the GPU way, i think its the better way to go.


Ive havnt kept up with AMD, the last AMD i ever had was back in AMD athlon days lol


Ive got a case here that has 5 PWM 120mm fans, so that will work perfectly.
And i think you mgiht be right in going for a 1080 card


With that combo do you still recommend going the ryzon? Only reason im asking is cause i have on hand the intel cpus and boards i mentioned in my post
Thanks again Gary
You have it right about CPU and GPU usage.
@jayf95 has good input. The only thing I want to clarify is that there are indeed Ryzen chips that have integrated graphics. Some have the Vega GPU cores, pretty darned fast for an integrated solution. I wouldn't at all be worried about integrated graphics going out. If the graphics go out you'll lose the whole CPU and that's really not more likely than if your CPU died without having integrated graphics. Cooling is key, always has been. Sounds like you've got a good number of fans. I'd recommend a push-pull to move a lot of air through the case.

I am an Athlon convert. I used to be an Intel guy until AMD decided to knock them off. You certainly go with your i7, that's probably plenty of power for 24 Hz, I just don't know about pushing 60. I'm not familiar with your boards but if you just want to go with a new card then the 1080 would be a great idea. I'm not sure about your PCIe lanes on those boards. Ideally you want to hook into the highest number you can get into. A new board will also give you access to potentially blistering transfer rates with the M2 NVMe, which is easily significantly faster than any SATA connection. Those boards don't have to be very expensive. I've got one machine here I built that is just an ASRock B450 board that ran me about $80 if I'm remembering correctly. Pair that with a Ryzen 5 2400G and you're rolling.

The reason I recommend a whole new machine is simply to give yourself some additional headroom. You could sell those 2 CPUs and use the money for a faster Ryzen. I like to try to build my machines so that I don't feel like I need to upgrade them every other year. Also as mentioned if you end up wanting to run 4k at a higher refresh rate you'll need a bit more power.
Or you could just go with a Threadripper with a X570 chipset mobo and a Nvidia Titan RTX and blow everything out of the water!

So you've got a ton of potential solutions. Any additional thoughts on which solution you are going to go with?
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Sorry for the late replys guys,
Ironically, i had massive pc trouble this week on my work pc.
Printer all of sudden would not print anymore.... after 9 hours of trying different drivers, network settings etc. I worked out its because win 10 auto updated 2 days ago and has a bug for Brother branded printers.. and i needed the printer for work..... i cant explain the amount of swearing that happened the last few days. lol


Thanks Rekbones, i think the way to go is spending the money on the GPU

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You have it right about CPU and GPU usage.
@jay has good input. The only thing I want to clarify is that there are indeed Ryzen chips that have integrated graphics. Some have the Vega GPU cores, pretty darned fast for an integrated solution. I wouldn't at all be worried about integrated graphics going out. If the graphics go out you'll lose the whole CPU and that's really not more likely than if your CPU died without having integrated graphics. Cooling is key, always has been. Sounds like you've got a good number of fans. I'd recommend a push-pull to move a lot of air through the case.

I am an Athlon convert. I used to be an Intel guy until AMD decided to knock them off. You certainly go with your i7, that's probably plenty of power for 24 Hz, I just don't know about pushing 60. I'm not familiar with your boards but if you just want to go with a new card then the 1080 would be a great idea. I'm not sure about your PCIe lanes on those boards. Ideally you want to hook into the highest number you can get into. A new board will also give you access to potentially blistering transfer rates with the M2 NVMe, which is easily significantly faster than any SATA connection. Those boards don't have to be very expensive. I've got one machine here I built that is just an ASRock B450 board that ran me about $80 if I'm remembering correctly. Pair that with a Ryzen 5 2400G and you're rolling.

The reason I recommend a whole new machine is simply to give yourself some additional headroom. You could sell those 2 CPUs and use the money for a faster Ryzen. I like to try to build my machines so that I don't feel like I need to upgrade them every other year. Also as mentioned if you end up wanting to run 4k at a higher refresh rate you'll need a bit more power.
Or you could just go with a Threadripper with a X570 chipset mobo and a Nvidia Titan RTX and blow everything out of the water!

So you've got a ton of potential solutions. Any additional thoughts on which solution you are going to go with?

Thanks for your help Gary. Also i got the case wrong... the case i have here does 5 x 120mm fans.. but im going to have to change that to go a smaller depth case. The new case has 1 x 120mm and 3 x 140mm .. so i think that will still be ok, what do you think? And your definitely right, cooling is the most important thing.. i always max out the cases with fans.

Case is a coolermaster NR400. Havnt bought yet but will when im getting ready to build it. I picked this because it is only 411 deep, which will suit the 450mm cabinet its going in, and has 4 x 3.5 hdd spots + spots for 2.5 ssd... and funny enough.. it has a spot for the cdrom. So many cases dont have them these days.



The mboard i got here for the gen 3 i7 is an Asrock H77m.
Just checked out the specs. Its got 1 x PCIE 3.0 x 16. Thats perfect as 1050 ti, 1070, and 1080 is PCIE 3.0 x 16
That works well. And the case graphics card length supports upto 346mm . so far.. everything is going to plan.. im waiting for the hiccup somewhere


I wasnt planning on going the M2 NVME way, i think that might be a little further than id want to go.

For transfer of files, it doesnt worry me it has to wait a little longer to transfer the file, but will Sata 3 and sata 2 keep up with playing the video file?
So with getting a 1070,80 card, and the older i7, im pretty confident it will play the 24hz without hiccups.

Im gonna ask a dumb question now. What runs at the hz from 24 to 60hz?


You are right about not wanting to upgrade them all the time.... believe me i fully agree.. with me.. its not so much building them.. its the installing of the software. Oh man it takes a good 2 days to go through and install everything from fresh. If i didnt have these parts here, i would straight just get all new gear and be done with it.. but being i have them.. if i can make them work fine.. i might aswell use them..





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Gary almost certainly has far greater technical expertise on this than I do, but to me, his suggestions are overkill for an HTPC. Hell, a Ryzen 5 + 1080 is a pretty decent gaming rig and would be quite expensive, as you'd basically have to start from scratch.

To put it into perspective, I have a Ryzen 3600 on an x570 board with 16gb of ram and a 1070 and can play back 4k HDR content perfectly fine at 24hz. At 60hz, its a bit sketchy, but I don't really have good source material to test (some works fine some doesnt). On my previous system, I had an i5-2500k with the same 1070 and only 8gb of ram. Even then, I could still play 4k HDR content perfectly fine, as the gpu did most of the work (I assume).

You also have to consider how often your parents will be playing 4k content. If its just 1080p or less typically, onboard graphics on your cpu will handle it fine and you don't need a fancy gpu (at least this was the case with my 2500k before I got my 1070). Idk how competent your parents are with tech, but I know many people who wouldn't be able to tell the difference between 4k and 1080p (HDR is the bigger difference maker imo). That said, its probably best to plan for the future and play it safe, but your best bet may just be to invest in a gpu. Idk whether the 1050ti will cut it (not saying it wont, I honestly don't know) but I think it'd work fine with the i7 cpu you already have (assuming the board has room for a gpu).
The other issue with going with an amd build is that none of the ryzen chips have onboard graphics (afaik). So if the gpu dies, the HTPC is useless until you get a new gpu. At least with an i7 build, you can still use the htpc with onboard graphics.

Thanks for your input, its a big help to be able to compare a very similiar pc. Much apreciated

I too am suprised of how much power is needed to play the 4k. I thought if you were encoding it or playing games, yes fully understand the need of the power.... i just didnt realise how much power you actually needed to play them


I be honost with you.. i barely tell the difference between 1080 and 4k and i barely tell the difference between 720 and 1080 . Or its just im not bothered by it and 720 is enough for me... but i am talkin about on my 50 inch plasma screen... obviously the larger the screen the better the quality needs to be. What i am fussy on.. and stupidly fussy is sound.

I will watch a bad video quality movie no problems, but I cannot watch a bad sound quality movie.



Ill be honost, i dont know if my parents will see the different between the 1080 and 4k, but the reason i am gearing up for the 4k, is because the projector does 4K. And while they might not watch every movie in 4K, it would be such a waste to have a projector that can handle 4k and not have the player that can play the projector at its potential when they would like to.



Second stupid question for this post..
Can you please explain 4k and 4k HDR.


I am so confused by the two. I thought 4k = HDR..., but now im just realising 4k = UHD
Can you guys explain to this outdated caveman the difference


Thanks again for you help guys
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I'll go ahead and enumerate some of your points and questions to make it easier.
1. Fans are fine, the bigger the better. I use a Cooler Master 500P Mesh, which has dual 200mm front fans.

2. You're right, finding a case with a 3.5 exterior is becoming harder and harder to find.

3. Sata 3 transfer rates are perfectly fine. I think Sata 2 would also be fine but certainly if you have an option of the 2 obviously go with the speedier connection.
4. I'm not sure about all of the different streaming services and/or players that go 24Hz vs 60. I wouldn't worry about it too much, it just goes to the point that having a little extra power is desirable.
5. It can indeed be difficult to see the difference between HD and UHD. All comes down to sitting difference from the screen as far as I'm concerned. At longer distances I can't see the difference either.
6. HDR has to do with lighting. You'll hear about 2 competing formats, HDR and Dolby Vision. Both allow a greater color range/depth and higher bright/dark contrast. You will DEFINITELY see a big difference with those formats and a standard signal. If you Google SDR vs HDR you'll see some videos and/or screenshots of the differences. Drastic IMO. Once you see something in SDR then the same thing in HDR you'll not ever want to see much in SDR because you'l be thinking about what you're missing. Here's a link to a pic that is a great example (sorry I don't know how to title a link to make it shorter):
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I'll go ahead and enumerate some of your points and questions to make it easier.
1. Fans are fine, the bigger the better. I use a Cooler Master 500P Mesh, which has dual 200mm front fans.

2. You're right, finding a case with a 3.5 exterior is becoming harder and harder to find.

3. Sata 3 transfer rates are perfectly fine. I think Sata 2 would also be fine but certainly if you have an option of the 2 obviously go with the speedier connection.
4. I'm not sure about all of the different streaming services and/or players that go 24Hz vs 60. I wouldn't worry about it too much, it just goes to the point that having a little extra power is desirable.
5. It can indeed be difficult to see the difference between HD and UHD. All comes down to sitting difference from the screen as far as I'm concerned. At longer distances I can't see the difference either.
6. HDR has to do with lighting. You'll hear about 2 competing formats, HDR and Dolby Vision. Both allow a greater color range/depth and higher bright/dark contrast. You will DEFINITELY see a big difference with those formats and a standard signal. If you Google SDR vs HDR you'll see some videos and/or screenshots of the differences. Drastic IMO. Once you see something in SDR then the same thing in HDR you'll not ever want to see much in SDR because you'l be thinking about what you're missing. Here's a link to a pic that is a great example (sorry I don't know how to title a link to make it shorter):



Thanks buddy,
I think you are right in having more than needed regarding the hertz
Your case looks like a beast!

That link didnt work, but i googles hdr vs sdr... and wow.. i can see what you mean by the color.
So realistically there is 4k SDR and also 4K HDR and also 4k Dolby vision.
The projector dad bought luckily does HDR, i dont see any mention of dolby vision on it however.
So when they mention



Thanks for clearing that up for me Gary, alot easier to understand now.

So HDR = 10 bit?
And 8 bit is SDR?


And is chromo bandwith related to HDR and SDR eg 4:4:4
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Yes, the case is pretty awesome, my first tempered glass case. Love it. The CPU cooler is a Corsair closed loop liquid with triple 120 fans up top. 120 on the back and of course the giants up front. Dead quiet and oooooo, pretty lights!
Anyway, yes you've got it right SDR=8 bits, HDR=10 bits. The color depth is extremely noticeable. Sort of like when we used to watch movies through a stereo. Then with surround. Then with a sub. The differences are huge and once you watch some HDR material the SDR stuff will stand out to you (and vice versa, of course).

Dolby Vision is a competitor to HDR. Sort of like DTS vs. DD. Same idea, different execution.

Chroma subsampling stretches what I know and understand.

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Yes, the case is pretty awesome, my first tempered glass case. Love it. The CPU cooler is a Corsair closed loop liquid with triple 120 fans up top. 120 on the back and of course the giants up front. Dead quiet and oooooo, pretty lights!
Anyway, yes you've got it right SDR=8 bits, HDR=10 bits. The color depth is extremely noticeable. Sort of like when we used to watch movies through a stereo. Then with surround. Then with a sub. The differences are huge and once you watch some HDR material the SDR stuff will stand out to you (and vice versa, of course).

Dolby Vision is a competitor to HDR. Sort of like DTS vs. DD. Same idea, different execution.

Chroma subsampling stretches what I know and understand.



I remember the days guys used to be small neons in their cases lol
fully understand, thankyou for putting into english for me!
theres so much abbreviations and brands these days, easy to get lost!
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I remember the days guys used to be small neons in their cases lol
fully understand, thankyou for putting into english for me!
theres so much abbreviations and brands these days, easy to get lost!
It is very easy to get lost in all of it, no doubt. It can be really confusing!
I remember when getting lights in a case was so amazing. Now it's sort of hard to find components that don't have RGB lighting. I almost went for full blown RGB then asked myself why bother. The card, mobo, case, and cooler came with the lights so I didn't pay extra. I'll tell you, the ASUS RGB lighting control is pretty fantastic, fully programmable. I have mine set for a rainbow sweep. This pic just happened to catch it on blue. The only thing I don't like about an all glass case is that you have to be super methodical with wiring so it doesn't look like a mess.
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7.2.6 system. Monoprice HTP-1. JBL 590 fronts and 520 center all driven by a Bryston 6BST. 530 surrounds and NHT Superzero Atmos heights, all driven by 2 Bryston 9BSTs. Twin GSG Audio Devastators with LaVoce 214 drivers and pushed with a Behringer NX6000D amp. 2019 75" Vizio P-series Quantum.
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It is very easy to get lost in all of it, no doubt. It can be really confusing!
I remember when getting lights in a case was so amazing. Now it's sort of hard to find components that don't have RGB lighting. I almost went for full blown RGB then asked myself why bother. The card, mobo, case, and cooler came with the lights so I didn't pay extra. I'll tell you, the ASUS RGB lighting control is pretty fantastic, fully programmable. I have mine set for a rainbow sweep. This pic just happened to catch it on blue. The only thing I don't like about an all glass case is that you have to be super methodical with wiring so it doesn't look like a mess.



Nice pic! Love how they highlight the brand on the card and cooler
Its good to be neat with the wiring however, because i believe helps with the airflow. Funny you say about the lighting, when i bught the 120mm pwm fans for dads case, i actually wanted them with no lighting (to minimize light in theatre).... couldnt get them or it was going to cost more to get them without lights. Leds have come a long long way
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Nice pic! Love how they highlight the brand on the card and cooler
Its good to be neat with the wiring however, because i believe helps with the airflow. Funny you say about the lighting, when i bught the 120mm pwm fans for dads case, i actually wanted them with no lighting (to minimize light in theatre).... couldnt get them or it was going to cost more to get them without lights. Leds have come a long long way
Yessir they have. Glad to hear you are going to be able to put together a good HTPC!

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I wont be able to test it yet, the room is still undergoing the works
I tell you .. so much organizing and preparing in this room. Ive never had to forward think so much. Im not goijng to buy the gpu until the room is done, as technology moves so fast pricing for the gpus might go down a little.

I reckon another 2 months and the room should be done. If i remember i will post back and let you know how it goes.
thanks for your help all
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