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Samsung Announces UBD-K8500 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player



The launch window for the player is set for early next year. It will sport a curved design, UHD streaming apps, and cost under $500.

There's plenty of news coming out of the IFA electronics show in Berlin, and one tasty tidbit from today was Samsung's official unveiling of a new Ultra HD Blu-ray player.

Engadget reports that Samsung announced the new UBD-K8500 Ultra HD Blu-ray player should be available in Europe sometime in early 2016. At the same press event, Fox Studios pledged its support to the format by promising to release Ultra HD Blu-rays featuring HDR (high dynamic range) content on the same day-and-date schedule as cloud-based formats and HD Blu-ray. Currently, announced titles for the new format include Fantastic Four, Kingsman: The Secret Service, and Maze Runner—with more to come.

In addition to introducing the new player, Samsung announced that a firmware update will add HDMI 2.0a support to its 2015 UHD and SUHD TVs. HDMI 2.0a compatibility is crucial to ensuring compatibility with HDR UHD content.

"Samsung's Ultra HD Blu-ray player is curved to match its TVs, and also includes some UHD streaming services. The other news today at IFA is that Samsung's TVs will be the first ones getting a software update to support HDMI 2.0a, necessary to receive HDR info from the new Blu-ray players." - Engadget

CNET reports that the cost of the new Ultra HD Blu-ray discs will be (approximately) $30/each, and that Samsung cites delays in setting the Ultra HD Blu-ray standards for the late launch of its new player.

"A Samsung product manager told CNET the device will launch in the first quarter instead of later this year because of a delay in setting the standards for UHD Blu-ray products." - CNET

It looks like the next generation of home entertainment is finally ready for its big debut, and based on the reports coming out of IFA, CES 2016 is where it's all going to come together. Are you looking forward to Ultra HD Blu-ray?


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and so it begins... I wont even consider buying this or any other consumer 4k bluray player until its under the $200 mark so I have a while, unless its Oppo, I could be willing to spend more on them lol, cant wait to see what they releases.

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Are you looking forward to Ultra HD Blu-ray?

Yes I am.

I was hoping there might be news with Oppo but so far nothing.

I truly might look at Samsung when it arrives
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and so it begins...so I have a while, unless its Oppo, I could be willing to spend more them lol, cant wait to see what they releases.
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I was hoping there might be news with Oppo but so far nothing.
I spoke to OPPO a couple months ago....their UHD players are tentatively due out in the 2nd half of 2016, probably to coincide with CEDIA if I had to guess.
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I spoke to OPPO a couple months ago....their UHD players are tentatively due out in the 2nd half of 2016, probably to coincide with CEDIA if I had to guess.
I think we'll see a whole slew of Ulta HD Blu-ray announcements at CES 2016. I'm curious if anybody is going to use CEDIA 2015 to debut that sort of hardware, it's a distinct possibility.

It's nice to see the ball rolling, and I'm thrilled at the sub $500 promised debut price, I expect that will establish a precedent.

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I spoke to OPPO a couple months ago....their UHD players are tentatively due out in the 2nd half of 2016, probably to coincide with CEDIA if I had to guess.
Very good to know.

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Cool, can't wait till the price is $200 or less, that's my tipping point to buy.
Or, a PS5 that plays UHD
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You lost me at curved front. I'd like to see the custom rack mount for that. But it is good to see that it is coming in at $500 for first unit out of the gate. I remember paying $999 for my first stereo VHS tape player.
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Think I'll wait for Panny deck and/or a UHD computer drive.
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$500 is an ok price point. That's about the most I would consider reasonable. I'd rather be paying that much for an Oppo but if this is out in a few months and Oppo isn't out for a year, it's an easy decision.

Samsung will likely make for a great UHD streamer too where an Oppo may not. It's great to see this. One by one the companies will lay their hands and we will see what the new entertainment landscape will look like. There's so much potential.
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Regardless of any specific details, this is an exciting time for home theater enthusiasts!
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Curved player to match the curved screen?
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Holy crap!!! $500!! That is a lot of money for a Blu-ray player. Hopefully the price will come down quickly, or it won't help with the expansion of the format.
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Holy crap!!! $500!! That is a lot of money for a Blu-ray player. Hopefully the price will come down quickly, or it won't help with the expansion of the format.
Don't forget, Samsung introduced the first Blu-ray player, and it was $1000, so $500 for the first UHD BD player out of the gate seems pretty good to me. Of course, I expect prices will come down pretty quickly over the course of a year or two.
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Now that Comcast is enforcing my 300GB/mo data cap, I can only download 3 movies a month on top the stuff I normally do. I'll have to look into one of these next year. We should see a $399 entry level U-Ray player soon after launch.

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Holy crap!!! $500!! That is a lot of money for a Blu-ray player. Hopefully the price will come down quickly, or it won't help with the expansion of the format.
Maybe for a Samsung compared to today's Bluray players made by them - so many years down the track. But as a first gen model I wouldn't call it expensive. As so many have comment on the forums lately, we all remember the $1000 bluray players when they first launched. You've no doubt seen what the very limited(pretty much a waste of time) Sony FMP-X10 4K media player retails for yeah?

Also noting generally, its now looking like so much for a UHD bluray player for Xmas, bummer.
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I spoke to OPPO a couple months ago....their UHD players are tentatively due out in the 2nd half of 2016, probably to coincide with CEDIA if I had to guess.
Sept 2016? Might as well be sept 2046 unless it can offer a value added proposition on top of existing players.

Let's see, if it had 13 preouts with Atmos / DTS decoding built in, then they might have something. I know the current players are often used as players + preamps. But without immersive audio, in the UHD Bluray era, I can't help but think it's an expensive toy that's actually going to be inferior in a major way to a 150 dollar UHD Bluray player + cheap Atmos AVR.

I really hope Oppo clues in on this but I've seen no indication that it's even on their radar.
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Are you looking forward to Ultra HD Blu-ray?
Not really. I'm not looking forward to needing a new receiver, player, and cables so soon, similar to when 3D came out. If they start using 4k masters for content, respect the images with less DNR and EE, and the improvement in bit depth and colors is possible without having to have the extreme brightness of Home Video HDR baked in, then I could be tempted to go through the upgrade cycle though.

Given all that, I'm skeptical.
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So, I can barely make it out in the picture of kingsman above, but it looks like that is shown to come with a normal Blu-Ray as well, similar to what they do now with Blu-Ray + Digital HD/DVD?

I'm hoping this is the case/standard, as I "only" own an HW40ES, 1080p projector, but one day hope to have a 4K setup. I'd like to start buying 4K Blu-Ray discs right now to be ready for when I have a 4K setup, even if it costs a bit more per blu-ray, as long as they come with a standard disc I can play now with my current setup.
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Now that Comcast is enforcing my 300GB/mo data cap, I can only download 3 movies a month on top the stuff I normally do.
THIS is the main hesitation I have with going full force into streaming. Anybody that blindly supports streaming and can't see this writing on the wall is...uh...not thinking clearly.

I'd rather have the physical media and a 4K UHD player to play the media I own as much as I want. Streaming 4K would be reserved for exclusives, such as a Netflix original series for example, and perhaps a movie that I'd like to see but not commit the $30 to own.

I'm glad to see Samsung setting the market at a reasonable $500 vs. $1000 or more.
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and so it begins... I wont even consider buying this or any other consumer 4k bluray player until its under the $200 mark so I have a while, unless its Oppo, I could be willing to spend more them lol, cant wait to see what they releases.
Oppo said December 2016 or January 2017 so until then I will just wait and save money I don't have the means to be an early adopter anymore !

Plus first generation electronics are always flawed!
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.........Let's see, if it had 13 preouts with Atmos / DTS decoding built in, then they might have something. I know the current players are often used as players + preamps. But without immersive audio, in the UHD Bluray era, I can't help but think it's an expensive toy that's actually going to be inferior in a major way to a 150 dollar UHD Bluray player + cheap Atmos AVR. I really hope Oppo clues in on this but I've seen no indication that it's even on their radar.
Who knows we might be surprised I sure hope they do exactly that let them know your wishes they listen to customers
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I think at some point we will see a push to kill off physical discs in favor of streaming and it will come from the Direct TV's, the internet service providers like Comcast etc. I have always preferred a physical disc rather than to download a movie, software etc. I can share it with my family and friends at my leisure but not sure I can do that with a download. All my pictures, videos etc I have stored on a personal cloud server but I have kept all the physical SD cards as a backup in case I have a catastrophic failure of my multiple computers and the cloud drive (not likely though). I love my collections of DVD's and Blu rays and books. They will have to pry them from my cold dead hands.
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Don't forget, Samsung introduced the first Blu-ray player, and it was $1000, so $500 for the first UHD BD player out of the gate seems pretty good to me. Of course, I expect prices will come down pretty quickly over the course of a year or two.
I thought sony released the first blu ray player ?
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I think at some point we will see a push to kill off physical discs in favor of streaming and it will come from the Direct TV's, the internet service providers like Comcast etc. I have always preferred a physical disc rather than to download a movie, software etc. I can share it with my family and friends at my leisure but not sure I can do that with a download. All my pictures, videos etc I have stored on a personal cloud server but I have kept all the physical SD cards as a backup in case I have a catastrophic failure of my multiple computers and the cloud drive (not likely though). I love my collections of DVD's and Blu rays and books. They will have to pry them from my cold dead hands.
What I want to know is if you'll be able to downscale UHD streaming with one of these players, which would result in Blu-ray quality Netflix. I could see people with HDTVs buying these boxes if there was a benefit even for 1080p TVs, and that would be good for the new format.

I definitely wonder if it'll be worth buying into the new format if your TV is still 1080p. If the prices are low enough and you can get a "perfect" 1080p stream out of it, then yes.
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That's my memory as well.
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What I want to know is if you'll be able to downscale UHD streaming with one of these players, which would result in Blu-ray quality Netflix. I could see people with HDTVs buying these boxes if there was a benefit even for 1080p TVs, and that would be good for the new format.

I definitely wonder if it'll be worth buying into the new format if your TV is still 1080p. If the prices are low enough, then yes.
I own an Oppo presently and enjoy using it for both Blue Ray and playback of media files (movies and music) from my NAS. As well, it had enough extras on it to be my 'Go To' device when not watching TiVo. What you mentioned above is quite similar to my thoughts on these players (as well as 4k TVs) is how well will they do 1080p (player down converting and TV upconverting). 1080p could be improved with either. So, lets see how this Samsung works!
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Oppo said December 2016 or January 2017 so until then I will just wait and save money I don't have the means to be an early adopter anymore !

Plus first generation electronics are always flawed!
I personally can't see buying an oppo that plays a Blu-Ray, I can't even imagine what an UHD OPPO BLU-RAY PLAYER will cost.
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