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The 3D titles being released are better, and I'm not so sure that's only an opinion either...
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Couple I've never purchased so this will be great, a couple I'd re buy again in this format. The others - Blu-ray was good enough to not want to purchase again.
Now, how long until Lucas also jumps on the band wagon and tries to hit us up - AGAIN!?
You do realize Lucas sold all his stuff to Disney right?
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You do realize Lucas sold all his stuff to Disney right?
And you don't think there's not a clause in it for additional $ for him?

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No there is not. If there is, it won't be called "sold all the rights of StarWars to Disney"
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Plus he donated 100% of the proceeds of the sale to charity.
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the panasonic UHD player launched over in Japan today, anybody see any articles of anybody getting their hands on one over there? anyone know if theres even any 4k discs going on sale today over there?

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Ah so 2-3 years after 4K sets were available there's finally real content for them--good to know. At least now when someone asks me if they should buy a 4K set I can now say "yes" without any ifs or buts or qualifiers.


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I'm generally going to wait until 2017 to buy an UHD Blu-ray player. I'd like to wait for 2nd-generation hardware, which will likely be much less expensive than first. Likewise, I think UHD-BD media will have come down in price some and leveled off.
And then for some^, it'll be like 4-5 years before it's even in use. Personally I doubt I'll even have a 4K set by then but I'm sure in late 17 the big push will be for 8k sets or something like that with content coming in 2020, lol.

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In the mean time, my movie-buying strategy will be to buy the UHD version of movies as they come out IF they come with a standard Blu-ray. I'll just stockpile and future proof my library until I have a player to view them -- that's been my strategy for 3D movies since all I DON'T have yet is a 3D-capable TV, which will come in February or March once I get my tax refund and see what HDR-capable sets are on the market.
But do you have a 4K set? Because if you do I would have thought you'd have waited long enough so as not to wait yet another year for 4K BD but you are correct in that the 1st gen players will be expensive and not as polished as the next year's models.
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No there is not. If there is, it won't be called "sold all the rights of StarWars to Disney"
Yes, but somehow I doubt he handed over the original negatives of Eps 4-6.
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What a steaming pile of turd for the first 6 movies.
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Plus he donated 100% of the proceeds of the sale to charity.
It's called a tax break - I doubt very seriously, he's going to abandon ALL chances of cashing in somewhere along the line.
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1) Anyone think Sony will update PS4 to play stuff like this?

2) I have Sony X930c - Does anyone have some good HDR footage I can demo/watch?
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1) Anyone think Sony will update PS4 to play stuff like this?

2) I have Sony X930c - Does anyone have some good HDR footage I can demo/watch?
PS4 is all set to do 4K video, I do not know if it will do HDR. I do not think that it will
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1) Anyone think Sony will update PS4 to play stuff like this?

2) I have Sony X930c - Does anyone have some good HDR footage I can demo/watch?

yea, check out this thread. all the hdr available here:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...ted-often.html

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Even if only 2k, the hdr regrading makes it absolutely worth it.
Unlike you, and apparently Scotty wilkinson, there are many of us who appreciate the superior video detail that content mastered in 4K and displayed in HD has to offer over an inferior 2k remaster that just would get an HDR regrade.
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Unlike you, and apparently Scotty wilkinson, there are many of us who appreciate the superior video detail that content mastered in 4K and displayed in HD has to offer over an inferior 2k remaster that just would get an HDR regrade.

You may have misunderstood. The original 2k still gets mastered in 4k, and then gets hdr 10bit graded. 4k hdr > 2k hdr

The initial sony 4k hdr offerings have not disappointed me so far as to the resolution aspect, and it's only going to get better. I've done the comparisons with the blu ray copies, have you?

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I imagine that the initial titles merely reflect what Sony had on hand and coud use to ramp up the UHD production lines. I agree that they are not likely to generate huge appeal compared to the others you mention. I think that UHD will have a slow ramp-up (somewhat like blu-ray), as many people are not willing to upgrade their investments in TVs+players+AVR+more speakers. Eventually there will be lower prices and a wider selection of titles. Title selection may well depend on how many older titles were restored with this resolution in mind and only released in blu-ray as an interim step. Producers will not want to go through another restoration step (and expense) soon after restoring for blu-ray. At least that's my two bits worth for whatever it matters :-)

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PS4 is all set to do 4K video, I do not know if it will do HDR. I do not think that it will
Really? I didn't think PS4 had 4K video support.

Do you have any links? I'd love to read more.
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What % of Joe Consumer public, are still buying and watching DVD?
For us Blu-ray snobs, we'll just move up the ladder and become HDR snobs - again either Blue or HDR, what % of the us buying clientel actually purchase? Niche market?

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Really? I didn't think PS4 had 4K video support.

Do you have any links? I'd love to read more.
Watch the video here, Shuhei Yoshida mentions it.Think it is around the 7 minute mark
http://www.engadget.com/2015/07/10/s...ject-morpheus/
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Again all the haters.

C'mon guys: to release movies is like betting on something you can't win. Why all this whining about the titles? To me this is great news. To complain about the first couple of movies makes no sense. In a year's time we will have probably around 250 - 300 films to chose from.

Remember when the CD came out? 4 classical titles and 2 Dire Straits I believe. I bought 2 classical ones. Certainly not titles for the mass market, but you have to start with something. Remember when the first DTS LD's came out? Look at those suckers. T2 was good, Jurassic Park too and also The Abyss, but then the next bunch was all the crap that Universal puts out every time there is a new format.

I say, be grateful that a new era is starting for us HT enthusiasts.

I agree 100%. We are finally getting a few titles soon, no sense complaining yet!! and prefect timing for my new theater which I hope to have done by May
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But do you have a 4K set? Because if you do I would have thought you'd have waited long enough so as not to wait yet another year for 4K BD but you are correct in that the 1st gen players will be expensive and not as polished as the next year's models.
I don't have a 4K set, but I plan on buying one in early 2016 w/ my tax refund. Frankly, I've been wanting a bigger screen for a while, but can't stand the idea of buying a 1080p set at this point. That said, I also can't stand the idea of buying a 4K set without HDR and expanded color since this TV needs to last me for at least 5 years until we build our own house and I outfit it with new gear.

So I'm thinking I'll likely get a Samsung JS8500 or JS9000 at a deeply-discounted rate in Feb. or Mar. 2016, do my thing with standard Blu-ray, 3D, and 4K streaming for a year or so (while buying UHD-BD/BD combo packs), then jump in and buy a UHD-BD player about a year later.

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I don't have a 4K set, but I plan on buying one in early 2016 w/ my tax refund. Frankly, I've been wanting a bigger screen for a while, but can't stand the idea of buying a 1080p set at this point. That said, I also can't stand the idea of buying a 4K set without HDR and expanded color since this TV needs to last me for at least 5 years until we build our own house and I outfit it with new gear.

So I'm thinking I'll likely get a Samsung JS8500 or JS9000 at a deeply-discounted rate in Feb. or Mar. 2016, do my thing with standard Blu-ray, 3D, and 4K streaming for a year or so (while buying UHD-BD/BD combo packs), then jump in and buy a UHD-BD player about a year later.
Have you noticed, CES 2016, and as to what we will see there, seems to be being kept well under wraps, with only the odd glimmering as to what to expect?
Nothing, due to the experts back at arguing required specs.
Something totally upscale with a big bump in HDR Nit output.
Or, so so because everybody is running around in circles trying to figure out the direction things will go in?
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Looking back at the early days of Blu-Ray, some of the initial releases were not very great from a technical standpoint, and it took a long time for some of those major titles to get a proper re-release. So in a way, it might be a good thing that the first batch of titles are not major pieces of cinema.

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PS4 is all set to do 4K video, I do not know if it will do HDR. I do not think that it will
It would require a new HDMI 2.0a port to do HDR.
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I'm disappointed with the initial titles—other than The Amazing Spider-Man 2, they are not what I'd call blockbusters with wide appeal. The Smurfs 2? C'mon Sony, you can do better than that! The press release mentions many other new and classic titles in Sony's library of 4K content, including Fury, Captain Phillips, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, Men In Black, Ghostbusters, The Fifth Element, Bad Boys, The Da Vinci Code, Bram Stoker's Dracula, Leon: The Professional, Lawrence of Arabia, The Bridge on the River Kwai, The Guns of Navarone, Taxi Driver, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, and many others. Why isn't the company starting with some of these?
I completely agree with the above. I cannot see myself buying any of these titles apart from Spider Man 2. I also hope that they quality of these UHD discs is great because I remember buying some remastered BluRay titles in the early days of BluRay and they were not a whole lot better than the DVD's I was hoping to replace. Some of these same movies have now come out in much better quality BluRay discs, but I hope that I don't have to buy a crappy version of a UHD disc next year and then a better version of the same movie a year or two later.

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Again all the haters.

C'mon guys: to release movies is like betting on something you can't win. Why all this whining about the titles? To me this is great news. To complain about the first couple of movies makes no sense. In a year's time we will have probably around 250 - 300 films to chose from.

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I say, be grateful that a new era is starting for us HT enthusiasts.
You have a point. Perhaps, however, the real question is when are the studios going to learn from their past mistakes (aka getting their heads out of their asses) and ask us what we want not issue what they feel like pushing on a software hungry consumer.

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I'll just wait until Oppo releases their UHD Blu-ray player, won't settle for anything less.
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Watch the video here, Shuhei Yoshida mentions it.Think it is around the 7 minute mark
http://www.engadget.com/2015/07/10/s...ject-morpheus/
so the darth vader edition of the ps4 will play 4k?
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i love that their HDR is 'open/non-proprietary' vs. what they are traditionally known for (Sony is). hahahaha very funny

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so the darth vader edition of the ps4 will play 4k?
Yes, the Darth Vader Edition will play 4K video

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