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Sony Ultra HD Blu-ray Titles: The First Six

Ultra HD Blu-ray is finally going to be available to consumers early next year, and Sony Pictures Home Entertainment will be at the forefront of that development with six titles announced this week. The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Hancock, Salt, Chappie, Pineapple Express, and The Smurfs 2 will be followed by other movies and TV shows, including new and catalog titles restored from the original elements.



Many titles will include immersive soundtracks, though Sony isn't announcing specifics about that yet. Likewise, many titles will include high dynamic-range (HDR) imagery, but again, the press release reveals nothing about which HDR system will be used. When I asked my contact at Sony about this, he said, "The HDR will use an open, non-proprietary spec," which probably means the SMPTE/HDR10 standard.

The packaging was designed by the Digital Entertainment Group in collaboration with many major studios, including Anchor Bay Entertainment, HBO Home Entertainment, Lionsgate, Paramount Home Media Distribution, Sony Pictures Home Entertainment, Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment, Universal Pictures Home Entertainment, and Warner Bros. Home Entertainment. The carbonized black color and metallic-silver lettering and logo are intended to help differentiate Ultra HD Blu-rays from current Blu-ray titles, which are packaged in a blue case. Also, new packaging can house a single disc or a combo pack—for example, separate Ultra HD and HD Blu-ray discs.

I'm disappointed with the initial titles—other than The Amazing Spider-Man 2, they are not what I'd call blockbusters with wide appeal. The Smurfs 2? C'mon Sony, you can do better than that! The press release mentions many other new and classic titles in Sony's library of 4K content, including Fury, Captain Phillips, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, Men In Black, Ghostbusters, The Fifth Element, Bad Boys, The Da Vinci Code, Bram Stoker's Dracula, Leon: The Professional, Lawrence of Arabia, The Bridge on the River Kwai, The Guns of Navarone, Taxi Driver, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, and many others. Why isn't the company starting with some of these?

Even though they aren't what I would have chosen, I'm still looking forward to seeing the first six Sony Ultra HD Blu-ray titles on a 4K/UHD display with HDR and immersive sound. They might not be the best movies ever made, but they will point the way to a far better home-theater experience than we've had up to now, and better content is sure to follow.
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I believe I just shed a tear of joy. I look forward to what these movies mean, if not the movies themselves. The pieces of the UHD puzzle are soon to come together to convey a picture (pun intended) years in the making.
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All of the studios have announced disappointing lineups. 2015 was one of the biggest movie years in recent history, there's at least 10 blockbuster movies from this year that should be available in hdr on disc (jurassic world, furious 7, mad max, San andreas, pixels, MI5, avengers 2).

I did however get a chance to watch part of Smurfs 2 last night in hdr from amazon. And I have 2 say that from all the hdr I've watched so far, Smurfs 2 is the only one I would put into the category of "reference" like as far as 4k hdr. Simply gorgeous with the color and the resolution appears to be true 4k as well. It was much better quality than the amazing spiderman 2 hdr that I also bought from amazon. (Which isn't too shabby itself).
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I must admit, I do enjoy the packing more than regular "old" Blu-Ray. The color scheme draws the eye to the cover art a bit more.

That being said, The Fifth Element would have been a better choice to launch with. At least it is in coming soon pile.

Cheers to the future of home cinema.
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Couple I've never purchased so this will be great, a couple I'd re buy again in this format. The others - Blu-ray was good enough to not want to purchase again.
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Consider these canaries sent into the new and scarry UHD mine. Screw up Hancock and few will care, screw up The Lord of the Rings or Mission Impossible movies and heads will roll.
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My The Fifth Element collection:

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coming soon:
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UHD Bluray with Mastered in 8K edition.
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They release first the movies which are mastered in full 4k including digital intermediate and effects for DCI, simple as that.
They could just slap the BluRay version on the UHDBR disc like the first BluRays back in 2006 which are essentially DVD quality.
What, you wanted upscaled 2K for first launch?

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My The Fifth Element collection:

LaserDisc
DVD
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Bluray
Bluray (Atmos Mi4K)

coming soon:
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UHD Bluray with Mastered in 8K edition.
I have The Fifth Element in the remastered (good) blueray version. Does the new (Atmos Mi4K) version have better video quality?

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I have The Fifth Element in the remastered (good) blueray version. Does the new (Atmos Mi4K) version have better video quality?

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The video quality is gorgeous. It's worthrebuying at merely $14 (in Canada)

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Ive watched 6 or 7 of hte fox HDR movies, and 4-5 of the sony HDR movies, and so far the quality of the sony HDR is noticeably better than the fox stuff.

I did do a small comparison of the Smurf 2 4K on netflix and Smurfs 2 4k with HDR on amazon, the difference was quite amazing. The colors/depth/detail and overall strength of picture was easily in favor of the HDR version. HDR is becoming very addicting to me with its added depth and enhanced colors and the way it "corrects" faults in the picture. The exanded colors and extra shades of each color really creat a picture like we've never seen before, very exciting.

I am SO looking forward to blockbusters being released in 4k Blu Ray format.
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I debated a lot with myself on weather or not I should buy a 4k set or a panny plasma in Oct 2014... I'm glad I went with the Plasma (LOL). It would have been a long wait for an HDR capable set anyhow, & it looks like it'll be a while before HDR dust settles.

Though I'm glad to see UHD finally hitting the market... hopefully that will push for more dolby Atmos releases.
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The only one I like in the initial bunch is Hancock, which I actually have already on 1080 BD (is Sony really still using that tired spoiler-cover?).
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Talk about wasted opportunity Sony, typical for them. Not a single decent film in the six. When will they stop trying to sell Spiderman to the masses ?

I don't own a 4K panel, and do all my movie watching on a 135" and Sony HW40ES, I won't be rushing out to upgrade to 4K if this is indicative of the line ups planned.

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Hmm, let's get people excited about investing their hard-earned money into 4K by releasing movies that are completely craptacular (and this includes Spiderman 2 with the only saving grace being Emma Stone).
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Granted they may not be blockbusters but at least it is UHD content. Sure, I would like to see better movies, but there is the possibility these were chosen to test the mastering and manufacturing processes. It would be a shame for them to pick their best titles first only to realize later they could have improved the process post distribution. Everyone has had their eyes on the horizon for UHD content and when it comes there is animosity. Be thankful that at least something has come forth.

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man those titles are poor !

i'm going to hold back on 4k , i still have the scars from buying into HD DVD lol
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what type of audio are these new releases? are any/all atmos or dts:x?
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I Wont be Upgrading my Blu-Rays to 4k when I make the leap to 4k equipment. I Will by Newly released titles and titles I don't own. So Far witht the releasing I dont care as I don't have 4k yet and Most likely wont untill oppo releases a 4k player.

If you were to buy a 4k title to replace a 1080p release what would it be?

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i'm going to hold back on 4k , i still have the scars from buying into HD DVD lol
Well, Sony always has to be at the forefront of these things; and then they usually turn around and screw things up!

Not sorry I bought into HD DVD (had a hybrid player, afterall), but am glad I didn't go for Betamax.
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there is the possibility these were chosen to test the mastering and manufacturing processes.
You might be right. Maybe these were low hanging fruit so they could get something out quickly.
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I though Sony was going to offer DolbyVision on their new releases. I think these are just ones they already had on the FXP.

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I expected the newly remastered titles like Fifth Element at the very least (and was looking forward to reviews of the remastered BD vs UHD BD)
What a terrible list of launch titles. Sony should be burning AM2, not trying to foist it on the UHD BD launch. Ugh.
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I sure hope they are not going to play the same game they did when blu ray came out. That being a $10 higher price tag over DVD. I'm sure not going to pay $30 for a 4K blu ray movie.
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And so it begins.

I'm still using my 2008 PS3, good old 1080p works for now, and I'm patiently waiting till UHD comes to PS4 or PS5 (CES 2016 should announce a slew of UHD players) before I jump on the bandwagon.

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Again all the haters.

C'mon guys: to release movies is like betting on something you can't win. Why all this whining about the titles? To me this is great news. To complain about the first couple of movies makes no sense. In a year's time we will have probably around 250 - 300 films to chose from.

Remember when the CD came out? 4 classical titles and 2 Dire Straits I believe. I bought 2 classical ones. Certainly not titles for the mass market, but you have to start with something. Remember when the first DTS LD's came out? Look at those suckers. T2 was good, Jurassic Park too and also The Abyss, but then the next bunch was all the crap that Universal puts out every time there is a new format.

I say, be grateful that a new era is starting for us HT enthusiasts.
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