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Roku Introduces Five Streaming Video Players Including Roku Ultra

Roku is ready to rock your streaming world with a complete refresh of its popular networked video player lineup. The company has eliminated its number-based naming scheme that gave us Roku 1, 2, 3, and 4. The new models start with the Roku Express ($30) and the Express+ ($40); these two are 1080p devices, with the "plus" variant offering composite analog video output, in addition to HDMI.

The Roku Premiere ($80) and Roku Premiere+($100) models up the resolution ante to 4K UHD and 60 fps output, with the Premier+ model also offering HDR compatibility, a Bluetooth remote, an Ethernet connection, and a MicroSD card slot, for the extra 20 bucks.


The compact, minimalist Roku Express will stream 1080p over HDMI and sells for only 30 bucks.

The new flagship player is the Roku Ultra ($130) that builds upon the Premier+'s capabilities by adding Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital+ decoding, optical digital output, a USB port for local media playback, and a lost remote-finder feature.


The Roku Ultra is the company's new flagship media player, and it supports 4K UHD with HDR.

The HDR implementation in the Premiere+ and Ultra models utilizes HDR10, the format used for Ultra HD Blu-ray. With Vudu's recent announcement that it will support HDR10 in addition to Dolby Vision, all the major streaming services that offer HDR (including Amazon and Netflix) offer HDR10 content.

You may ask, "Why would I want a stream HDR content from a Roku if my TV already has the same app built-in?" The answer is: sound. Specifically, with many HDR-capable TVs, it is not possible to enjoy Dolby Atmos soundtracks concurrently with HDR video, even if the streaming service offers it, as is the case with Vudu. However, by directly connecting an HDR-capable Roku to a Dolby Atmos soundbar, pre-pro, or AVR with HDMI, you can enjoy streaming entertainment that offers state-of-the-art sound and visuals.

Roku is taking orders for these new players effective immediately. The company expects to ship the new products on October 9. The Roku Express+ will be a Walmart exclusive, the remainder of the products will be available from Best Buy, Amazon, Roku.com, and other retailers.
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Does the ultra model Bitstream DTS Master audio and Dolby true HD?
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Does the ultra model Bitstream DTS Master audio and Dolby true HD?
Nothing I know of can do that (well, Kaleidescape, but that's not streaming)... and no streaming service offers it that I know of. But that sure would be nice.

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Thanks for the information, this device looks promising. Can it be the "one solution" for almost all popular streaming services if not covering each and everything? I am looking for at least Amazon, Netflix and Vudu with 4K + HDR and DD/DTS surround. How would it compare with NVidia Shield? Someone familiar please give details.

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Nothing I know of can do that (weel, Kaleidescape, but that's not streaming)... and no streaming service offers it that I know of. But that sure would be nice.
This makes no sense as the audio portion of the movie will take up the least amount of room on the disk.
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Mr. I magic do you know if the new Apple TV will support DTS master audio and Dolby true HD?
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wait so is the Roku 4 before these models announced basically the Roku Ultra then, am I missing something or is there an actual difference?

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Looks like the Roku Ultra will be the only device that will allow Dolby Atmos via VUDU...

Still not convinces it is a true "Dolby Atmos" and equal to what would be on the physical media..
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wait so is the Roku 4 before these models announced basically the Roku Ultra then, am I missing something or is there an actual difference?
The Roku 4 only does 4k SDR. The Ultra does 4k HDR.
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Looks like the Roku Ultra will be the only device that will allow Dolby Atmos via VUDU...

Still not convinces it is a true "Dolby Atmos" and equal to what would be on the physical media..
It is true Dolby Atmos, but the lossy version using Dolby Digital Plus. Atmos on discs are the lossless version using Dolby TrueHD.
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Any way to downmix dd plus to plain dd on these players? I've read conflicting reports on this for both the current Roku 4 and Amazon fire.
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It is true Dolby Atmos, but the lossy version using Dolby Digital Plus. Atmos on discs are the lossless version using Dolby TrueHD.
Thanks. That makes sense then.

I have always been against streaming for a couple of reasons.
1. My internet signal in my theater room isn't that great....especially for 4K streaming.
2. The audio wasn't up to par. I have spent a lot on my audio and video. The video is acceptable but the audio wasn't.....

I am thinking about getting one of these, at some point, so I can have VUDU available in my rooms. My Panasonic 4K player doesn't have that option as of now.
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The Roku 4 only does 4k SDR. The Ultra does 4k HDR.
oh okay so everything else is offered but the difference is HDR, well thats okay I dont have an HDR projector yet so Im good with this then for a while.
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I'm going to pre-order the Ultra. The Premiere+ would probably be fine, but for $30 more, why not? I'm hoping that it will crash far less than my Samsung TV's built-in apps, and hopefully offer Netflix HDR as well, which my TV still doesn't offer. Mostly I just want the better interface and reliability. My Samsung TV is great, but man are the apps bad.
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Well even though my first day purchase of the Roku 4 was a disaster (very hot and loud fan which got it sent back) I am interested in the Ultra though I will be waiting patiently for the first reports from users
to make sure things are running smoothly with this unit. Roku was just terrible the way they didn't seem to handle the problems with the 4 by never providing any info on what was going on or the cause of the problems. Still loving my two 3 units and the 2XS.
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Looks like the Roku Ultra will be the only device that will allow Dolby Atmos via VUDU...

The current Roku 4 allows it. I don't see why the non-Ultra ones will do it not since you need it to bitstream DD+ for Atmos, not internally decode it.

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The current Roku 4 allows it. I don't see why the non-Ultra ones will do it not since you need it to bitstream DD+ for Atmos, not internally decode it.
I know that one does...I mistyped. Should have said out of the new ones coming out.

The Roku 4 wasn't bad, but I returned it after a few weeks due to issues with it staying powered up.
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Looks like the Roku Ultra will be the only device that will allow Dolby Atmos via VUDU...

Still not convinces it is a true "Dolby Atmos" and equal to what would be on the physical media..
Actually the vizio P-series can stream atmos with casting VUDU. Like the below post, it is the lossy version.
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I understand these units don't do Dolby Vision ... useless for me...
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Roku is ready to rock your streaming world with a complete refresh of its popular networked video player lineup. The company has eliminated its number-based naming scheme that gave us Roku 1, 2, 3, and 4. The new models start with the Roku Express ($30) and the Express+ ($40); these two are 1080p devices, with the "plus" variant offering composite analog video output, in addition to HDMI.

The Roku Premiere ($80) and Roku Premiere+($100) models up the resolution anti-to 4K UHD and 60 fps output, with the Premier+ model also offering HDR compatibility, a Bluetooth remote, an Ethernet connection, and a MicroSD card slot, for the extra 20 bucks.


The compact, minimalist Roku Express will stream 1080p over HDMI and sells for only 30 bucks.

The new flagship player is the Roku Ultra ($130) that builds upon the Premier+'s capabilities by adding Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital+ decoding, optical digital output, a USB port for local media playback, and a lost remote-finder feature.


The Roku Ultra is the company's new flagship media player, and it supports 4K UHD with HDR.

The HDR implementation in the Premiere+ and Ultra models utilizes HDR10, the format used for Ultra HD Blu-ray. With Vudu's recent announcement that it will support HDR10 in addition to Dolby Vision, all the major streaming services that offer HDR (including Amazon and Netflix) offer HDR10 content.

You may ask, "Why would I want a stream HDR content from a Roku if my TV already has the same app built-in?" The answer is: sound. Specifically, with many HDR-capable TVs, it is not possible to enjoy Dolby Atmos soundtracks concurrently with HDR video, even if the streaming service offers it, as is the case with Vudu. However, by directly connecting an HDR-capable Roku to a Dolby Atmos soundbar, pre-pro, or AVR with HDMI, you can enjoy streaming entertainment that offers state-of-the-art sound and visuals.

Roku is taking orders for these new players effective immediately. The company expects to ship the new products on October 9. The Roku Express+ will be a Walmart exclusive, the remainder of the products will be available from Best Buy, Amazon, Roku.com, and other retailers.
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Nice But I'll Wait

If you believe PQ & AQ is the primary key to enjoy a film, physical media is the answer. That said, I have a 4th Gen Apple TV, and the UI including Siri for search, selection and presentation is phenomenal. It has increased tenfold the value of HBO and other premium channels. I fully expect a 4K version with full audio by Spring 2017 at the latest. Many of the 4K providers/apps are still trying to build out content, provide a stable platform.
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As another poster already mentioned I'm really curious to see if the new top model fixes the issues I personally experienced with the Roku 4:
- Noisy fan
- Buggy operation
- Audio distortion and sync issues

I own numerous Roku devices and the 4 is the only one I ever returned. I really hope the new Ultra is as good as the old model 3.
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Still no gigabit Ethernet. C'mon Roku! Step it up already!!
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Nothing I know of can do that (weel, Kaleidescape, but that's not streaming)... and no streaming service offers it that I know of. But that sure would be nice.
The NVidia Shield TV does, and the question would be relevant for Plex users and such for local content streaming,which is supported by Roku for awhile now, not streaming Netflix and the such. If the new Rokus don't support lossless codecs than they are stuck in the past still as far as audio.

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So, would one be better off waiting on the new HDR BRP for streaming or going ahead and grabbing this (I have the speaker layout to support Atmos but only have an Xbox One S as I was waiting on the new HDR BRP or Roku for bitstreaming)?
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Right now with Netflix app from my Oppo I get 5.1 but if I get the Roku stick and connect it to my Oppo then the content won't be in 5.1?
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As another poster already mentioned I'm really curious to see if the new top model fixes the issues I personally experienced with the Roku 4:
- Noisy fan
- Buggy operation
- Audio distortion and sync issues

I own numerous Roku devices and the 4 is the only one I ever returned. I really hope the new Ultra is as good as the old model 3.
And, for some of us, the infamous red/magenta push . . . Don't believe that ever got fixed on many of the Roku 4's????
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I've never owned a Roku device before but this seems promising -
One question I have is how does it handle USB Playback, does it support most if not all Video formats? I am sure we won't know about 4K and HDR Playback via USB until after its released... any ideas?

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