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Amazon Music Unlimited HD is a four or five dollar a month add-on to the normal Music Unlimited.

It has apps for Windows and I assume Macs, for Android and I assume iOs, and the Fire TVs. The HD version is not yet on the Rokus.

The music is badged as "SD" (mp3), "HD" (16/44.1 - standard CD), or "Ultra HD" (24/48 or 24/96). If you click on the badge while the music is playing, you get a pop-up saying what it is, what it thinks your player can handle, and what it's streaming to you.

While I can set my PC's soundcard to let me get 24/96, my Android phone gets 24/48, and the Fire TVs get 16/48 - even when plugged into AV receivers that can handle 24/192! Also, the Fire TV has to have its Audio set to Stereo to get even that. If you leave it in the default DD+, you'll get SD.

And even if it's playing on your PC in 24/96, purchased downloads are only mp3s. I spent four hours in a chat with tech support there last night until they kicked it up to higher level techs who confirmed that - even though the PC app's Advanced Settings allows for up to Ultra HD downloads, and their FAQ quotes file sizes for all three qualities of downloads.

Of course, the only way to know that the downloaded files are mp3s is to look at them in your computer's file manager - the app will never tell you!
My 90 day trial is expiring soon and I've pretty much decided to switch to Qobuz or Tidal. Amazon's pricing was very attractive but Qobuz dropped their price and Tidal has some great promotions right now. Amazon sound quality is noticeably inferior to my ears.
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Even the basic service is pretty good, with both video and audio included as part of the Amazon Prime subscription.
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Even the basic service is pretty good, with both video and audio included as part of the Amazon Prime subscription.
How is the library these days with the Basic plan that is included with Prime? I subscribed to Unlimited since almost all the songs I was interested in weren't available with the Basic.

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How is the library these days with the Basic plan that is included with Prime? I subscribed to Unlimited since almost all the songs I was interested in weren't available with the Basic.

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There were a few songs missing for me. But I was able to put together a play list of about 400 songs that give me a rotation that I am very pleased with. Of course I am mostly a fan of classic rock, new wave and pop from back in the day. If you are into all the current music hits, then the list of songs that available under the basic plan for what you want might be a bit more spotty.
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Amazon Music Unlimited HD is a four or five dollar a month add-on to the normal Music Unlimited.

It has apps for Windows and I assume Macs, for Android and I assume iOs, and the Fire TVs. The HD version is not yet on the Rokus.

The music is badged as "SD" (mp3), "HD" (16/44.1 - standard CD), or "Ultra HD" (24/48 or 24/96). If you click on the badge while the music is playing, you get a pop-up saying what it is, what it thinks your player can handle, and what it's streaming to you.

While I can set my PC's soundcard to let me get 24/96, my Android phone gets 24/48, and the Fire TVs get 16/48 - even when plugged into AV receivers that can handle 24/192! Also, the Fire TV has to have its Audio set to Stereo to get even that. If you leave it in the default DD+, you'll get SD.

And even if it's playing on your PC in 24/96, purchased downloads are only mp3s. I spent four hours in a chat with tech support there last night until they kicked it up to higher level techs who confirmed that - even though the PC app's Advanced Settings allows for up to Ultra HD downloads, and their FAQ quotes file sizes for all three qualities of downloads.

Of course, the only way to know that the downloaded files are mp3s is to look at them in your computer's file manager - the app will never tell you!
My 90 day trial is expiring soon and I've pretty much decided to switch to Qobuz or Tidal. Amazon's pricing was very attractive but Qobuz dropped their price and Tidal has some great promotions right now. Amazon sound quality is noticeably inferior to my ears.
Appreciate the perspective, basically Qobuz is the hires streaming provider now?
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Appreciate the perspective, basically Qobuz is the hires streaming provider now?
Correct. High Resolution and Lossless CD quality streaming
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Amazon Music Unlimited HD is a four or five dollar a month add-on to the normal Music Unlimited.

It has apps for Windows and I assume Macs, for Android and I assume iOs, and the Fire TVs. The HD version is not yet on the Rokus.

The music is badged as "SD" (mp3), "HD" (16/44.1 - standard CD), or "Ultra HD" (24/48 or 24/96). If you click on the badge while the music is playing, you get a pop-up saying what it is, what it thinks your player can handle, and what it's streaming to you.

While I can set my PC's soundcard to let me get 24/96, my Android phone gets 24/48, and the Fire TVs get 16/48 - even when plugged into AV receivers that can handle 24/192! Also, the Fire TV has to have its Audio set to Stereo to get even that. If you leave it in the default DD+, you'll get SD.

And even if it's playing on your PC in 24/96, purchased downloads are only mp3s. I spent four hours in a chat with tech support there last night until they kicked it up to higher level techs who confirmed that - even though the PC app's Advanced Settings allows for up to Ultra HD downloads, and their FAQ quotes file sizes for all three qualities of downloads.

Of course, the only way to know that the downloaded files are mp3s is to look at them in your computer's file manager - the app will never tell you!
My 90 day trial is expiring soon and I've pretty much decided to switch to Qobuz or Tidal. Amazon's pricing was very attractive but Qobuz dropped their price and Tidal has some great promotions right now. Amazon sound quality is noticeably inferior to my ears.
How are you playing Amazon HD? If you're using a Fire, and you don't change the Fire's audio setting to stereo, it'll send lossy, mp3-like music, probably using Dolby Digital. If you change it to stereo, it'll send PCM stereo at 16/48 (about the same as CD, which is 16/44.1).

If you're using a PC, go into sound device settings and set the active device to its highest resolution, like 24/192.

The Amazon HD app checks on your playback capability to decide what to send.

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How are you playing Amazon HD? If you're using a Fire, and you don't change the Fire's audio setting to stereo, it'll send lossy, mp3-like music, probably using Dolby Digital. If you change it to stereo, it'll send PCM stereo at 16/48 (about the same as CD, which is 16/44.1).

If you're using a PC, go into sound device settings and set the active device to its highest resolution, like 24/192.

The Amazon HD app checks on your playback capability to decide what to send.
Usually via Echo. I can get UHD via Denon HEOS and via Bluesound but Qobuz still sounds better and seems to have a wider UHD library.
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Can this be heard on mobile in apps?
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Successful experiment.

I plugged my laptop by HDMI into the HDMI input of the Oppo BDP-103 I put in my wife's system, selected it as the audio output, and went into its properties in Windows. Set its output format to 24/192, and started the Amazon Music Unlimited HD desktop app.

Played an Ultra HD album and clicked on the Ultra HD badge next to the song title at the bottom of the screen and the pop-up said it was a 24/96 track, my device was capable of 24/192, so it was playing at the track's full 24/96.

My wife's system uses a sound bar - this was a dry run. I'll be setting up a PC in my theater and will run an HDMI cable directly to my Yamaha RX-A3070 AVR. It can do everything I use the Fire TV for, since I use a Roku Ultra for all video.

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Cool Got Ultra HD by using a PC instead of a Fire TV

Follow-up to yesterday's experiment:

I set up my Windows 10 theater PC today. All I needed to connect were a keyboard, a trackball (I don't like mice), and power, ethernet, and HDMI cables.

With the HDMI cable plugged into my Yamaha AVR, it displayed nicely through my projector.

Selected the AVR as the sound device so the sound came out of the speakers connected to it (this input on the AVR set to "9 Channel Stereo" - kind of like a giant car stereo, with no processing other than tying all the channels on each side of the room together, since I don't like the effect of surround processing on stereo music). Right-clicked on the AVR as the audio device in Windows, went into its Properties, and set its output format to "24/192."

Then I downloaded and installed Amazon Music's Windows desktop app.

Started it up and logged in with my Amazon password. Exited and went back in and it showed "Amazon Music Unlimited HD" on the start-up screen now that it knew I was a subscriber at that level. Selected and played an Ultra HD album, and clicked on the "Ultra HD" badge next to the title of the song at the bottom of the screen.

The popup said the track was 24/96, my equipment could handle 24/192, and so it was playing the track at its full 24/96 quality. It sounded very nice.

Being a Windows PC, I was even able to have it simultaneously display a slideshow at my landscape photography website (Photos.PhilOlenick.com) while playing music. Try that with a FireTV or even a Denon HEOS AVR!

Of course, for critical listening I'll turn off the projector and listen in the dark. That's how I listen to 24/96 5.1 surround music played by my Oppo.

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Guess it might...https://play-fi.com/news/new-feature...or-dts-play-fi
I signed up for free trial, but there is no indication that it's streaming in HD..so can't say for sure.

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