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Added some new pictures. Recently had the room redone for acoustics. I also did the complete ceiling forward of the sound treatments up to the screen with protostar flocking material to eliminate reflections from the screen.
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LOOKING GOOD KRIS!!!  That's an extremely complex [to me] treatment scheme there.  I know you and the Mrs. did the last treatment scheme and got great in-room measured response.  In what audible ways does this new treatment scheme improve upon the last one?  Or are you still feeling it out?

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This one was completely modeled, so it is slightly different. But most of the treatments are in the exact same places as before (the wife and I knew what we were doing the first time). The big difference now is the mix of diffusion and absorption. When we did the new install we did it in phases and the diffusion tightened up the image focus in subtle ways. In all honesty, it made more of a difference to the listening experience in the second row than the first, but the room already sounded fantastic. I would say this is a huge improvement on the aesthetics of the room compared to the bland big black rectangles I had before with some noticeable benefits acoustically. I've been very impressed with the quality and value of the Vicoustic treatments. They have performed every bit as good as what I had before, cost the same or less and make for a MUCH more attractive treatment, which is typically NOT the case with standard acoustical treatments.

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I'm sure every company has had its fair share of issues with some customers. I've had lemons from most at one point or another. But so far the emo amps have more than surpassed my expectations in performance and sound with not so much as a single hiccup.

I am curious when you got them did they smell like burned :eek:electronics
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I've had a few amps over the years that have put out some smells. Easy to do when you start heating up power supply, caps and transformers. A bigger concern would be arcing or fire. I haven't had so much as a scent from the Emo amps I have in the room at the moment though.

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I've had a few amps over the years that have put out some smells. Easy to do when you start heating up power supply, caps and transformers. A bigger concern would be arcing or fire. I haven't had so much as a scent from the Emo amps I have in the room at the moment though.

Good for you my INTEGRA RESERACH RDA-7 caught on fire ! The new Emotiiva I tried smelled like that new, they went back never again!
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You'd be first person I know with an Emo amp issue than. I have several friends with them and no problems. But there are PLENTY of great amps out there.

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An Integra Research catches fire, an Emo amp smells like a burnt tuna on dill rye sandwich, I mean who hasn't had this happen?!?
The Internet is lousy with these stories to the point that I get bored reading them.
For this very reason I would never buy either brand, unless they could actually make a great tuna on dill rye WITHOUT burning them, catching fire and stinking up my theater room.

 

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Chris, your set-up is fantastic. I had never heard of vicoustic before so you just gave them free advertising as I just called them and ordered some WaveWood panels.
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They are new to the US but have been a big player in Europe for quite some time now. I am currently working on a feature article for their treatments for the magazine. Look for that in the near future.

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They are new to the US but have been a big player in Europe for quite some time now. I am currently working on a feature article for their treatments for the magazine. Look for that in the near future.


Sounds great Kris. As someone whose livelyhood is in Product, I gave them some friendly/constructive feedback around their distribution channels. It shouldn't take a customer like myself 2 hours to figure out the only way for me to buy their product is to call their main number. They are new, have a fantastic product by all accounts...now they just need to let their customers buy their product easily and conveniently smile.gif

I think AVS would be a great channel for them. Maybe you started a trend here in using Vicoustic products by HT geeks on AVS. Perhaps they could even become a sponsor at some point down the road.
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Yeah, since they are new they are establishing their dealer base. I don't know if they have a dealer locator on their website, but I know they have a few dealers in my area. I obviously dealed with them directly. I believe you can buy some of their staple products right off Amazon. If you go thru their dealers you can also have a full acoustic model of your room done for a VERY low price. This allows them to show you issues with your room and what products and where would help you out. I should drop Scott a line on them for his podcast. I got a kick out of the Acoustics 101 and 102 episodes with the guy from MSR saying how acoustic treatments are ugly and never pass the WAF test. Definitely not the case anymore.

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Yeah, since they are new they are establishing their dealer base. I don't know if they have a dealer locator on their website, but I know they have a few dealers in my area. I obviously dealed with them directly. I believe you can buy some of their staple products right off Amazon. If you go thru their dealers you can also have a full acoustic model of your room done for a VERY low price. This allows them to show you issues with your room and what products and where would help you out. I should drop Scott a line on them for his podcast. I got a kick out of the Acoustics 101 and 102 episodes with the guy from MSR saying how acoustic treatments are ugly and never pass the WAF test. Definitely not the case anymore.

Sorry for hogging your thread today smile.gif

I think once you publish an article on their product, it could also drive new sales for them. They just need to be prepared for growth and success. At a minimum they should offer a web based store front so people can go to their site and purchase products (unless that goes against any kind of business model to not compete against their dealers). Since you have a relationship for them, here is some feedback to think about from a product standpoint:

1)typical search takes you to their European (main) website. The two sites (Europe versus USA) don't really link out to each other

2)sale channel needs development (as mentioned above)

3)Website is metric...welcome to imperial USA smile.gif

4)Their default quantitiy is 10..though they were willing to give custom quantities if needed. 10 might be a good number for non-consumer clients but if they want to tap the HT market, they need to work off single unit quantities and perhaps offer volume discounts.

Let me know if they are hiring a head or Product/Marketing smile.gif
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Came to your thread through your sig. Congrats on your room Kris, nicely done!!!

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What did you do for sound isolation? I'm way too far along with my meager build to think about adding isolation, but am interested in your thoughts. Projector noise and squeaking dog toys are the major contributor to my noise floor anyway.

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Nothing. No sound isolation from rest of house.

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Updated the first post. Replaced the X75 with the X700 from JVC. Also replaced my ST130 screen material with the ST100.

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Nice room Kris! Love the new pics. do you like the sound with the defuses better then the sound with absorption?

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Nice room Kris! Love the new pics. do you like the sound with the defuses better then the sound with absorption?

Thanks! When I redid the acoustic treatment I actually added quite a bit more. My main concern was a room that felt too dead. By adding a mix of diffusion and absorption I still got a really low RT number, but the room doesn't have an overly dead or damped feel to it. In terms of how it sounds, I find it to be largely the same in the main listening position but better in the back row with the diffusor behind the seats.

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Seriously though your room looks like a piece of fine art now.
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Kris,

Are you still planning on doing an in-depth review of your Legacy setup? I have read some of your impressions after the GTG several months ago, but I seem to recall you had planned to write a full review.

The room looks fantastic. I hope to be able to get to that point some day.

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Kris,

Are you still planning on doing an in-depth review of your Legacy setup? I have read some of your impressions after the GTG several months ago, but I seem to recall you had planned to write a full review.

The room looks fantastic. I hope to be able to get to that point some day.

That isn't going to happen. I looked into doing it but was denied by the powers that be. I honestly can't praise the Legacy stuff enough and it has found a permanent home in my setup but no review will be forthcoming unfortunately.

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Bummer for that. But hey, about the best endorsement you can give a product when you've listened to as many as you have is to actually buy it. So I guess you kind of like them then? wink.giftongue.gif Thanks.

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...Also replaced my ST130 screen material with the ST100.

That's a pretty calculated move that must be paying off quite nicely. Good thing you have the right room for it. From my research back when I was shopping for my first Stewart screen, I came across the ST100 and considered it heavily, but when adding velvet to the walls and ceiling of the living room went out of the window, so did the ST100 consideration. (Black paint was my limit!) How do you like it?
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That's a pretty calculated move that must be paying off quite nicely. Good thing you have the right room for it. From my research back when I was shopping for my first Stewart screen, I came across the ST100 and considered it heavily, but when adding velvet to the walls and ceiling of the living room went out of the window, so did the ST100 consideration. (Black paint was my limit!) How do you like it?

Fine so far. I will be doing a full review for the magazine. Basically a fine tuning screen from the ST130 I had before.

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Congrats on your room Kris. Awesome job! Anyone can see that you and your wife put ALOT of work into it. Function and beauty wrapped together for a very impressive outcome!   Well done!  

 

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I got to see and listen to Kris' theater first hand tonight and it was an audio and visual treat and one of the best experiences I have heard, including trips to Skywalker Ranch and its theater facilities. Kris has created one hell of a room!
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thats pretty sick man! I love the treatments. That style is right up my alley. NICE WORK.
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Hello Kris.
That is one very fine and well planned out room. It looks simply stunning and I am sure it looks and sounds fantastic as well. I am using a single original Seaton SubMersive HP as opposed to the F2's that you have. Plus I am using a Baetis server with Jriver. But mine is only the discontinued HT version. But I like it. Again, your room and gear are simply spectacular. I hope you enjoy it because it would be very sad if you did not. Plus, it's one of the few that I have seen that has a turn table. I have one as well and I do enjoy playing records. I do the best with what I have in my small room. I am not ashamed to say that I am jealous of people with big rooms. Anyway, again, the room from the treatments to the equipment is top notch.

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