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post #61 of 1626 Old 11-09-2013, 01:35 PM
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Wow Carp, that looks like an awesome room. Fantastic gear all around. I agree with wat Matt said. Going with PCM just made us turn up the level a bit but the SQ was equal to what I was used to with the TRU HD and DTS Master. By the way, adding up a total can be dangerous. If I told you mine it may make you think yours is affordable tongue.gif. On the PCM front, I have a few disks that have that as the only option when I pick an audio choice. Some BR's just don't have the other audio formats so you just need to pick that one instead.

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No problem Carp. The difference was 4db, so I'd suggest just keeping everything at PCM, and leaving the volume at the 4.0db volume setting, which is equavalent to the reference 0.0db volume setting.
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Wow Carp, that looks like an awesome room. Fantastic gear all around. I agree with wat Matt said. Going with PCM just made us turn up the level a bit but the SQ was equal to what I was used to with the TRU HD and DTS Master. By the way, adding up a total can be dangerous. If I told you mine it may make you think yours is affordable tongue.gif. On the PCM front, I have a few disks that have that as the only option when I pick an audio choice. Some BR's just don't have the other audio formats so you just need to pick that one instead.


Thanks Mike.

Yeah, I had always thought that I had a pretty bare bones low cost room other than the Noesis but you add it all up and it's crazy. I'm sure many here are in the 6 figures easy.
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No problem Carp. The difference was 4db, so I'd suggest just keeping everything at PCM, and leaving the volume at the 4.0db volume setting, which is equavalent to the reference 0.0db volume setting.


Ok, good to know. It's amazing how much of a difference 4 db's makes!
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No problem Carp. The difference was 4db, so I'd suggest just keeping everything at PCM, and leaving the volume at the 4.0db volume setting, which is equavalent to the reference 0.0db volume setting.
that is good to know. My PS3 seems to do everything in Multi channel PCM. So it sounds like dynamic range is not affected just 4dB of volume. thx
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Holy Molys, I've been away from AVS for quite some time! Your room has way more woofers than I remember!! Looking good!!

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
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Thanks Doug!

The pole is 4 feet from the wall, the room is 17'3 wide and 23 feet long.

Oooh man, it would be so nice not to have it - like you though I don't want to spend the money on it.


You know you have to have some of us over sometime to hear the G-Horns!!! Of course you are welcome to come check out my room sometime too if you'd like. smile.gif


I'd love to have the tour and steal some of your ideas for my upcoming remodel. Archaea is coming to check out the G-horn the 22nd - you are welcome to come along for the test-drive and give me some pointers for my setup. New eyes help design every time.
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I'd love to have the tour and steal some of your ideas for my upcoming remodel. Archaea is coming to check out the G-horn the 22nd - you are welcome to come along for the test-drive and give me some pointers for my setup. New eyes help design every time.


Ah man I wish I could, I have plans with the family otherwise I'd be all over it - I'll be grilling Jonathan about his impressions that's for sure. Thanks for the invite! smile.gif
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Since you have the center speaker below your big screen, do you feel that the center channel is too much below the ear height? Does dialogue sound obvious and weird?
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Since you have the center speaker below your big screen, do you feel that the center channel is too much below the ear height? Does dialogue sound obvious and weird?


In my room I've never known any different since I've never had an AT screen. I think it sounds great as is but I know that it will sound better if I go AT and put the speaker up vertical. The best sounding CC I've heard in my room was when a friend had the JTR 228 Noesis (little brother of my speakers) stacked on top of my CC. Part of the screen was blocked but it put the CC horn/CD right at ear level and did sound better than having the CC down by the floor. I don't want to make you think that a speaker down low will sound bad, that is not the case - it sounds really good in fact. When I'm watching a movie I never notice that dialogue is coming from below the screen for example. However, it is not 100 percent optimal and there is room for improvement as proven by stacking the 228.
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What anamorphic lens are you using on your Epson to get the 2:3 size picture? Really nice set-up and keep up the improving, like General Audio once said," Never stop improving!"

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What anamorphic lens are you using on your Epson to get the 2:3 size picture? Really nice set-up and keep up the improving, like General Audio once said," Never stop improving!"


Thanks man.

I'm not using one, I use the poor man's zooming method. smile.gif I can't see the black bars at all (even on dark scenes) with the velvet on my wall above my screen and ceiling.

I don't think I'll ever get a lens, but it would be nice someday to get a projector that automatically zooms from 16:9 to 2:35:1 at the touch of a button if it's not crazy expensive.
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In my room I've never known any different since I've never had an AT screen. I think it sounds great as is but I know that it will sound better if I go AT and put the speaker up vertical. The best sounding CC I've heard in my room was when a friend had the JTR 228 Noesis (little brother of my speakers) stacked on top of my CC. Part of the screen was blocked but it put the CC horn/CD right at ear level and did sound better than having the CC down by the floor. I don't want to make you think that a speaker down low will sound bad, that is not the case - it sounds really good in fact. When I'm watching a movie I never notice that dialogue is coming from below the screen for example. However, it is not 100 percent optimal and there is room for improvement as proven by stacking the 228.
What is the height of the center speaker horn from the floor level?
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It's 6 inches off the floor angled up on a custom stand. Not ideal and one of the only things pushing me towards an AT screen. It still sounds damn good though.
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It's 6 inches off the floor angled up on a custom stand. Not ideal and one of the only things pushing me towards an AT screen. It still sounds damn good though.

Is the AT screen a serious consideration? Or is the center working perfectas it is?

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
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Is the AT screen a serious consideration? Or is the center working perfectas it is?

I keep going back and forth on that. I love being able to watch tv and sports with the lights all the way on and I'm afraid if I move the screen up it won't look as great as it does now. It really is amazing how bright and good the image looks on my painted wall with the lights on 100 percent.

Plus i have a felling I'll be able to see shapes of things through the AT screen with the lights all the way up because I've noticed that in other rooms that have AT screens with the lights on.

At the same time it does bug me that my center is not at ear level, both for movies and when I listen to 5.1 channel music.

Eventually I think I'll have to try it and see which way has less compromises but it's going to be awhile since funds are low for quite some time.
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Hey Carp, Thought I would stop in on your thread. The first post that pop'ed up was your price break out. It really is crazy to think how quickly it all adds up isn't it. I was just guestamating how much I have spent on blu-rays. eek.gif Sad thing is I always buy them on sale and they still add up to far more then I would have imagined. We are finally starting to work on my theater again so I'll be updating my thread again soon. I hate to be "that guy" but I feel like we are going to need another movie night at your place again. I want to see / feel your riser with all those subs in there.
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Sounds good to me, I'd love to have you guys over. Grant was thinking he would have his room done this month and was going to have a movie night so I was waiting on him but if it looks like it will be a while maybe people would want to come over to my place. I'll ask him about it.
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I didn't know that directv had picture in picture!

Here is a great idea of any of you guys that have 2:35:1 screens and don't have sunday ticket or redzone.

I took the masking panels out and zoomed in on the side by side PIP option on directv, LOVE IT! It's easy to switch, just press the down arrow and the audio and screens swap. Basically I have a 90 inch tv and a 73 inch tv right now. The picture quality in person looks a lot better than the washed out picture, but here you go:


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Thats pretty sweet! Although I am a little jealous that one of your PIP is actually bigger than my whole screen! eek.gifcool.gif
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Thanks Bunga, however I'm jealous of you if you have redzone.... I really miss having that.
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So how did your time with Audyssey go? I know that Stitch came over and calibrated some. And then you did some tinkering yourself I think.
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Grant, I sent you a PM.
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Damn that PIP set up is like a sports fans heaven!

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
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Yeah, I wish I had discovered it sooner!
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Yeah, I wish I had discovered it sooner!

So how do I activate it?? It would be REALLY helpful during college football season.
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carp, how far is the MLP (first row seat) to the screen and LCR?
Is there a minimum distance for the 212 to sound good?
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Carp,

How do you manage 2.35:1 content? I'm sure the 8350 doesn't have lens memory.


Update: I missed where you said you were zooming by hand. That gives me hope. I have 2.35 aspirations but its definitely gotta be on the cheap.

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I didn't know that directv had picture in picture!

Here is a great idea of any of you guys that have 2:35:1 screens and don't have sunday ticket or redzone.

I took the masking panels out and zoomed in on the side by side PIP option on directv, LOVE IT! It's easy to switch, just press the down arrow and the audio and screens swap. Basically I have a 90 inch tv and a 73 inch tv right now. The picture quality in person looks a lot better than the washed out picture, but here you go:



I love this picture. smile.gif
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