Originally Posted by Kain
Got another question...
Is your equipment rack located in-room? If so, do you hear the fans in the pro-amps during use?
Edit: Noticed you have six ceiling speakers. Are you running x.x.6? If so, how is it with one row of seating? I've been told four ceiling speakers are plenty for one row of seating. Do your two additional ceiling speakers add to the experience even with one row of seating?
The equipment rack is in the room. Behind the couch is a closet (with the doors removed) that houses all the amplifiers, projector and pre/pro. Believe it or not, it's the projector that really makes most of the heat. The amp stack gets at worst 'warm'. Each and every amp is modded with quiet fans. Some more quiet than others. I can hear them just barely. It's not anywhere near as bad a stock. Ugh. But I can still hear them a bit. I think about modding some of the amps with even quieter ones but that requires more work than simply fixing a fan. So I haven't bothered. As this is said, the noisefloor is not too bad in my room. Could be better but better than most.
Yes, have run six overheads since September when I got Atmos. It is great with one row of seating. Mostly advantageous when sitting far off-axis at the edge of of the couch.
However.... I have disabled the Atmos-EX processing and been listening to "conventional" 4ch Atmos/DTS:X sound for a couple months now.
Reason being... I want to remove the two extra receivers. Not because I didn't like the sound (actually Atmos-EX works splendidly) but because of other mostly ergonomic reasons.
First, I like using the Yamaha APP to control it and a real remote for the OPPO. Don't ask me why, I just like working that way. No interest in a universal remote (lots of experience with Harmony) for this room. Just... no. So each time I go into the room I have to separately power up the two extra AVR's which sometimes I forget and then wonder why the overhead sound isn't so great.
They also add a little bit of hiss but it's pretty minor. Still, rather have none. Another reason is that the chassis for both tend to creak every so often or a relay will click. It's not predictable and when I hear it (right behind my head) it's a real immersion killer. Last but not least, they both produce a significant amount of extra heat into a room. A room with poor A/C circulation, a stack of amps and a projector and is hit by the sun ALL g'damn day. Plus it's in the 110's in the summer. F**k all that! I could do with two less things producing more heat in this little room. On top of all that, it's just two less things that need power and all those extra hook ups.
They are still in operation as they power all the presence speakers. I simply have them set to STEREO mode and are in full bypass. Eventually will remove both and in place will be a third iNuke 4-6000 amp. Sometime this year I'll do that. Would have done it already but I'm in debt after building an uber gaming PC. Smart move. Ugh. Broke as s**t.
For whatever reason when I first got my Yamaha with Atmos, the 4ch presence speakers did not ever sound very good. Middle overhead to the rescue! Or so I thought.... after a while and lots of fiddling, I found that the overhead sound can be just as good with just four speakers. Sounds odd but I tried both for real and I can say I am extremely happy with the overhead sound. So much so that I really don't care anymore about 6ch heights. Really, it's not even a priority anymore. I feel a bit embarrassed as I hawked on and on and on about them and it really did sound good but I was able to get the same sound with four speakers so.... might as well keep it simple, yeah? Sound great! When the day comes that regular priced gear starts to support native 6ch overhead sound then I'll get back into it. For now... I'm good.
Sooo... yeah, it was totally cool but for reasons other than sound quality, it will all be disabled. I will leave the speakers above cuz... well, I can't be bothered taking them down.
Originally Posted by chrapladm
Scott do you have a drawing or build pictures of your sub-riser? And how much depth does your mains take up?
I will very slowly be building a 10ft x 16ft room. And it looks like I will do something similar for screen size and mains. My mains will be only single 15's but trying to maximize subwoofer space also.
Mains are about 18-20" deep with everything considered.
Here are the only pictures I've ever taken of the subriser. No drawings. Designed it in my head.