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post #31 of 936 Old 07-14-2016, 06:51 PM - Thread Starter
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From the other night, getting ready to watch a movie.

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Nalleh, I don't have Denon AVR's so I am a little lost with the verbal hook up description... any chance you have this all drawn out? A connection diagram would be way easier to digest...

I think that I could budget for two AVR's (for example new 11 channel units) that would give me what I want...

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Nalleh, I don't have Denon AVR's so I am a little lost with the verbal hook up description... any chance you have this all drawn out? A connection diagram would be way easier to digest...

I think that I could budget for two AVR's (for example new 11 channel units) that would give me what I want...
Hi Al.

I am away on vacation at the moment, but i will see if there is something i can get done, to make it easier to visualize what i am doing.

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Hi Al.

I am away on vacation at the moment, but i will see if there is something i can get done, to make it easier to visualize what i am doing.
Nalleh, that would be great, much appreciated!

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Outstanding. Just incredible!

My set up: Samsung UN82nu8000 LED TV, Marantz SR7012, Emotiva XPA3, Sony UBP-X800
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Nalleh, that would be great, much appreciated!

Hi Al. I tried to make a drawing of how my setup is connected, but i am not sure if it makes it easier or harder to understand, LOOL.
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Hi Al. I tried to make a drawing of how my setup is connected, but i am not sure if it makes it easier or harder to understand, LOOL.
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Nalleh, great job and just what I was looking for, Thanks! I think I saw in another thread where you where explain about the A/B switches?

I gather that the 7200WA is the input AVR...

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Nalleh, great job and just what I was looking for, Thanks! I think I saw in another thread where you where explain about the A/B switches?

I gather that the 7200WA is the input AVR...
Yes, the 7200 is the main AVR. The reason my setup is overly complicated, is because in normal TV watching and such, i use just the 7200 in a normal 7.1.4 setup. When i watch movies, on the other hand, i switch everything on, for the full 11.4.10 Frankie-setup.

So in a permanently HT setup, you would not need all the switches, as the movie mode would be the only mode.

Basically with the swithes and third AVR(simply used as a multi-source powered speaker switch, with all three zones in use), i can choose if the 7200 or the 5200 should power the surrounds, surround backs, and wides. And extend the 7200 and 5200 from 9 to 11 channels.
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Yes, the 7200 is the main AVR. The reason my setup is overly complicated, is because in normal TV watching and such, i use just the 7200 in a normal 7.1.4 setup. When i watch movies, on the other hand, i switch everything on, for the full 11.4.10 Frankie-setup.

So in a permanently HT setup, you would not need all the switches, as the movie mode would be the only mode.

Basically with the swithes and third AVR(simply used as a multi-source powered speaker switch, with all three zones in use), i can choose if the 7200 or the 5200 should power the surrounds, surround backs, and wides. And extend the 7200 and 5200 from 9 to 11 channels.

Thanks for the details of your configuration, must be an impressive site in the rack!

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Updated first post with more pics, and updated gear list.

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How do you like that center channel? I have been looking at those lately.
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How do you like that center channel? I have been looking at those lately.
I love my Klipsch speakers, they are really dynamic and have plenty of power, more than i use, so they are great value for money.

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First, awesome system!

Second, which do you find you prefer from a sound quality standpoint - Atmos, DTS:X or AURO 3D? I am considering getting the Yamaha RX-A3060 or the CX-A5100 but they don't have AURO 3D and I keep reading good things about it. I also like the Denon and the Marantz systems and don't want to miss out if AURO 3D is the better option.
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I love my Klipsch speakers, they are really dynamic and have plenty of power, more than i use, so they are great value for money.

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I too run a Denon X7200 WA. Do you have video dropouts?
After watching stuff for just on 2hrs, I get 1-3 droputs in a row, lasting about 10-15 seconds each, with 2-3 minutes between them, then it seems to settle down again. This happens when using my JVC X3 projector not the TV.
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First, awesome system!

Second, which do you find you prefer from a sound quality standpoint - Atmos, DTS:X or AURO 3D? I am considering getting the Yamaha RX-A3060 or the CX-A5100 but they don't have AURO 3D and I keep reading good things about it. I also like the Denon and the Marantz systems and don't want to miss out if AURO 3D is the better option.
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Regarding upmixers, i probably use DSU most, on a daily basis, It works best with 2-channel PCM in normal TV watching.
When speaking about native format, i actually love Auro 3D. It has the most natural, dynamic and logical placements of sounds. DTS:X is a a bit like Auro and has great 3D soundscape, while Atmos is the least agressive of them all.

HOWEVER: the big problem with Auro is content. Or lack thereof.

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I too run a Denon X7200 WA. Do you have video dropouts?
After watching stuff for just on 2hrs, I get 1-3 droputs in a row, lasting about 10-15 seconds each, with 2-3 minutes between them, then it seems to settle down again. This happens when using my JVC X3 projector not the TV.
I had those problems when my 5200 was new, two years ago, but new HDMI cables solved it.

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I too run a Denon X7200 WA. Do you have video dropouts?
After watching stuff for just on 2hrs, I get 1-3 droputs in a row, lasting about 10-15 seconds each, with 2-3 minutes between them, then it seems to settle down again. This happens when using my JVC X3 projector not the TV.
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Dolby Atmos Setup Questions

I am looking for a little help in my set up of my Home theatre.
I run PSB speakers (Alpha B and C's...fronts, center,sub,side surround and back surround) and the new PSB Atmos speakers that sit on top of the front right and left speakers. I am only running front Dolby ATMOS speakers, no rears.
I have the Denon AVR-X4100W Receiver as well as the Denon AVR 3802 receiver.
The 4100 is driving all the speakers except the DOLBY ATMOS speakers, which are run from the 3802. (RCA pre out from the height speaker out on the 4100 to the front L/R in on the 3802. I have 2 subs which are run from the sub 1 and 2 pre outs on the 4100.

So... the question is in the Auddesey setup and what speaker setup to choose.

It gives me all sorts of options including 9.1 speaker, Dolby ATMOS Speaker and 7.1 speaker setups.
Which is correct?
I currently have it on 9.1 with front dolby speakers. Should I be using the Dolby ATMOS speaker configuration.???
A little confused here....any help would be appreciated.
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That is just a bonkers set up, in the most awesome ways. I am curious how large is that room? I mean it looks fairly small for the amount of speakers you have going on in there, I mean compared to the size rooms you normally see when people running a set up close to yours. Although there are probably not many running something near that complicated. But this place being what it is I am sure someone will chime in with their 32.16.153 9 AVR uber set up. And out of curiosity what remote do you use to control that bad boy? Im still amazed by the layout of it and that diagram. Heck I sitting here just finally getting ready to set up my first legit 5.2 set up.
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I currently have it on 9.1 with front dolby speakers. Should I be using the Dolby ATMOS speaker configuration.???
A little confused here....any help would be appreciated.
You have the correct setup.

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That is just a bonkers set up, in the most awesome ways. I am curious how large is that room? I mean it looks fairly small for the amount of speakers you have going on in there, I mean compared to the size rooms you normally see when people running a set up close to yours. Although there are probably not many running something near that complicated. But this place being what it is I am sure someone will chime in with their 32.16.153 9 AVR uber set up. And out of curiosity what remote do you use to control that bad boy? Im still amazed by the layout of it and that diagram. Heck I sitting here just finally getting ready to set up my first legit 5.2 set up.
Yup, you are correct, this is bonkers and totally overkill. I would probably be very happy with a normal 7.1.4 setup, but hey: i wanted to see if it could work And it does, rather exellent too

Good point about the room size, forgot about that:

5.1x4.1x2.4 meter

16.5Wx13.5Dx7.8H feet, or about 3000 cubic feet.

I use a Logitech Harmony Ultimate with two extra extenders(4 total+the hub of course), and it works perfect. The 7200 is switched to remote code ID2, so they work independently.

However when i am switching from TV to movie watching, i still have to do a couple of things manually, if it is Atmos:
Disable 7200 SB(to gain wides)
Switch SB over to 5200( powered from Yama's zone2)
Switch SURR over to 5200(sp.switch1)

So i still use the original remotes regurlary. But hey, i am pedantic

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Ok wow that is a fairly small room. Though my living room is not much larger. Man i bet that set up rivals a theater all day long. If nothing else that is one hell of a piece or wiring and engineering most setups i have seen on here that involved are probably in the $30,000 to $50,000 range
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$50,000 range
Halfway there, or thereabouts

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That's certainly a hell of a build for the money
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Here is a clip showing the Crowsons in use playing the drop scene from Lone Survivor:


I had REW going with RTA showing the chopper blades are at 6.5 Hz!!, and as you can see the whole couch is shaking. (Sorry for the dark video).
This is at MV -20.

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Heheh. Yeah. That scene is pretty epic for sustained single digit bass. A house and system wrecker.
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Yeah, even better than "F...king Irene"

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And here is the latest gadget, the B1200D-Pro.


Also shows the KEF beside it, as i used two of them as midbass earlier. Actually added conciderably more than i thought, but not near as much as the 1200, which is awsome. Insane punch out of that little gem.
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Hey Nalleh, what in you experience has been the best sounding movie and/or game you have heard on your system? I could have fun there playing some Call of Duty.
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Hey Nalleh, what in you experience has been the best sounding movie and/or game you have heard on your system? I could have fun there playing some Call of Duty.
Actually, i haven't played any games so far, lool. But i only play driving games anyway

Regarding movies, two moments stand out.

1. First time i played Transformers 4, the first Atmos movie in my freshly connected Atmos 7.1.4 system. Awsome, just awsome, i was flabbergasted

2. A little later, when i watched the movie Red Tails in native Auro 10.1. This was just jawdropping, and so much fun, i smiled the whole time.

But i now have over 100 Atmos titles, all the DTS:X ones and all Auro movies, so here are a lot of good ones.
Those who comes to mind are Gravity, Fifth Element, Pacific Rim, Jupiter Ascending, Lucy, both Ninja Turtle movies, Unbroken.....

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And here is the latest gadget, the B1200D-Pro.


Also shows the KEF beside it, as i used two of them as midbass earlier. Actually added conciderably more than i thought, but not near as much as the 1200, which is awsome. Insane punch out of that little gem.
Not surprised. Your speakers are tiny. You need this.

Should kick up the fun with this and Crowson's.
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