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Made some small changes to try and blackout the room a bit more. I took some cardboard boxes and added some triple black velvet to them, then stood them up in front of the subs. This helped to block out any light reflections coming from the top of the subs (which also have black velvet on them). I also added some velvet border tape to the speaker stands to help prevent light reflections from the screen being a distraction. So far, I am pretty happy with these little changes and it really helps get that "floating image" I am going for.
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^^^ Nice, black velvet helps sooooo much!!!
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Wow! That entrance is amazing
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My Monster BOSS setup:
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What do you think with the newest update?
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Still getting a feel for it. I think I may have let out a bit too much air from version 1, so hopefully I can rectify that and test again later.
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Monster BOSS updated to the 3rd and FINAL version, Version 3.


Write up I did on it after initial testing:

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Just absolutely loving my Monster BOSS setup right now! It's on a whole other level compared to my previous Hover BOSS setup! I just upgraded my 2nd Mini Riser last night to a Monster BOSS configuration and it's now also really good, but not exactly as good as my primary platform. I think it has to do with ride height, as the 2nd platform is about 1/4 inch to a 1/2 inch higher. Going to have to let out some air on it and get it down to the same ride height as the first platform, but for now, it will do nicely!
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Got the ride height on the 2nd platform all sorted out... It's all good in the hood now!
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It is sooo cool! Great change!
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Thanks @Vankyo ! It is small but really fun to watch movies in!
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Figured it's been a good while since I posted any pics, so here's some updated shots of the HT:
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And some more...


There's a few shots of the Monster BOSS tubes in there, and I stuffed some sound isolation foam under the BOSS all around to see if I could reduce the SPL a few dB's...
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^^^ Your room and setup are just so awesome!!! I never get tired of seeing pics of it . You’ve done an absolutely amazing job with it in a very short amount of time!!!! You have just added so many amazing additions to it, not just the TR part of it that we all know about fro over in the TR thread

Truly a killer setup you got there!!!!!!

Thanks for posting all the awesome pics. I don’t guess I realized you had such high a ceiling. I bet it’s great for a nice and big spacious sound too with your Atmos speakers . Also, I see your still rooking the side surrounds a little forward and angled forward of the seats. That's the best thing I ever did for my side surrounds in my small room.
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^^^ Your room and setup are just so awesome!!! I never get tired of seeing pics of it . You’ve done an absolutely amazing job with it in a very short amount of time!!!! You have just added so many amazing additions to it, not just the TR part of it that we all know about fro over in the TR thread

Truly a killer setup you got there!!!!!!

Thanks for posting all the awesome pics. I don’t guess I realized you had such high a ceiling. I bet it’s great for a nice and big spacious sound too with your Atmos speakers . Also, I see your still rooking the side surrounds a little forward and angled forward of the seats. That's the best thing I ever did for my side surrounds in my small room.
Thanks Shelby! Yeah, I love the side surrounds setup this way, it really helps provide great surround sound while not overwhelming people sitting in the outside seats, so it's been a great change (thanks for that idea)! I have 12 foot ceilings in this space, so yes, it's pretty great for an atmos setup, I just wish the room was deeper, but it is what it is so I have made it work the best way I can.
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Here's a few pics of my BK's all wrapped up nicely to keep them quiet and also showing the additional wood supports I added to help with occasional pops and creaks I would hear when the BK's got really active before. I am now able to really feel big movement when the BK's hit and it's freakin' awesome!
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And here's some recent updates on my Monster BOSS setup. Update #1 was doubling up the 2.5 Hudson ISO's and placing them under the front and back of the BOSS platform along the center line, about an inch in, which helps to provide some sharpness to the TR. Update #2 is the addition of spray foam along the inside area between the driver and the tubes. This was done to see if it could help seal the tops of the tubes a bit better and to see if it could improve the TR of the platform by shrinking the space within the sealed tubes.
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And here's some recent updates on my Monster BOSS setup. Update #1 was doubling up the 2.5 Hudson ISO's and placing them under the front and back of the BOSS platform along the center line, about an inch in, which helps to provide some sharpness to the TR. Update #2 is the addition of spray foam along the inside area between the driver and the tubes. This was done to see if it could help seal the tops of the tubes a bit better and to see if it could improve the TR of the platform by shrinking the space within the sealed tubes.
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I'm so confused because Nallah is sealed and you aren't quite. Is your setup techincally a monster hover boss?

edit: I now see the acryllic is very clear. Can't believe how many times I've looked at these and thought the acrylic was cut out in the center.

-The single digits are where the magic lies.....they deliver a 'touch of god' sensation that sometimes makes the hairs on one's arms stand up. It's hard to describe but it feels like you are there in the recording studio with the artist and "feeling" them move as they are playing the instrument. You can't see them, but you can feel them as movements are happening on the floor below you. - trhought

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I'm so confused because Nallah is sealed and you aren't quite. Is your setup techincally a monster hover boss?
Mine is a different seal. I have a clear acrylic disk that is sealed to the tube by double sided tape, and then further sealed with duct tape.

As for Monster, yes, I used that term to describe my hover boss setup since I am using truck tires, aka monster truck, so I dubbed it Monster BOSS.
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So, I noticed a few days ago that the bass didn't sound right, so I checked and found out one of my two 15 inch Monolith's wasn't working properly. I pulled it out of the theater and plan to try and RMA it soon, but in the meantime the show must go on. So, I re-ran Audyssey and the sub trim started out at around -9.5 or so, which is ok, I can work with that. I increased sub trim to -2.5 and then set the output to -2 on the mDSP for the remaining monolith 15 to bring the final boost to around 5db. I threw in one of my go to movies for testing, Hobbs and Shaw, and was pretty dang impressed with the sound of the sub, plus the TR was just crushing it! I didn't expect any difference whatsoever with my HoverBOSS, BB, etc. as I was running the AVR sub trim at -2.5 before re-running Audyssey, but lo and behold, TR was off the chain and just crushing it! If I thought that was possible I would have done it long ago. There is a scene where Hobbs is driving a large truck and turns the vehicle and I could really feel each bump very powerfully and distinctly. Also, when Brixton shoots the flamethrower at the scientist, it just rips and you can feel the power! And every big punch is just exponentially powerful, just love watching this movie with my TR rig!

Edit: Mystery solved. I went back to look at old Audyssey settings and it turns out last time I had an initial sub trim of -6 after calibration. I dropped that down to -1.5, so a boost of 4.5db. This time, I got an initial trim setting of -9.5 and dropped the sub trim down to 2.5 for a total of 7db boost, so that is the difference I am experiencing...
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So, I noticed a few days ago that the bass didn't sound right, so I checked and found out one of my two 15 inch Monolith's wasn't working properly. I pulled it out of the theater and plan to try and RMA it soon, but in the meantime the show must go on. So, I re-ran Audyssey and the sub trim started out at around -9.5 or so, which is ok, I can work with that. I increased sub trim to -2.5 and then set the output to -2 on the mDSP for the remaining monolith 15 to bring the final boost to around 5db. I threw in one of my go to movies for testing, Hobbs and Shaw, and was pretty dang impressed with the sound of the sub, plus the TR was just crushing it! I didn't expect any difference whatsoever with my HoverBOSS, BB, etc. as I was running the AVR sub trim at -2.5 before re-running Audyssey, but lo and behold, TR was off the chain and just crushing it! If I thought that was possible I would have done it long ago. There is a scene where Hobbs is driving a large truck and turns the vehicle and I could really feel each bump very powerfully and distinctly. Also, when Brixton shoots the flamethrower at the scientist, it just rips and you can feel the power! And every big punch is just exponentially powerful, just love watching this movie with my TR rig!

Edit: Mystery solved. I went back to look at old Audyssey settings and it turns out last time I had an initial sub trim of -6 after calibration. I dropped that down to -1.5, so a boost of 4.5db. This time, I got an initial trim setting of -9.5 and dropped the sub trim down to 2.5 for a total of 7db boost, so that is the difference I am experiencing...
well I hope those monos are fine! I almost bought one myself but arrived damaged and returned and lept on PB 4000 at SVS outlet store memorial day week. It arrives tomorrow.

The outside entrance to your theater is so incredibly well done. I've never seen anything better and you really use those 12 foot ceilings to great affect. that being said on the inside I wish the speaker draping and drapes were equally impressive, but I understand the trade-off for your picture quality and once you're sitting and watching that doesn't matter. Still I wonder about the drapes, aren't they somewhat reflective of sound and wouldn't wall treatments perhaps be better with speaker grill cloth? i'm just a parrot who has never done a Home theater with a big screen, so more just trying to get your thinking on it for my own education. I also love those back lights.

-The single digits are where the magic lies.....they deliver a 'touch of god' sensation that sometimes makes the hairs on one's arms stand up. It's hard to describe but it feels like you are there in the recording studio with the artist and "feeling" them move as they are playing the instrument. You can't see them, but you can feel them as movements are happening on the floor below you. - trhought
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well I hope those monos are fine! I almost bought one myself but arrived damaged and returned and lept on PB 4000 at SVS outlet store memorial day week. It arrives tomorrow.

The outside entrance to your theater is so incredibly well done. I've never seen anything better and you really use those 12 foot ceilings to great affect. that being said on the inside I wish the speaker draping and drapes were equally impressive, but I understand the trade-off for your picture quality and once you're sitting and watching that doesn't matter. Still I wonder about the drapes, aren't they somewhat reflective of sound and wouldn't wall treatments perhaps be better with speaker grill cloth? i'm just a parrot who has never done a Home theater with a big screen, so more just trying to get your thinking on it for my own education. I also love those back lights.

The monos are good for the money, but they do seem to occasionally go bad, so I have to deal with the RMA hassle every once in awhile. The PB4000 is a beast so you will be happy with that for sure! Thanks for the compliments on the theater entrance! As for the drapes, they are hung in a very pedestrian manner and not professional looking for sure. I'm not much of an interior decorator unfortunately, but it's not really an issue with the lights off. They do the job perfectly. I have big sliding glass doors on the far side of the room, and there are actually several layers of curtains, the original sliding panels, which I modified with black material to prevent light from penetrating, then a set of black curtains over that, then triple black fabric on top of that to prevent any light reflection from the screen. All in all, I don't find any acoustic reflectivity issues at all with this setup and it helps give me that black hole experience I always wanted. As for speaker grill cloth, it would reflect light so would not be better than triple black fabric. The whole goal is to see nothing but a floating movie screen when you're watching, so putting triple black velvet everywhere really helps achieve that goal, even if it looks a bit silly or whatever with the lights on.
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The monos are good for the money, but they do seem to occasionally go bad, so I have to deal with the RMA hassle every once in awhile. The PB4000 is a beast so you will be happy with that for sure! Thanks for the compliments on the theater entrance! As for the drapes, they are hung in a very pedestrian manner and not professional looking for sure. I'm not much of an interior decorator unfortunately, but it's not really an issue with the lights off. They do the job perfectly. I have big sliding glass doors on the far side of the room, and there are actually several layers of curtains, the original sliding panels, which I modified with black material to prevent light from penetrating, then a set of black curtains over that, then triple black fabric on top of that to prevent any light reflection from the screen. All in all, I don't find any acoustic reflectivity issues at all with this setup and it helps give me that black hole experience I always wanted. As for speaker grill cloth, it would reflect light so would not be better than triple black fabric. The whole goal is to see nothing but a floating movie screen when you're watching, so putting triple black velvet everywhere really helps achieve that goal, even if it looks a bit silly or whatever with the lights on.
I figured that it was "for the picture stupid" for those measures, so makes sense. I still think your son's girlfriend needs to do something about it hehe because well the entrance is incredbily cool. I'm one to talk as I'm one of those idiots who does not like room treatment for audio. I know a touch about projectors, but I kind of pick up stuff by osmosis from backtracking through the AVRant podcast (over 1 year back.) No doubt you've nailed the video, but I can't help thinking their might be a solution that would compliment your amazing theater entrance area visually with sonic benefits. I guess with the slider it has to be drapes and I've not doubt you've got the best material for the job of enhancing picture quality. And the 12 foot ceiling really make any kind of removeable seemless panel unwieldy. I'm stumped for solutions, but here are some straws:
1. For sound (and those fronts look pretty amazing, but I don't know them) I'd think narrow dispersion home theater fronts might eliminate the sonic impact of drapes.
2. For looks with subs maybe take the fabric and stretch it over a frame that is seperated from sub outside by a bit of foam so it can't resonate. Velvet box there would help.
3. If sub looks good then the more ambitous idea of a velvet case for speakers might work. This almost unworkable with all the drives, but maybe once could fashion a tight sock and sew back material for each driver so its like you have a velvet cased speaker.
4. One last crazy idea for the sliding glass wall. Install wall panels for all but the door with the fabric (maybe there is some kind of acoustic backing that would work or sound isolate.) so now you have flat black wall with your fabric. Then find some Alexa commnaned rollup screen or blind for above door that rolls down maybe even with a track so its a complete light seal. Then you stick Obi Wan Kenobi on other side of door.

I'll leave it alone, but the perfection of your entrance is the cause of all this. What are your back lights on the wall?

-The single digits are where the magic lies.....they deliver a 'touch of god' sensation that sometimes makes the hairs on one's arms stand up. It's hard to describe but it feels like you are there in the recording studio with the artist and "feeling" them move as they are playing the instrument. You can't see them, but you can feel them as movements are happening on the floor below you. - trhought

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