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Can anyone tell me the height of the arms on the Lagoon? Thanks!
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I spent about 2 hours at the warehouse this morning test driving the chairs. Based on my internet research, I had my mind made up about how I would rank the chairs based on price vs. features. All the chairs were extremely comfortable (which explains why my planned 30 minute visit exploded to 2 hours) however after sitting in them all for a good amount of time in person, I have a whole new completely subjective ranking now.

I was mainly interested in the Jive chairs for their smaller footprint, I didn't expect to care about a chair with an adjustable headrest (automatic or manual). But just like tjtv said, once I tried out an adjustable head rest I could understand how nice it really was. Using the push button headrest adjustment in the Escape was wonderful and had a real "cool" factor, however comfort wise I preferred the manual headrest in the Tribute. It basically tilted the entire top of the chair back forward, so both my head and shoulders were supported perfectly. I would't have known it was adjustable (or how to adjust it) unless I read about it first, where with the Escape you instantly know its adjustable thanks to the cup holder buttons. But based on price vs. feature vs. comfort, the Tributes jumped from last on my list to first. So right now for me it's a close race between first place (Tribute) and second place (Lagoon), I just have to narrow it down fast so I can get them in my theater to enjoy!
Great info, thanks! Just curious, what was is the reason you don't have the Escape higher on your list?

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I spent about 2 hours at the warehouse this morning test driving the chairs. Based on my internet research, I had my mind made up about how I would rank the chairs based on price vs. features. All the chairs were extremely comfortable (which explains why my planned 30 minute visit exploded to 2 hours) however after sitting in them all for a good amount of time in person, I have a whole new completely subjective ranking now.

I was mainly interested in the Jive chairs for their smaller footprint, I didn't expect to care about a chair with an adjustable headrest (automatic or manual). But just like tjtv said, once I tried out an adjustable head rest I could understand how nice it really was. Using the push button headrest adjustment in the Escape was wonderful and had a real "cool" factor, however comfort wise I preferred the manual headrest in the Tribute. It basically tilted the entire top of the chair back forward, so both my head and shoulders were supported perfectly. I would't have known it was adjustable (or how to adjust it) unless I read about it first, where with the Escape you instantly know its adjustable thanks to the cup holder buttons. But based on price vs. feature vs. comfort, the Tributes jumped from last on my list to first. So right now for me it's a close race between first place (Tribute) and second place (Lagoon), I just have to narrow it down fast so I can get them in my theater to enjoy!
So where do the Jives rank?
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I spent about 2 hours at the warehouse this morning test driving the chairs. Based on my internet research, I had my mind made up about how I would rank the chairs based on price vs. features. All the chairs were extremely comfortable (which explains why my planned 30 minute visit exploded to 2 hours) however after sitting in them all for a good amount of time in person, I have a whole new completely subjective ranking now.

I was mainly interested in the Jive chairs for their smaller footprint, I didn't expect to care about a chair with an adjustable headrest (automatic or manual). But just like tjtv said, once I tried out an adjustable head rest I could understand how nice it really was. Using the push button headrest adjustment in the Escape was wonderful and had a real "cool" factor, however comfort wise I preferred the manual headrest in the Tribute. It basically tilted the entire top of the chair back forward, so both my head and shoulders were supported perfectly. I would't have known it was adjustable (or how to adjust it) unless I read about it first, where with the Escape you instantly know its adjustable thanks to the cup holder buttons. But based on price vs. feature vs. comfort, the Tributes jumped from last on my list to first. So right now for me it's a close race between first place (Tribute) and second place (Lagoon), I just have to narrow it down fast so I can get them in my theater to enjoy!
I know what you mean about extending your stay at the warehouse. I did the same exact thing. I think I spent at least an hour there sitting in the chairs.

That said, I went the Jive route. I didn't have a choice though because I needed the smaller footprint for four chairs. I've had my Jives about 14 months now and they work as well as the day I got them. No signs of wear and tear either. Couldn't be happier. The Fusion line rocks.
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Great info, thanks! Just curious, what was is the reason you don't have the Escape higher on your list?
While the escape scored very high on comfort, I have a small basement theater that is 10 feet wide and am (was?) trying to get 6 seats in there. Escapes are the largest seats in the line and there is no way I could fit a row of three.
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So where do the Jives rank?
For me the Jives rank last. I was eying them for their small footprint in order to fit two rows of three in my room, but I was more comfortable in the less expensive and only slightly larger Lagoons. There is a possibility I could get a row a three Lagoons in there, there is no way I could get a row of three escapes and the tributes would be REALLY tight. The room is 10 feet wide but there is a section next to the stairs that is only 9'7" which is right next to the rear row.

What I'm thinking I'm going to do is get 4 Lagoons and play around with them in the room to see how 3 in a row would feel. If it's too cramped then I just stick with the 4, otherwise I pick up the other 2. While I did some mock-ups with the furniture already in the room, its hard for me to gauge until I have the real thing.
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can anyone tell me the height of the arms on the lagoon? Thanks!
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For me the Jives rank last. I was eying them for their small footprint in order to fit two rows of three in my room, but I was more comfortable in the less expensive and only slightly larger Lagoons. There is a possibility I could get a row a three Lagoons in there, there is no way I could get a row of three escapes and the tributes would be REALLY tight. The room is 10 feet wide but there is a section next to the stairs that is only 9'7" which is right next to the rear row.

What I'm thinking I'm going to do is get 4 Lagoons and play around with them in the room to see how 3 in a row would feel. If it's too cramped then I just stick with the 4, otherwise I pick up the other 2. While I did some mock-ups with the furniture already in the room, its hard for me to gauge until I have the real thing.
Very helpful, I wonder why the jives are more expensive? Paying more for a smaller footprint? Features look similar.

Anyway, I was looking at jives too due to small footprint, I guess I will see how much bigger the lagoons are, I like the look better too. Did they rank last due to comfort due to the narrower width and shorter back height?
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Very helpful, I wonder why the jives are more expensive? Paying more for a smaller footprint? Features look similar.

Anyway, I was looking at jives too due to small footprint, I guess I will see how much bigger the lagoons are, I like the look better too. Did they rank last due to comfort due to the narrower width and shorter back height?
The Jives do have more features than the Lagoons which I believe justify the higher price and the narrower width is not an issue, you barely notice it. Maybe it was the shorter back height...? I'm not sure I can pinpoint it. I do like to sit up high in chairs because of back issues. Still though, me saying I thought the Jives rank last among the other Fusion chairs is like saying Car and Driver ranked the Lamborghini Veneno last against the McLaren P1 and the LaFerrari. Jives were still more comfortable than the other Palliser and Berkline chairs I tried out and they are MUCH more comfortable than the seating I have in the theater now from Mealey's.

The chairs are now ordered so I can post some pics when I have them setup if that would be helpful too.
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Since this seems to be the most active thread on any of the Fusion chairs, I thought I'd ask this here. Has anyone had any weird issues with the buttons? I'm in my 3rd year of ownership of the Fusion Escape and 1 of the chairs started having button issues. A few weeks ago the chair closed on it's own then remained stuck for about a day. It eventually started working again. It happened again just now. The cool button works, none of the headrest or footrest buttons work though, although they all remain lit. Power cycling has no effect.
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You need to make sure that all the wires are firmly plugged in. First place to check is a control box that is inside on the bottom of the chair arm. There are 3 plugs there. Unplug and plug them back in to ensure firm connection.

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are the fusion series seats built to be used daily or just as a "theater" seat?

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Not sure what the difference between a chair that is used daily and a "theater" seat you may think would be, but there are plenty of our customers who use the chairs every day for 2-3 hours with no problems whatsoever.

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Not sure what the difference between a chair that is used daily and a "theater" seat you may think would be, but there are plenty of our customers who use the chairs every day for 2-3 hours with no problems whatsoever.
I am considering putting the seats in my living room instead of my sectional. You can configure them many different ways so that if you like a loveseat or sofa look they can be set up like that too. I'm trying to figure out where to place my other pieces (breakfront, buffet) so that I can fit the seats reclined with the furniture. My husband is not quite on board, but my grandchildren are all excited about Grandma's new Theater/Living room with the cool movie theater seats.
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Not sure what the difference between a chair that is used daily and a "theater" seat you may think would be, but there are plenty of our customers who use the chairs every day for 2-3 hours with no problems whatsoever.
I should have phrased my question a little better. Is the expected quality and durability of the theater seats comparable to that of a standard commercially available sofa? Granted the reviews are all stellar but it seems like most of the reviews are from people with dedicated theaters. I ask because I will be replacing my main tv viewing area and want to make sure the fusion series seats will hold up to the daily usage by my family.
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I am considering putting the seats in my living room instead of my sectional. You can configure them many different ways so that if you like a loveseat or sofa look they can be set up like that too. I'm trying to figure out where to place my other pieces (breakfront, buffet) so that I can fit the seats reclined with the furniture. My husband is not quite on board, but my grandchildren are all excited about Grandma's new Theater/Living room with the cool movie theater seats.
You can definitely place the chairs in various configurations, but there are some limitations on what you can do with the certain style groups.


For example, if you like to build a 3-4 seat couch, you can only do it with the Lagoon-1011, Jive-1013 and Tribute-1015 style groups. With the Streamline-1017 and Escape-1019 you can only do loveseats. The reason is that the all controls are on the cup holders, so the armless pieces would not have a place for a cup holders, so they are not available with this style groups.

Other than that you can do curved, straight, with and without the loveseats, etc...

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I should have phrased my question a little better. Is the expected quality and durability of the theater seats comparable to that of a standard commercially available sofa? Granted the reviews are all stellar but it seems like most of the reviews are from people with dedicated theaters. I ask because I will be replacing my main tv viewing area and want to make sure the fusion series seats will hold up to the daily usage by my family.
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I have had quite a few customers who purchased their chairs for their family rooms, and not a dedicated home theater rooms, and never had any complaints.

As a matter of fact, if you browse through this thread you will find some pictures of the chairs in family/media rooms, and not a dedicated home theaters.

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If you complete your personal information, ie: where you live, perhaps someone in your area that has purchased Roman's seats can offer you a "sit -in" demo?
My home is always available for demo's in the Sacramento Ca. area. I'm sure others would offer the same "demo".
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Would anyone be willing to let me try their Fusion Escape or other Fusion chairs somewhere near the Raleigh, NC area?

EDIT: Never mind; I splurged on 4 Escape's today.

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Hello Fusion owners,


I am really close to finishing my theater renovation and am starting my quest for the best bang for the buck in home theater seating. I am also interested in demoing these seats. Unfortunately, I live in Southern California. Are there any fusion owners willing to demo their seats. I would be interested in demoing any seats in the fusion line. Thanks in advance.
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Has anyone ever mixed and matches seats?

For example, having a curved row of 3 Escapes in front and a straight row of 4 Jives in the back? Would this look bad?
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mrted46,

I have two Escape chairs for my front row and I have four Jive chairs for my second row on a riser...looks great and works perfectly for my room layout.
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I am ready to pull the trigger on a row of 3 Escapes from Roman, I just want to ask those who own them, If a 6'2" with a wide frame would have any trouble in these chairs (in your opinion)?

Also, I am considering adding buttkickers to each chair, I've never experienced these, are they a nice addition?

I am nervous ordering chairs I have not sat in, but reading all the reviews on here, I feel more confident. Thanks
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I just want to ask those who own them, If a 6'2" with a wide frame would have any trouble in these chairs...
I am 6'3" with a medium frame (200lbs) and I have plenty of room...

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Yes, I have the BK Advance in one chair and my wife loves it. I have Crowson TMA under my chair and love the added realism.

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I was as well but Roman is super and the chairs are really amazing!
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I would say you should fit just fine. I'm 5'10 /235-240, and I have more than enough room. They seem to have plenty of length / height, so unless you have short midget legs and a giant torso, it should fit you well

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I am ready to pull the trigger on a row of 3 Escapes from Roman, I just want to ask those who own them, If a 6'2" with a wide frame would have any trouble in these chairs (in your opinion)?

Also, I am considering adding buttkickers to each chair, I've never experienced these, are they a nice addition?

I am nervous ordering chairs I have not sat in, but reading all the reviews on here, I feel more confident. Thanks
I am 6'3" with a wide frame (275 lbs) and there is plenty of room. I can even sit with my arms beside me, not up on the arm rest. You'd have to be quite wide to not be comfortable.
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The Escapes are massive, I have 4 of them. I'm 6' tall, 205 lbs. If I sit all the way back in them, my feet don't even touch the floor and I haven't experienced that since I was a child. There is more than enough room on either side of me, sometimes one of my dogs will even curl up next to me in them, they are 40-50 lbs each. If I had one critique, I'd like a bit better support in the lower back... but I have a bad back so take that with a grain of salt. They are plenty comfortable to sit through a long sporting event or multiple movies, and the motorized headrest is amazing - it would be hard to live without that once you've had it.

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I am sold, placing order. Thanks for your inputs!

I will give my review when they are in.
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My home theater is in the finishing stages right now. I have been taking pictures each step of the way and will be posting a thread with the photos when it's done.

Anyway, last December after having looked for months, I discovered the Fusion Escape collection. Interested in these chairs I sent Roman a PM. Within the hour Roman had replied via email answering every question plus some. When I decided to place the order for 6 Escapes, all correspondence was done via email. Any time I sent an email with a question I received a reply very quickly. I was concerned about ordering the chairs so early because I knew I wouldn't be ready for them for a while. Roman said it wouldn't be a problem because he would resolve any issues I might have. The Escapes arrived the first week in January. The boxes were a little beat up but no holes and no apparent damage. They sat in boxes until this past weekend when my son and I unpacked and set them up. One of the stainless steel accessory spindles had some rust and was all scratched up. Not a major concern but I figured I could live with it. The other thing we found was that one of the left cup holders was cracked and the headrest controls didn't work.

I sent Roman an email last night before I went to bed and the very first thing this morning I had already received a reply saying that a new cup hold and spindle would be sent out. Now that's service!

All the other chairs arrived in good condition, looked great and boy are they comfortable! I am about 6'3" and weigh about 330lbs and these chairs fit me great. I was concerned being such a big guy that they'd be too narrow, but they aren't. They are very wide and extremely comfortable.

I read a lot of threads here before I decided to buy from Roman. By the time I ordered I was convinced I was dealing with a reputable man. I never had a doubt about placing the order and I knew when I found couple issues that he would take care of them, and he did.

If you are considering making a home theater chair purchase, I would definitely recommend Romans products and service. I won't get into the negative experience I had with another theater seat dealer (nobody from this forum), but I'm glad they tried their car salesman tactics on me because when that deal fell apart I ultimately made a much better choice.

So why am I writing this? I am writing this because truly personalized customer service is a thing of the past these days. If you send an email you might get a reply a few days later and most of the time you never receive a reply. When you don't get a reply you have to waste time calling, sitting on hold and sifting through a sea of menus. I think the level of customer service that Roman provides is rare these days and people should know that real customer service does still exist.
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Can you tell me what the actual seat dimensions are on the Streamline? (21" H, 22" D, etc.?) Thanks.
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Can you tell me what the actual seat dimensions are on the Streamline? (21" H, 22" D, etc.?) Thanks.
Stremaline-1017 seat dimensions are 20.5 H x 20.75 D x 23.75 W

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