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Hope a new release comes out soon. I wish there was an option to turn off the "Now Playing" when starting a movie and just let the posters cycle.
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Novice here.

Is it possible to have it display directly whatever is being played in my Oppo UDP-203?
Not automatically, but you can use the "Manual Now Playing" plugin to trigger the now playing screen to show for the length of the movie. When the plugin is enabled you can select a movie from the cache and use the options menu to start 'Manual Now Playing'
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Hey Meyer, welcome back. I was stupid and after setting up the light marquee WIP around the digital display I finally got up I forgot to take a photo of it to share. So here's just the light marquee that started this morning as a 4x8 sheet of 1/2 MDF and a 2x4 stud.




Now I hope we can get caught up on all the questions being posted about your awesome little program that does great big things!
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Hey Meyer, welcome back. I was stupid and after setting up the light marquee WIP around the digital display I finally got up I forgot to take a photo of it to share. So here's just the light marquee that started this morning as a 4x8 sheet of 1/2 MDF and a 2x4 stud.




Now I hope we can get caught up on all the questions being posted about your awesome little program that does great big things!
Would love to see a build thread/post on how you made it. I was planning on making one after I finished my HT but I kept getting stymied on how to do the lighting. Yours looks awesome.
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Ping pong balls and chase lights.

Might be this thread. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/32-th...r-marquee.html

But go digital.....
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Ping pong balls and chase lights.

Might be this thread. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/32-th...r-marquee.html

But go digital.....
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Yes that is a bit of the basis. The lights are WS2812 RGB LEDs controlled by an Arduino Nano clone. The frame is very basic. Made out of 1/2" MDF and a 2x4 Stud I milled down to 2x2. Basically a simple box for the sides and a face frame for the face. Drilled out the holes for the LEDs and put it all together with wood glue and drywall screws. The 2x2 is used for a frame that attaches to the wall and then the back of the box slips over that and is secured.

I might be able to do more of a write-up a bit later but overall it's a very simple concept and design. Still not finished yet but that was the state it got to before wall mounting (which presented it's own problems) and finishing work being done.
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I hope you do a write up. These things are pretty awesome.

I was wondering who would be the first to combine these two approaches. And now I know.

I gather you are going to run 1080x1920 and not maintain the poster aspect ratio? I have 10,000+ digital posters, and two of them, are actually 1080x1920 in aspect ratio.

I am toying with the idea of using an Audrino for screen masking control.
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No, the TV will run the program pretty much as normal. I've just changed the settings so it displays a banner at the top and bottom of the frame with the poster in the middle, like this.





Here is the 3D model I built in Sketchup.






A breakdown of all the sections.






Close-up of the box and face frames as completed. You can see just how simple the design is.






My cut list layout. Used just over 25% of a full 4'x8' sheet of 1/2" MDF.





The LEDs will be diffused by hot glueing pingpong balls over the openings. This does make a nice effect but I found the cheap pingpong balls ordered vary in quality with some being very thin walled and others thicker. I'll be using as many of the thicker as I can because they don't dent as easy and they diffuse better. The thin wall ones make it easy to see the light source directly.

As mentioned, the lights are controlled by an Arduino Nano clone. I found this website with a fantastic pre-written sketch that offers a ton of different light sequences. I'm no master coder but I was able to decipher what parts of the code I needed to in order to get different actions for the theater chase mode, as well a changing the sequences order. Hans, who wrote this article and sketch, is very helpful and fully willing to offer suggestions and advice. I still have a few things to tinker with and am hoping to be able to use the Arduino to control a few of the TV's functions.

Tweaking 4 All


Basic video of the theater chase program.

https://www.tweaking4all.com/wp-cont...Chase.mp4?_=19


His tutorial does a very good job of explaining how to hook-up your Arduino, a SPST switch and the LEDs. I will share my sketch code as well once I've got it worked out.


A few notes. The entire physical project took about 6 hours to complete while dealing with some cold rainy weather. I was going faster than I should have and next time I would take a trip to my dad's to borrow his biscuit joiner for the connections of the face frame. They did not line up completely flush after being secured to the box frame and the biscuits would have kept them even. Once everything is filled, sanded, painted and installed no one will know but just a good woodworking practice.

Getting the spacing for the lights was made easy with Sketchup using the simple clone and divide commands. If you don't know Sketchup and are looking at doing any sort of projects like this I HIGHLY recommend getting it and learning some of the basics. Designing this project took me about 10 minutes, with several hours more tinkering. Once you learn how to draw simple shapes and use groups (very key) the rest comes with practice and watching YouTube videos.

WS2812B RGB LED String

A big note though is that using Sketchup for the lights layout left a slight error. I was using fractional units to 1/16" but the spacing was actually about a 1/64" larger. The space between each light is shown as 2 9/16" but if I'd laid out the first light at the spacing and carried on I would have been 3/16" out by the time I got to the final light. This is true for both the side spacing and top spacing. To compensate I divided each section of lights on each board into 4 sections and the spacing between each section gained an extra 1/16". This way I added the 3/16" difference up over the coarse of the row but it's imperceptible.

Getting the TV hanging on the wall vertically level has been a great challenge and then aligning the frame around it even more of a challenge. Because this hangs on a stub-wall above a staircase leading down to the theater it's a very difficult job. I think next time I would build the frame with a full 1/2" back sheet and then mount the TV mount exactly in place to the back sheet with a couple screws and the 2"x2" frame around the outer edge. The back sheet would then be easy to put against the wall and level plus screw directly into studs. Then put bolts into the studs through the TV mount as well. Mount the TV and slide the box frame over and enjoy.
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Wow, I’m working through this crazy thread but it’s taking time. I’m ready to pull the trigger on a raspberry PI and donation to this worthy cause; just have a hard time understanding the config. How does the software running on a dedicated PC know what movie a separate Plex agent on an Apple TV is playing? Apple TV playing a movie in the theatre and raspberry PI running the movie poster app - is it the Plex server that tells the movie poster app what’s playing?
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Wow, I’m working through this crazy thread but it’s taking time. I’m ready to pull the trigger on a raspberry PI and donation to this worthy cause; just have a hard time understanding the config. How does the software running on a dedicated PC know what movie a separate Plex agent on an Apple TV is playing? Apple TV playing a movie in the theatre and raspberry PI running the movie poster app - is it the Plex server that tells the movie poster app what’s playing?
I haven't configured mine to talk to Plex, but I did have it working with Kodi. It's pretty simple, in that you point the app to the media player in the config.
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I haven't configured mine to talk to Plex, but I did have it working with Kodi. It's pretty simple, in that you point the app to the media player in the config.
That is using one device for Kodi and another for MP?

I'm still trying to get a few answers about pushing custom posters to the displays and it you can access the web remote on another computer. Both would be very helpful for my set-up.
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A couple more WIP pics.










And a quick video.


The lights should be white but the phone camera picked them up as quite purple. This is just one of a number of programmed sequences. The frame itself still needs work. Paint, trim and deciding just how to run the wiring. I'm resolved to it being crooked unless I spend a bunch of time trying to level everything out. More difficult than it sounds.

And yes, still haven't used a registration code yet. Purchased but finalizing all aspects before comiting to this equipment.
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Has anyone had any issues with getting the Showtimes feature to work recently? It appears that the program is having difficulty downloading the banner graphics for the movies, so when you try and setup the showtimes there are no graphics. When I run the log file, there are events that seem to support it:

5/25/2019 12:46:06 PM - Show Next
5/25/2019 12:46:06 PM - Getting posterDisplayObject by IMDB: tt6320628
5/25/2019 12:46:06 PM - tt6320628 is in the cache, loading from cache.
5/25/2019 12:46:06 PM - Found Local Trailer for tt6320628
5/25/2019 12:46:07 PM - Loaded PosterDisplayObject for tt6320628 - Spider-Man: Far from Home
5/25/2019 12:46:07 PM - VIEWED POSTERS has more than 5 items.
5/25/2019 12:46:07 PM - Nothing Is Playing.....Updating From Cache
5/25/2019 12:46:07 PM - Found Local Trailer for tt6320628
5/25/2019 12:46:09 PM - Saving ExtraArt for tt6320628.
5/25/2019 12:46:09 PM - Error saving ExtraArt for tt6320628to the cache. - Could not load file or assembly 'Newtonsoft.Json, Version=6.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=30ad4fe6b2a6aeed' or one of its dependencies. The located assembly's manifest definition does not match the assembly reference. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80131040)
5/25/2019 12:46:12 PM - Updating UI started for Spider-Man: Far from Home : tt6320628
5/25/2019 12:46:13 PM - Using Transition Effect: Fade
5/25/2019 12:46:14 PM - Updating UI Finished
5/25/2019 12:46:15 PM - temp Pause Off
5/25/2019 12:46:15 PM - temp Pause Off

I am wondering if it has something to do with Windows 10 updating and breaking something. I cleared the app data and even installed a fresh version of the app and it still happened. I also tried running a clean copy on another computer (also running windows 10) with the same issue.

I have also noticed a small bug where if you create a custom list with a space in the title the app has trouble and creates a second list with %20 in place of the space as part of the title. If you do this you can't delete the custom list and have to delete the app data folder to remove it. At least, that has been my experience.

Overall, I absolutely love the app and think its amazing.
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If you can't be there live then this is the second best way to watch!

New preview of the still WIP frame before it was taken down to be finished and painted.

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Good morning all. I have been successfully using this software for a while and then forgot about it when I moved. I've got the software running from an Intel Compute Stick and it's connected to my Plex server. The issue I'm having is that the software constantly crashes after displaying posters for anywhere from 10-20 minutes. This didn't used to happen.

Does anyone here have any idea what might be going on?

I'm running the most recent development version (2.3.0.3).

Thanks in advance.
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Hello everyone. It seems that I have neglected to keep to keep up on this thread. I'm glad you've all been having fun without me
I am finishing up a new dev build which addresses a few issues, mainly the "kodi black screen now playing issue"
I am currently traveling for work but hope to get it posted in the next couple days.
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Any word on an update that resolves the "Kodi 18 Black Screen Now Playing" issue?
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Amazing program. Starting up the official thread for my theater build and will be highlighting this over there!
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JD SmartHome Digital Movie Boards

Has anyone seen or had any experience with JD Smarthome's digital movie boards? They look really nice for those of us not really wanting to DIY it. I spoke to the owner JD for a little while (great guy) and yes, the board comes pre loaded with movie posters BUT he also said that we can hook the MoviePoster App up to it. Seems like a great option but curious if anyone has seen or tried these?? Haven't pulled the trigger on it yet but thinking about it. Thoughts?
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OK those look cool. I saw the size is 50" but is that a standard 50" 16:9 TV or 50" diagonal at 27x40" ratio?

It also make me wonder if MP (or another version) can do something similar to this idea. Display a poster from any specified source as MP does now, then transition to a movie from your Kodi library and pull the ClearArt/ClearLogo and FanArt plus the trailer and display similar to the second video does. That would be pretty awesome to!

My Kodi library has all that artwork and trailers saved locally for every movie. Being able to run that sort of display would be incredible.
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$1500?!?!?! Ygtbfkm?!?!?
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and you get a messed up poster aspect ratio, free....
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$1500?!?!?! Ygtbfkm?!?!?
Go look at how much people spend on just the controller box for D-Box chairs. Never mind the chairs themselves nor the yearly subscription fee.

$1500 may seem steep but it's a 4K display in a beautifully finished frame and it doesn't appear to be very thick at all. There is also custom software included. None of that comes cheap if you don't want to go the DIY approach.
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Go look at how much people spend on just the controller box for D-Box chairs. Never mind the chairs themselves nor the yearly subscription fee.

$1500 may seem steep but it's a 4K display in a beautifully finished frame and it doesn't appear to be very thick at all. There is also custom software included. None of that comes cheap if you don't want to go the DIY approach.
Samsung 50" 4k TV, $330. Wood frame from Home Depot, $45. Software $40. Time to build frame, 3 hours, free. Yeah, that seems pretty cheap.
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Samsung 50" 4k TV, $330. Wood frame from Home Depot, $45. Software $40. Time to build frame, 3 hours, free. Yeah, that seems pretty cheap.
Not sure why you need to be so obtuse?

I've certainly spent a lot more than 3 hours building the custom frame I've done, and it's 4.5" from the wall not what looks to be 1-1.5". It also cost more than $45. There will be over $100 in moldings alone.

Your pricing calculation also didn't consider the software playback device which for MP is a Windows based machine.

And who's to say this is just a Walmart special "4K" display?

Those frames look professionally made and as it is being done for a business there are overhead costs and in general businesses do like to make some sort of profit. If you think it's too expensive for you that's fine, but then again a Ferrari would be too expensive for you as well. Doesn't mean others who can afford one shouldn't be able to purchase one.
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Yea I mean I have to agree. Based on what I’m seeing on the site you can’t compare this to a DIY for $100 at Home Depot. This is a custom made frame that sits an inch or two from the wall. Take a look at this video he posted

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aR1FJUpuJkA

It does trailers too in a creative way - it looks like it’s able to synch movie stills with the appropriate trailer. It’s definitely an elevated quality of product.
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Not sure why you need to be so obtuse?

I've certainly spent a lot more than 3 hours building the custom frame I've done, and it's 4.5" from the wall not what looks to be 1-1.5". It also cost more than $45. There will be over $100 in moldings alone.

Your pricing calculation also didn't consider the software playback device which for MP is a Windows based machine.

And who's to say this is just a Walmart special "4K" display?

Those frames look professionally made and as it is being done for a business there are overhead costs and in general businesses do like to make some sort of profit. If you think it's too expensive for you that's fine, but then again a Ferrari would be too expensive for you as well. Doesn't mean others who can afford one shouldn't be able to purchase one.
Obstuse: Slow to understand. I understand it quite well.

I did forget the PC. $130 more.

Frame can be done with this even cheaper than $45 and looks pretty damn good if painted. https://www.homedepot.com/p/3-4-in-x...4306/203818368

But I was referring to something like this since it's natural oak... https://www.homedepot.com/p/House-of...5000/100484655

I can find a dozen more examples for under $50. BTW, a single piece of 8-foot 3" casing is only $21. https://www.homedepot.com/p/House-of...9584/202705423

The price of a Ferrari is like trying to compare it to a Chevy. This guy is NOT selling Ferraris. He is taking OEM parts and putting them together at a ridiculous price. There is business overhead but not to the tune of 3-5X the cost of the parts. This is the reason these guys do this for a year or two, sell a few and then disappear. There are a lot less guys that can afford Ferraris than Chevys.

I would love to see what software he is using. I would not be surprised if he DID not developed this himself but using some shareware app customized to work as a poster marque. BTW, don't even get me started on charging $50 for poster packs. $50 for images that are technically copyrighted and he should NOT be selling.
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So because you think the price is ridiculous you are going on a long tirade about how much better you can make one?

Why don't you show us what you've built?

You also assume that anyone who doesn't want to spend $1500 but wants a digital poster display has both the time and equipment to go the DIY route. Not to mention the knowledge of how to put everything together.

I own a BBQ. I can pick up a nice steak for 10 bucks, season it and grill it myself. I can also go to the chophouse and pay someone else to do all of that for me and it will cost a lot more. I guess, in your opinion, all restaurants should shut down because anyone can buy the raw ingredients cheaper and commit their own "free" time to cooking for themselves and save a lot of money.

$1500 for those displays isn't anywhere near outside the realm of pricing for a niche item in a niche market. I bet you've got plenty of items in your home that cost a lot more than 3-5x their invested costs. The shirt you are wearing right now likely cost 200% it's production.
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There's a huge difference between creating a product from raw materials like a shirt or pants or even like a RS3000 projector, which I own, that has to be built from custom parts to a product that is nothing more than buying off-the-shelf parts (this product doesn't seem to have any parts that are not off the shelf, except for maybe the app which I still doubt), putting them together for 3-5X the price of what you bought them off the shelf.

Same goes for your food analogy. The food at a restaurant is made from raw materials and cooked by a very talented individual(s). I should know, I can't cook to save my life. If it doesn't come from a can that cannot be microwaved I cannot make it.

As far as my build, it is ready to be put together once I finish my theater room. I am currently in the first stages of painting. Once it is done I will definitely post images of it. I have already posted images from my hush box that I built from scratch since I was not going to pay over $10-13,000 for the commercial options out there...for the same reasons I have for this so called product.

This thread is about Movie Poster, a completely custom software that was made from meyer64's RAW talent and no off-the-shelf products that were just put together and resold.
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I would love to see what software he is using. I would not be surprised if he DID not developed this himself but using some shareware app customized to work as a poster marque. BTW, don't even get me started on charging $50 for poster packs. $50 for images that are technically copyrighted and he should NOT be selling.
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So because you think the price is ridiculous you are going on a long tirade about how much better you can make one?
IMO, the only things that matter are:
- People will pay what they want for something they enjoy
- enovision: Since you talked to this guy, can you confirm if he's selling poster packs and if they're appropriately licensed?

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