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Love my Fusions but the leather squeaks - Help please...

Just as the title indicates all. I've got (6) Fusion seats. I've had them in place for a few years and love them. However for some odd reason front row of (3) wants to squeak like mad when they are being reclined/closed (nothing mechanical, just the leather doing it).

I have the leather/vinyl combo seats, not the bonded leather. Whats the consensus regarding best product to use to mitigate the darn leather squeaking? Can't handle my boys laughing cause the front row seats sound like someone is farting all of the time lol.

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Try applying paraffin wax to the areas that rub against each other. It will take care of squeaking.
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Try applying paraffin wax to the areas that rub against each other. It will take care of squeaking.
Something like this?

Paraffin Wax Bars

This stuff is listed as 'food grade' wax; not for use in Therapeutic Paraffin baths.

Is this what I want?
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could be or you can get something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Paraffin-Hous...V7RBSM7SQK95GQ
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could be or you can get something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Paraffin-Hous...V7RBSM7SQK95GQ
Ordered thank you!

I'll check back and confirm it worked well!
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I've used Armor All leather conditioner as a quick fix in the past, but doesn't last forever. I'll give the paraffin a go.
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could be or you can get something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Paraffin-Hous...V7RBSM7SQK95GQ
Ordered thank you!

I'll check back and confirm it worked well!
Definitely let us know! I have the same “squeak” on my chairs that Id love to get rid of.
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Definitely let us know! I have the same “squeak” on my chairs that Id love to get rid of.
These bars are FINALLY going to be here today. I'll get it going and see what happens and report back.

What I am puzzled about is the fact that all 6 of my seats are the exact same. Back row no sounds whatsoever (in the few years I've had them) but front row sounds like a cow is dying under the seats when I open them haha

Not sure why but we'll see how the paraffin works!
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Always on point Jeff, great vid thanks! Believe it or not, reducing/eliminating the squeak from my front row seats will be one of the nicest upgrades to my theater in '19

You reconsider and willing to build me some of your amazing column grills yet? I want those things!
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Love my Fusions but the leather squeaks - Help please...

Would like to thank everyone on this thread for good suggestions. Paraffin wax bars finally arrived today. After an hour of elbow grease all six of my seats are completely silent when opening and closing!

Best value of any tweak I have done to my theater. I’ll check back to let you all know how well this solution holds up over time.

Something to consider if you go this route: after waxing sit in the seats to test and confirm you got it right as this will redistribute the weight and cause alternate friction points to squeak. Especially on older seats you are sure to have a couple pesky sounds creep up that are not present if you open and close without any load on the seat.
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A little squeak can be useful to wake you up when someone is trying to sneak out of the theater.
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Something to consider if you go this route: after waxing sit in the seats to test and confirm you got it right as this will redistribute the weight and cause alternate friction points to squeak. Especially on older seats you are sure to have a couple pesky sounds creep up that are not present if you open and close without any load on the seat.
You want to apply the wax to all the surfaces that rub against each other - sides of the backs, sides of the arms, sides of the seating cushion...

It works, I have done it many times, and it does eliminate squeaking completely if applied to all the surfaces.
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A little squeak can be useful to wake you up when someone is trying to sneak out of the theater.
LOL - My wife reluctantly agreed to watch The Conjuring the other night (she doesn't like scary movies). Indeed, she squeaked right out of the theater about half way through the movie lol

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You want to apply the wax to all the surfaces that rub against each other - sides of the backs, sides of the arms, sides of the seating cushion...

It works, I have done it many times, and it does eliminate squeaking completely if applied to all the surfaces.
Yep, first time doing it so I'm sure I missed some spots. Regardless, paraffin bars worked like a charm - seats are completely quiet!

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paraffin bars worked like a charm - seats are completely quiet!
Good to hear that!
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Love my Fusions but the leather squeaks - Help please...

Tried the seats tonight and 2 of them have a squeak again already. By-and-large they are all good and I’m pleased.

Still, makes me think I’m not applying enough wax. My bars are very hard. Would heating VERY SLIGHTLY prior to application provide benefit?

I believe I’ve got the right material in the paraffin bars. Somehow they just seem too hard to apply enough wax where it is needed...

Any thoughts with this?
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Yes, you may want to do that, and spread some on the rag. That will allow you to get into tight spots.
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Yes, you may want to do that, and spread some on the rag. That will allow you to get into tight spots.
thanks Roman will do.
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leather squeeking is a sign its not supple leather...meaning its not good quality/worn out...some have tried talcum powder, I usually return or dont buy....but if had no choice to return problably put a seat cover on em.

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Squeaking is not caused by poor and not supple leather. We use high quality top grain leather on the chairs. Squeaking is caused by leather rubbing against a matching vinyl that is on the sides of the chair arms.

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I'm going to try heating the parrifin wax as stated above. Going to move from there taking @rsh advice and apply with cloth to seats. Believe this will do it.

@torii thanks for suggestion for talcum powder. results any good from using this from what you have learned?
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I'm going to try heating the parrifin wax as stated above. Going to move from there taking @rsh advice and apply with cloth to seats. Believe this will do it.

@torii thanks for suggestion for talcum powder. results any good from using this from what you have learned?
I have used leather creams/conditioners. If friction seems to be causing the squeak, sprinkle baby powder or talcum powder on the noisy area.

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I have used leather creams/conditioners. If friction seems to be causing the squeak, sprinkle baby powder or talcum powder on the noisy area.

https://www.hunker.com/13403872/reme...-leather-chair
thanks for the tip. I"m going to stick with the paraffin bars ATM but if it doesn't hold up I'll get the powder.

I'll check back with results!
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Heating the paraffin bars, although it proved to be messy, seems to have helped some. Most of the seats are still very quiet several days later.
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This is a great tip - my seats have squeaked for years. I bought the paraffin wax bars from the Amazon link above. Laid a multifiber cloth on a table and rubbed the wax into it and then rubbed on the chairs where the vinyl contacts the leather while opening/closing -sides of the seat and back as Roman noted above. Voila no more squeak! Thank you for this tip
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This is a great tip - my seats have squeaked for years. I bought the paraffin wax bars from the Amazon link above. Laid a multifiber cloth on a table and rubbed the wax into it and then rubbed on the chairs where the vinyl contacts the leather while opening/closing -sides of the seat and back as Roman noted above. Voila no more squeak! Thank you for this tip
You are very welcome. I am glad it worked for you.

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This is a great tip - my seats have squeaked for years. I bought the paraffin wax bars from the Amazon link above. Laid a multifiber cloth on a table and rubbed the wax into it and then rubbed on the chairs where the vinyl contacts the leather while opening/closing -sides of the seat and back as Roman noted above. Voila no more squeak! Thank you for this tip


Kula would you mind linking to the cloth you bought? Did you heat the bars at all or use the coarse multi fiber cloth to really work the wax into the bars?

My chairs are mostly squeak free currently but I’m looking for a better way to apply wax next time. Trying to apply the un-warmed bars direct to the seats did not produce satisfactory results. As such i decided to heat the bars. It worked but that got messy.

Sounds like you may have come up with a better solution. Thanks in advance for any help.
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I have 2 different headphones that squeek with my every move. focal elear and fostex trp60. I have tried lithium grease, ptfe spray, wd40, nothing lasts more than a few days....I hate squeeks so much I have those headphones collecting dust. did the talcum powder work? I feel your pain.

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...My chairs are mostly squeak free currently but I’m looking for a better way to apply wax next time....
Buy some beeswax.

Buy some cotton cheesecloth.

Melt beeswax in doubleboiler (It melts at lower temp than paraffin—145 degrees. Don't heat it above 185 degrees as it will turn brown.).

Saturate cheesecloth in the melted beeswax.

Wring out the cheesecloth. Wear rubber gloves.

Once the beeswax cools, the cheesecloth will be a bit stiff—but not like with paraffin wax—and a bit tacky.

When you're ready to use it, work it in your hands to warm it and soften it up.

Apply it just to the leather surfaces.

Smells like honey.
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Kula would you mind linking to the cloth you bought? Did you heat the bars at all or use the coarse multi fiber cloth to really work the wax into the bars?

My chairs are mostly squeak free currently but I’m looking for a better way to apply wax next time. Trying to apply the un-warmed bars direct to the seats did not produce satisfactory results. As such i decided to heat the bars. It worked but that got messy.

Sounds like you may have come up with a better solution. Thanks in advance for any help.
Yes I bought the Quickie Jobsite Heavy Duty Microfiber Cloths at Home Depot: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Quickie-...RM12/300247741

I didn't heat the wax but laid the heavy cloth on the table, holding it at the end closest me. I took a bar of wax and pushed it onto the cloth away from me, starting at the end I was holding. This allowed me to get a decent amount of wax to adhere and the friction melted it a bit. Then I rubbed it onto the chair. I had tried rubbing the bars on the chairs directly and that did nothing
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