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Looks like $1899 is still the best of the best on the B8 65 right now. I am down to: (1) $1899 on massdrop; (2) sticking with BestBuy at $1999 plus tax or (3) taking a 65C8 for $2099. Opinions are welcome.
If you can get the BB card, the price drops to 1799. Or pay 1999 over 24 months with no interest.
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If you can get the BB card, the price drops to 1799. Or pay 1999 over 24 months with no interest.
Already have a bb card. So no extra ten percent. So it’s 1899 on massdrop and pay now or 1999 plus tax (140) via Best Buy. Or go for 2099 c8 and pay now.
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If you can get the BB card, the price drops to 1799. Or pay 1999 over 24 months with no interest.
From what the sales rep said when I went back to actually make the purchase, the $200 you save by getting the BB card was in reward points that you can then redeem after 30 days on something else. I didn't really want to come back and buy more s*** so it wasn't worth it.
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So, I'm down to $1999 plus tax at best buy for a B8 with 24 months free financing ($2120 total) or taking a C8 for 2099 no tax and no financing.

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Thanks. Still way higher than Massdrop and Greentoe. I wonder if BB would match that with the gift card since BH is on their match list?
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They don't charge tax outside of NY State.
Just to temper the B&H deal a bit.
Is there $225 of stuff stuff they sell you want to buy?
Maybe a flat panel mount?
That's the one catch so far. I already stocked up on my immediate needs when I bought the 55" originally, heh.
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Thanks. Still way higher than Massdrop and Greentoe. I wonder if BB would match that with the gift card since BH is on their match list?
Their customer service chat told me they won't, but I haven't asked in store.
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Brand new. Go to the store. Magnolia rep said sometimes in store can be lower. They were as surprised as I was.
You were definitely right. Another in-store confirmation -- the 65'' B8 is $1999 at my local store.

EDIT: The salesman also mentioned the sale price is guaranteed through Saturday, and that it's not likely to go any lower. He said LG might decide to extend the sale price, but he'd be surprised if it goes any lower because "this is their Super Bowl sale price". He mentioned LG is putting its SB prices out this week and that Sony will be next week -- so anyone interested in Sonys might want to watch for similar discounts in a few days.
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I'm really struggling with the B8 v C8 debate. On the one hand, I had to pay MORE for the B8 from bestbuy knowing I can get the C8 today for $20 less. But I lose the 24 months and I lose the security of being able to physically take the TV back to bestbuy. Right now, I'm leaning toward the B8. My one big issue is I do watch a lot of regular TV and DTV and the C8 v. B8 forum indicates upscaling is better on the C8.

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fwiw, my Netflix subtitle brightness issue was totally fixed with changing the color and transparency of the subtitles via Netflix's account settings page https://www.netflix.com/SubtitlePreferences


Change the font color & background to semitransparent & personally I changed the color to yellow & size to small. Not nearly as eye melting. Maybe a thinner font and no shadow might help too.
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where are you seeing a 65" C8 for $2099?

 
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Their customer service chat told me they won't, but I haven't asked in store.


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Is that a new development? They're still listed here: https://www.lg.com/us/authorizeddeal...ized_retailers

To clarify my earlier post, Best Buy told me they would price match the sale price of B&H -- just not the gift card offer.
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I'm very interested in the B8 65". The Massdrop deal does seem pretty compelling... or Best Buy (in store) if one wants to go with a Bricks & Mortar merchant.
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where are you seeing a 65" C8 for $2099?
Newegg has it. But it’s from gameliquidations. Can anyone clarify whether buying from an unauthorized dealer means no warranty? LGs website is deceptive and vague on the issue stating only that the warranty “may” not be honored. I’m still not seeing any compelling evidence that the c8 offers and advantage over the b8 to the average viewer (me).
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Are you sure, they are still listed as authorized. What’s your source?
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I'm very interested in the B8 65". The Massdrop deal does seem pretty compelling... or Best Buy (in store) if one wants to go with a Bricks & Mortar merchant.
Following up on my question, massdrop is listed by LG as unauthorized. However massdrop promises a full manufacturers warranty and massdrop is certainly trustworthy. I have zero clarity on whether it matters who I buy the set from. That said, Best Buy gives me 30 days price protection and the ability to physically return a less than great panel. And 24 months is valuable to me because I can avoid tapping savings.
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Following up on my question, massdrop is listed by LG as unauthorized. However massdrop promises a full manufacturers warranty and massdrop is certainly trustworthy. I have zero clarity on whether it matters who I buy the set from. That said, Best Buy gives me 30 days price protection and the ability to physically return a less than great panel. And 24 months is valuable to me because I can avoid tapping savings.
Both MD and BB seem to be good options. The price difference in my case works out to about $220. For that price, and given the good reviews on MD by prior buyers, I am likely to go that route. On the other hand, should the panel be defective then it seems like the only option is a return for refund. Since I have a working set now, and I think the odds of a defect are low, that possibility doesn't concern me too much. But I can see the value for some in the bricks&mortar option.
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My source is my LG vendor at Best Buy. Plus, we have a price matching app, BH is nowhere to be found there.


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You were definitely right. Another in-store confirmation -- the 65'' B8 is $1999 at my local store.

EDIT: The salesman also mentioned the sale price is guaranteed through Saturday, and that it's not likely to go any lower. He said LG might decide to extend the sale price, but he'd be surprised if it goes any lower because "this is their Super Bowl sale price". He mentioned LG is putting its SB prices out this week and that Sony will be next week -- so anyone interested in Sonys might want to watch for similar discounts in a few days.
hm, I wonder how low they'll drop the Sony prices. I tried to get BB to drop their price on the A8F based on a counter offer price I had from Greentoe (authorized vendors only) and they wanted no part of it. If their SB price drop is going to be close to that Greentoe offer I'd be inclined to go with my local BB.
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I'm really struggling with the B8 v C8 debate. On the one hand, I had to pay MORE for the B8 from bestbuy knowing I can get the C8 today for $20 less. But I lose the 24 months and I lose the security of being able to physically take the TV back to bestbuy. Right now, I'm leaning toward the B8. My one big issue is I do watch a lot of regular TV and DTV and the C8 v. B8 forum indicates upscaling is better on the C8.
Does your BB have the B8 set up in the Magnolia room? One of my local BBs were running NFL Films, 1080i material, in their Magnolia room so it made it easier to compare how the various tvs upscaled material that I am likely to care about. I don't know if I trust them entirely though since the E8 looked way better than the C8 and from what I've read they should look identical. The rep claimed they have different processors and that's a closely guarded LG secret. I've never heard that anywhere else which is what makes me wonder if they could be trusted. They may have calibrated the E8 but not the C8. When I asked him to put both tvs on the same picture setting he fumbled around and acted like he had the wrong remote for the E8 so I ended up having my doubts about the place.
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Does your BB have the B8 set up in the Magnolia room? One of my local BBs were running NFL Films, 1080i material, in their Magnolia room so it made it easier to compare how the various tvs upscaled material that I am likely to care about. I don't know if I trust them entirely though since the E8 looked way better than the C8 and from what I've read they should look identical. The rep claimed they have different processors and that's a closely guarded LG secret. I've never heard that anywhere else which is what makes me wonder if they could be trusted. They may have calibrated the E8 but not the C8. When I asked him to put both tvs on the same picture setting he fumbled around and acted like he had the wrong remote for the E8 so I ended up having my doubts about the place.
I am fairly certain there are no secret differences between the c8 and e8 other than the stand and speaker. So that sounds like a bunch of BS.
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Does your BB have the B8 set up in the Magnolia room? One of my local BBs were running NFL Films, 1080i material, in their Magnolia room so it made it easier to compare how the various tvs upscaled material that I am likely to care about. I don't know if I trust them entirely though since the E8 looked way better than the C8 and from what I've read they should look identical. The rep claimed they have different processors and that's a closely guarded LG secret. I've never heard that anywhere else which is what makes me wonder if they could be trusted. They may have calibrated the E8 but not the C8. When I asked him to put both tvs on the same picture setting he fumbled around and acted like he had the wrong remote for the E8 so I ended up having my doubts about the place.

Your post is a great example of why you should never trust a BB employee - still shaking my head at this one. Any difference in picture would have been due to how the panels were calibrated or a setting they chose. The E and C are exactly the same, ex the sound bar of the E. As posted above - BS.
As for the C and B debate, don't forget the C series is brighter (100 nits), that is going to make a difference on HDR content and is one reason LG was picked over the previous Sony OLEDs in the HDR category for the various shootouts - they could not match the peak brightness of the LG.

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Your post is a great example of why you should never trust a BB employee - still shaking my head at this one. Any difference in picture would have been due to how the panels were calibrated or a setting they chose. The E and C are exactly the same, ex the sound bar of the E. As posted above - BS.
As for the C and B debate, don't forget the C series is brighter (100 nits), that is going to make a difference on HDR content and is one reason LG was picked over the previous Sony OLEDs in the HDR category for the various shootouts - they could not match the peak brightness of the LG.
I'm interested in the peak brightness issue. Since by all accounts, the panels themselves are the same, is this just a software issue? I can't imagine the chip can lead to a brighter screen. Are they dialing back the B8 on purpose to justify the price difference? Interestingly, I believe I read the B7 actually had higher peak brightness than the C8. Could this just be panel disparity? I know Rtings mentioned the differences between the B8 and C8 are close enough that it could just be panel variance. Just wondering if the brightness issue has been put to rest. I was going to grab the C8 off of BH for a price match of the Newegg deal but now BH apparently is not authorized either. The warranty issue is troubling. I emailed first class TVs about the issue and they indicated that in their experience most customers get warranty service from LG but they would not guarantee and instead suggested I buy their extended warranty. Well, no thanks. If I need to pay $250 for an extended warranty, it defeats the savings of an online grey market transaction. LG's website is sufficiently vague to give me concern that one day they just might stop providing warranty support if you buy from an unauthorized dealer. Even Massdrop is listed as unauthorized. The whole thing is shady all around and clearly designed to cause the consumer to just pay more for piece of mind. However, LG is clearly "in on it" otherwise there wouldn't be grey market sellers all over the place. They are getting the TVs from somewhere. This is all really crappy to the consumer. It's forcing me to stick with bestbuy even though it's costing me an extra $240.

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I'm really struggling with the B8 v C8 debate. On the one hand, I had to pay MORE for the B8 from bestbuy knowing I can get the C8 today for $20 less. But I lose the 24 months and I lose the security of being able to physically take the TV back to bestbuy. Right now, I'm leaning toward the B8. My one big issue is I do watch a lot of regular TV and DTV and the C8 v. B8 forum indicates upscaling is better on the C8.
Since you have both a C8 and a B7, can you comment on real world PQ differences? Any burn in issues?

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I'm interested in the peak brightness issue. Since by all accounts, the panels themselves are the same, is this just a software issue? I can't imagine the chip can lead to a brighter screen. Are they dialing back the B8 on purpose to justify the price difference? Interestingly, I believe I read the B7 actually had higher peak brightness than the C8. Could this just be panel disparity? I know Rtings mentioned the differences between the B8 and C8 are close enough that it could just be panel variance. Just wondering if the brightness issue has been put to rest. I was going to grab the C8 off of BH for a price match of the Newegg deal but now BH apparently is not authorized either. The warranty issue is troubling. I emailed first class TVs about the issue and they indicated that in their experience most customers get warranty service from LG but they would not guarantee and instead suggested I buy their extended warranty. Well, no thanks. If I need to pay $250 for an extended warranty, it defeats the savings of an online grey market transaction. LG's website is sufficiently vague to give me concern that one day they just might stop providing warranty support if you buy from an unauthorized dealer. If Massdrop is listed as unauthorized. The whole thing is shady all around and clearly designed to cause the consumer to just pay more for piece of mind. However, LG is clearly "in on it" otherwise there wouldn't be grey market sellers all over the place. They are getting the TVs from somewhere. This is all really crappy to the consumer. It's forcing me to stick with bestbuy even though it's costing me an extra $240.

The Rtings review goes into detail about it - 100 nits isn't just a panel variance issue so who knows what the deal is, but numbers don't lie. I'm the wrong person to ask where to buy, I like the convenience of being to take something back especially given that there are a few things that you need to check, uniformity and dead pixels being a few. That being said there are plenty of owners who have taken advantage of the various deals offered on this thread and gotten great displays/prices. You should also know that in all the years I've been on AVS I have never come across one buyer who was denied a warranty claim because of where they bought it from. If that had ever happened I guarantee you that there would be a long thread on the subject.
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The Rtings review goes into detail about it - 100 nits isn't just a panel variance issue so who knows what the deal is, but numbers don't lie. I'm the wrong person to ask where to buy, I like the convenience of being to take something back especially given that there are a few things that you need to check, uniformity and dead pixels being a few. That being said there are plenty of owners who have taken advantage of the various deals offered on this thread and gotten great displays/prices. You should also know that in all the years I've been on AVS I have never come across one buyer who was denied a warranty claim because of where they bought it from. If that had ever happened I guarantee you that there would be a long thread on the subject.

I went through multiple panels with my last TV before getting a good one and the ability to drive to Best Buy is valuable. If I actually had to pack the tv back up and return it to someplace like Massdrop, the savings to me would not be worth it. I think I'm sticking with the B8 from bestbuy at 1999. I am loathe to pay an extra $220 but the hassle of a potential return isn't worth it.
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The Rtings review goes into detail about it - 100 nits isn't just a panel variance issue so who knows what the deal is, but numbers don't lie. I'm the wrong person to ask where to buy, I like the convenience of being to take something back especially given that there are a few things that you need to check, uniformity and dead pixels being a few. That being said there are plenty of owners who have taken advantage of the various deals offered on this thread and gotten great displays/prices. You should also know that in all the years I've been on AVS I have never come across one buyer who was denied a warranty claim because of where they bought it from. If that had ever happened I guarantee you that there would be a long thread on the subject.

I went through multiple panels with my last TV before getting a good one and the ability to drive to Best Buy is valuable. If I actually had to pack the tv back up and return it to someplace like Massdrop, the savings to me would not be worth it. I think I'm sticking with the B8 from bestbuy at 1999. I am loathe to pay an extra $220 but the hassle of a potential return isn't worth it.
What you say makes sense for a $200 difference. When it comes to more than $2k difference for eg Lg 77C8, it’s difficult to justify the inconvenience unless one makes that much not to care about and if that’s the case then they won’t care about deals anyway 🙂
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What you say makes sense for a $200 difference. When it comes to more than $2k difference for eg Lg 77C8, it’s difficult to justify the inconvenience unless one makes that much not to care about and if that’s the case then they won’t care about deals anyway 🙂
Agree. Frankly much more than 200 and it would be worth it. I’ve spent hours of my life this week torturing myself over this. I can’t wait for the drop to end tonight so the option is off the table.
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