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I'm absolutely gutted I missed the BuyDig deal. I saw it less than 10 hrs after it was posted here, but it was already sold out

I was hoping anything close not even necessarily the same deal would pop up on an authorized outlet but to no avail. Is there any chance we'll see a deal before March 2020? I'm very close to giving up and get the ebay $1699 before that's also gone, but then again I've waited for a long time as is and March is only months away uggh
There is always a chance but based on history the absolute best prices a the week leading up to BF and through that weekend. Otherwise you will see good discounts late Jan-Early Feb for Super Bowl sales. The only other significant drops will come at end of model year when they closeout previous year. Them discounts will depend on several factors including relevancy, excess stock and demand. I still see deals on 2018 C8 and E8 models.

Honestly the window just passed for absolute best deal(s). The closeouts may be at a better price point but by then you would most likely be looking at newer models.
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I'm absolutely gutted I missed the BuyDig deal. I saw it less than 10 hrs after it was posted here, but it was already sold out

I was hoping anything close not even necessarily the same deal would pop up on an authorized outlet but to no avail. Is there any chance we'll see a deal before March 2020? I'm very close to giving up and get the ebay $1699 before that's also gone, but then again I've waited for a long time as is and March is only months away uggh
I felt your pain. It only took 2 or 3 hours for that deal to sell out. I mourned for a couple of days thinking if that deal existed, another one just like it was bound to come along. When things started going the other way, I pulled the trigger on one of those two ebay deals, especially after I saw the first one go away. It was only $100 dollars more than the BuyDig deal, hardly worth noticing over the life of the set.

And if the TV is in good shape, as it most likely is, and I can get the factory warranty doubled because of the credit card I used, as I most likely can, it really won't matter if it was an authorized or unauthorized seller.

My advice? Do it. It's Christmas; let Santa make it rain. The second deal via "Five-star-buy" is still available and we ain't gettin' any younger. 'The Expanse' premieres in 4K on Prime in less than a week.
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Honestly the window just passed for absolute best deal(s)
Keep me honest please, but so far during this holiday/BF season there was nothing for the C9 to write home about apart from the BuyDig deal - of course only counting authorized dealers. I've been following it closely but has been very disappointed by the lack of deals on the C9.

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I felt your pain. It only took 2 or 3 hours for that deal to sell out. I mourned for a couple of days thinking if that deal existed, another one just like it was bound to come along. When things started going the other way, I pulled the trigger on one of those two ebay deals, especially after I saw the first one go away. It was only $100 dollars more than the BuyDig deal, hardly worth noticing over the life of the set.

And if the TV is in good shape, as it most likely is, and I can get the factory warranty doubled because of the credit card I used, as I most likely can, it really won't matter if it was an authorized or unauthorized seller.

My advice? Do it. It's Christmas; let Santa make it rain. The second deal via "Five-star-buy" is still available and we ain't gettin' any younger. 'The Expanse' premieres in 4K on Prime in less than a week.
I thought the same especially because there weren't many deals at the time and it was only Friday :/

Haha and you have the Irishman, which I refuse to watch until I get my C9 despite family and friends' high praises. My only concern going that route is LG panels and the poor QA they go through. Now I haven't been following closely to see if these problems still exist in the 2019 models, but I know older models had many issues with that.
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If you will be able to use Rakuten points, there seems to be a fairly good deal right now at authorized dealer Electronics Express. They have the 65c9 for $1876.50 and you earn $412.72. So, assuming you can use the points it would be $1463.78 plus tax if applicable.

I just placed an order there as I had some points to use ($558.31) and have been holding out for an authorized dealer just to play it safe so I can buy a Square Trade warranty from Costco (just had a 65C7 that underwent repairs and they were checking if purchased from authorized dealer) and get the Disney + for a year.

So, using my accrued points, my total came to $1513.35 and I earned another $412.72 in Rakuten points and $18.76 cashback. This is the best deal I could find at the moment and I think if you have a use for the Rakuten points the best deal I have seen. I figure I will use the newly earned points to purchase a soundbar for the C7 I moved into the bedroom.
Do you have a link to this? I don't see it for that price on the Electronics Express website.
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Do you have a link to this? I don't see it for that price on the Electronics Express website.
You have to go to Rakuten https://www.rakuten.com/shop/electro...u=OLED65C9P-RB
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Ad says refurbished. Is that how they get around MAP?

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Keep me honest please, but so far during this holiday/BF season there was nothing for the C9 to write home about apart from the BuyDig deal - of course only counting authorized dealers. I've been following it closely but has been very disappointed by the lack of deals on the C9.
On higher end equipment you really wont see a lot of great BF deals, just a very few. Like I said no one has a crystal ball but I seriously doubt you will see below 1700 for the next 1-2 months(1800 authorized) I do believe Greentoe is accepting 1799 if they have them back in stock.

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Ad says refurbished. Is that for they get around MAP?
No way they would say refurb if it's not. lol


Here's the C9 $1699 deal from five-star-buy https://www.ebay.com/itm/264365052819


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On higher end equipment you really wont see a lot of great BF deals, just a very few. Like I said no one has a crystal ball but I seriously doubt you will see below 1700 for the next 1-2 months(1800 authorized) I do believe Greentoe is accepting 1799 if they have them back in stock.



No way they would say refurb if it's not. lol


Here's the C9 $1699 deal from five-star-buy https://www.ebay.com/itm/264365052819

My bad. Didn't see the refurb on that one. Sorry. They do have one new that comes out to about the same after getting $700 plus Rakuten points.

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Here's the non-refurb. Comes out to $1495 after you get your cash back.

https://www.rakuten.com/shop/electro...uct/OLED65C9P/

Edit: Looks like you get $702 in cash you need to use through Rakuten rather than the normal cash back.

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Here's the non-refurb. Comes out to $1495 after you get your cash back.

https://www.rakuten.com/shop/electro...uct/OLED65C9P/

Edit: Looks like you get $702 in cash you need to use through Rakuten rather than the normal cash back.
Looks like they reduced the cashback now on both. $592.92 for new and $318.82 for the new/damaged box.

I confirmed with EE on my order from earlier that item is new and it is just a scuffed box. If when I receive it and open it up and it looks like it has been repackaged I will send back as I have a screenshot. I have ordered directly from EE in the past and never had a problem. Got my Denon 4500 through them.

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Here's the non-refurb. Comes out to $1495 after you get your cash back.

https://www.rakuten.com/shop/electro...uct/OLED65C9P/

Edit: Looks like you get $702 in cash you need to use through Rakuten rather than the normal cash back.
Yes, you do have to spend points on Rakuten. But, as I said I just used 55,831 points on this TV, so they can be used for a good value if you are patient. However, you do also get 1% back as actual cashback as well.

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Yes, you do have to spend points on Rakuten. But, as I said I just used 55,831 points on this TV, so they can be used for a good value if you are patient. However, you do also get 1% back as actual cashback as well.
With INKJET panel printing for 2020 OLED tvs ,and Samsung moving to introduce QD-OLED there should be some interesting prices coming out next year. Something to soothe those who may have missed the BIG DEALS this go round.
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Yes, you do have to spend points on Rakuten. But, as I said I just used 55,831 points on this TV, so they can be used for a good value if you are patient. However, you do also get 1% back as actual cashback as well.
With INKJET panel printing for 2020 OLED tvs,
Small, dim, and short-lived (if we even see any next year).

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and Samsung moving to introduce QD-OLED there should be some interesting prices coming out next year.
Dim, expensive, and not before 2022 (at the soonest).

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The best deals will be in the 2-3 months after 2020 models begin shipping. LGD’s production rates will be 40% higher by then due to the added capacity from Guangzhou. Simple supply and demand economics mean WOLED prices are only going down year over year...

And the other advantage of buying during closeout season is that the new models are out, early reviews are in, so you can decide which you’d prefer, a larger WOLED with older technology or a smaller WOLED with all the latest and greatest improvements...

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There is always a chance but based on history the absolute best prices a the week leading up to BF and through that weekend. Otherwise you will see good discounts late Jan-Early Feb for Super Bowl sales. The only other significant drops will come at end of model year when they closeout previous year. Them discounts will depend on several factors including relevancy, excess stock and demand. I still see deals on 2018 C8 and E8 models.

Honestly the window just passed for absolute best deal(s). The closeouts may be at a better price point but by then you would most likely be looking at newer models.
You've been staying on top of WOLED pricing far more consistently than me, and of course there is also the gap between 'official' pricing and discounted unofficial online pricing, but what you've stated isn't quite correct, certainly for official pricing and my impression is also for discounted unofficial online pricing as well.

For sure, Black Friday season is when LG offers a significant official discount to drive major sales into the Holiday Season ($2700 with multiple discounts to $2600 and one short-lived drop to $2400 for the 65C8 versus generally discounted pricing of $2800 around that season).

The result is a huge increase in sales volume and commensurate drop in inventory levels and so LG typically increases pricing after the Black Friday shopping season is over after New Years (back to $3000 in the case of the 65C8).

This causes sales to slow and inventory levels to recover heading into Super Bowl Season when LG will typically get back close to 'base discount levels' ($2700 in the case of the 65C8) where pricing will stay depending on inventory levels until the new-year model is released (modulating between $2700 and $2800 in the case of the 65C8).

Once the new-year model is released, some retailers offer short-lived exceptional discounts to flush all of their inventory, if you are fast enough / lucky enough to catch them ($2000 for the 65C8). This was the best-ever pricing offered for the 65C8 through Amazon (23% below Black Friday Season Pricing and 17% below the very short-lived Black Friday Exceptional Dip).

After that, pricing returns to base levels as retailers burn through old model year inventory while new model year inventory is building and is priced at full MSRP (early adopter's tax) in the period prior to first discounts on the new model year pricing which is when everyone gets serious about flushing out any remaining old model year inventory and discounts accordingly (to $2500 in the case of the 65C8, +/-$100 or 4% from Black Friday levels).

So if you are very fast on your toes, you can generally catch the best possible pricing in the Spring when the new model year launches and if your not feeling lucky enough to catch that short-lived opportunity, you will generally be able to get a bit below Black Friday levels after late June when discounting on the new model year begins.

All of this is of course for semi-official pricing through Amazon, but I believe the general pattern is not that different through the unofficial online discounters (though the swings / % of their pricing moves is generally more muted).
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You will always see different dynamics in the street pricing since they aren't bound by MAP pricing. For instance this year I seen no deep discounts at all on high end displays from B&M stores. I think Costco and BestBuy had a couple hundred off for the 65" C9 making it $2499 or thereabouts. The Vizio PQX was heavily discounted at Costco to $999 but that not really high end.

I mostly follow the street pricing more closely and for the 3 years I've really been monitoring these prices, the best prices I've seen were BF. I say that with a caveat in that the prices do drop lower once the new models come out. But like you said...not always right away as they wait to see how sales continue and possibly to build stock for new model,


This chart from rtings.com seems fairly accurate, although there are always outliers. Of course this is just based on historic pricing, future price movement is always subject to change and largely tied to supply and demand





Even this Amazon 65C8 price tracker you can see the cheapest price was BF until around June/July
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You will always see different dynamics in the street pricing since they aren't bound by MAP pricing. For instance this year I seen no deep discounts at all on high end displays from B&M stores. I think Costco and BestBuy had a couple hundred off for the 65" C9 making it $2499 or thereabouts. The Vizio PQX was heavily discounted at Costco to $999 but that not really high end.

I mostly follow the street pricing more closely and for the 3 years I've really been monitoring these prices, the best prices I've seen were BF. I say that with a caveat in that the prices do drop lower once the new models come out. But like you said...not always right away as they wait to see how sales continue and possibly to build stock for new model,


This chart from rtings.com seems fairly accurate, although there are always outliers. Of course this is just based on historic pricing, future price movement is always subject to change and largely tied to supply and demand





Even this Amazon 65C8 price tracker you can see the cheapest price was BF until around June/July
Sounds like we’re pretty much in agreement that if you miss the Black Friday Season, you’re best bet is to wait till mid-year when the new models have launched, inventory has been built up, and first discounts get offered (with the possibility of reaching similar levels around the Super Bowl if inventory levels are high).

If you know what you want and are on a budget, pick it up in November.

If you have the luxury of timing your purchase and are interested to know what the new model year offers, Super Bowl sales after CES are a first good option to likely come close to Black Friday pricing on last year’s model if the new year isn’t offering anything you are excited about.

And in case the new model is enticing but you can’t afford the Early Adopter’s Tax, late June offers an opportunity to get back to Black Friday pricing on the old model while the new model gets its first discounts and reviews and first owner reports are generally out to make an informed price/performance decision.

Or of course if you have decided that you want the new model but don’t have the budget for it, you can wait another 5 months for Black Friday (and the cycle continues [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]).
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From what I've read, 2021-22 is more realistic for mass market, and the cost to consumers will decrease 15-20%. I went from a 50" plasma to a 65" plasma, and I would love to step up to the 77" C9. But the, almost double the cost compared to the 65", is why I'm going to wait on the larger screen size until the new technology hits the market and prices are cheaper.
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Google is still dragging their feet on the shipping. I think someone screwed up on the inventory. They threw out the possibility of cancelling my order now which really pisses me off since it will cost a lot more. They would not substitute it with a 77" or a higher model in stock. I might resort to green toe now.
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Picked up a new 65” LG E9 yesterday for $2000. Did have to pay tax though so it ended up being like $2216 with extra warranty. I thought that was pretty darn good.


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Sounds like we’re pretty much in agreement that if you miss the Black Friday Season, you’re best bet is to wait till mid-year when the new models have launched, inventory has been built up, and first discounts get offered (with the possibility of reaching similar levels around the Super Bowl if inventory levels are high).

If you know what you want and are on a budget, pick it up in November.

If you have the luxury of timing your purchase and are interested to know what the new model year offers, Super Bowl sales after CES are a first good option to likely come close to Black Friday pricing on last year’s model if the new year isn’t offering anything you are excited about.

And in case the new model is enticing but you can’t afford the Early Adopter’s Tax, late June offers an opportunity to get back to Black Friday pricing on the old model while the new model gets its first discounts and reviews and first owner reports are generally out to make an informed price/performance decision.

Or of course if you have decided that you want the new model but don’t have the budget for it, you can wait another 5 months for Black Friday (and the cycle continues [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]).
I believe last year at mainstream dealers the C8 was the same price as BF just before the Super Bowl. I know 2 years ago that is when I swapped out my buggy Vizio for my X900E I saw the same thing there, the Super Bolw prices were on par with BF prices.

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From what I've read, 2021-22 is more realistic for mass market, and the cost to consumers will decrease 15-20%. I went from a 50" plasma to a 65" plasma, and I would love to step up to the 77" C9. But the, almost double the cost compared to the 65", is why I'm going to wait on the larger screen size until the new technology hits the market and prices are cheaper.
I am not a fan of Samsung, they are less concerned with accuracy then pop and attracting the consumer in the show room. Even if they did a OLED I would not likely be interested unless they had some magic sauce that gave them a far better and accurate PQ than Sony or LG. Not to mention I have had horrible experience with Samsung customer service.

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Sounds like we’re pretty much in agreement that if you miss the Black Friday Season, you’re best bet is to wait till mid-year when the new models have launched, inventory has been built up, and first discounts get offered (with the possibility of reaching similar levels around the Super Bowl if inventory levels are high).

If you know what you want and are on a budget, pick it up in November.

If you have the luxury of timing your purchase and are interested to know what the new model year offers, Super Bowl sales after CES are a first good option to likely come close to Black Friday pricing on last year’s model if the new year isn’t offering anything you are excited about.

And in case the new model is enticing but you can’t afford the Early Adopter’s Tax, late June offers an opportunity to get back to Black Friday pricing on the old model while the new model gets its first discounts and reviews and first owner reports are generally out to make an informed price/performance decision.

Or of course if you have decided that you want the new model but don’t have the budget for it, you can wait another 5 months for Black Friday (and the cycle continues [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]).


Don’t we see a price drop during super bowl week?


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With INKJET panel printing for 2020 OLED tvs ,and Samsung moving to introduce QD-OLED there should be some interesting prices coming out next year. Something to soothe those who may have missed the BIG DEALS this go round.[IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
From what I've read, 2021-22 is more realistic for mass market, and the cost to consumers will decrease 15-20%. I went from a 50" plasma to a 65" plasma, and I would love to step up to the 77" C9. But the, almost double the cost compared to the 65", is why I'm going to wait on the larger screen size until the new technology hits the market and prices are cheaper.
It’s not any of the ‘new technologies’ that are going to drive down 75/77” WOLED prices 2 years from now, it’s the ramp-up of LGD’s new 10.5G WOLED manufacturing line in Paju, Korea.

A 10.5G sheet will cost less than 150% the cost of the 8.5G sheets LGD is manufacturing currently.

LGD will be able to manufacture 6 75” WOLED panels on a single 10.5G sheet compared to 6 55” WOLED panels on a single 8.5G sheet.

The cost of a WOLED TV includes many ‘fixed-cost’ elements such as processor, memory, etc... meaning that TV cost increases with size less than WOLED panel cost increases in size.

By 2022, we’re very likely to see 55” WOLEDs widely available for under $1000 (already got surprisingly close this Black Friday Season).

You do the math.
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Bought 65c9 from five star buy Ebay and was disappointed in that they told me it would be shipped locally and instead coming from Florida. Also said it would be fed ex ground and is coming fed ex freight. Lastly took days for it to actually ship. Very unimpressed. Florida is the worst for shipping as takes forever to get anywhere. My mistake for not checking place of origin
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I notice that their terms and conditions lists:
This Promotion applies only to new 2019 LG NanoCell or 2019 OLED TV’️s purchased at U.S. Authorized Retailers

So unauthorized sellers are disqualified from this promo?
If anyone else is also wondering I got the firstclasstv deal on eBay and just got confirmation that my Disney plus is good. I just added a pic of the eBay order, the email and I screenshot my credit card statement. Those three items seemed to be enough to verify. So they aren’t looking too closely at authorized or non authorized dealers for the promo.
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Just got my 65" C9 delivered from "Five-star-buy" (the ebay deal). Took about a week. Seems to be all there. Took forever to get it out of the box - had to lay the box flat on the floor and the FexEx guy and I used the butt end of a couple of golf clubs to push it out from the bottom side. That sucker is heavy as hell! Somehow I thought it would be lighter since the screen is about a quarter inch thick. I do not envy you guys with the 77" model.

Now comes the "fun" part. Got to get it fastened to the rotating table stand, then up on the fixed TV stand, then all connected up to other new components, etc. Be at it for the rest of the day, at least. But I'm happy! It's here!!
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Just got my 65" C9 delivered from "Five-star-buy" (the ebay deal).

Congrats on your new TV, glad the purchase went smoothly. I can't vouch for the 77C9 but the 77C8 was a royal pita to move...but well worth it in the end.
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groupedaudio legit?

I'm questioning how legit they are. No one answers the phone. After 20 rings you get a generic voicemail that doesn't even mention the company's name. Look them up on google maps and it's a run down building with no name on the front. Sure they're offering a LG OLEDC9PUA for $1625 but if you can't trust the source? After ordering I get an email the next day to call to confirm and no one answers. I just ordered from NewEgg for $1800 + tax. Still a good price.
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