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Liked the episode; so don't get me wrong.

But for me, the time for all the formalities is over - I nearly cheered when Bran piped up about "We don't have time for this..." I expected a lead character to succumb to the White Walkers, and a lot more death. But I'm thinking that will be what next Sunday will be all about.

Sansa's rip on Tyrion had me saying "that's cold, girl!" But it needed to be said. I could have went with half the double dragon date. Especially since right before that they revealed the dragons aren't eating as much. Regardless, great to see John Snow's comedic action.

Looking forward to Arya's final story. Loved what began with the opening scene, her visit to her blacksmith boyfriend, and the Hound reunion.

Like others said, that was the fastest hour I've witnessed in a while!
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Liked the episode; so don't get me wrong.

But for me, the time for all the formalities is over - I nearly cheered when Bran piped up about "We don't have time for this..." I expected a lead character to succumb to the White Walkers, and a lot more death. But I'm thinking that will be what next Sunday will be all about.

Sansa's rip on Tyrion had me saying "that's cold, girl!" But it needed to be said. I could have went with half the double dragon date. Especially since right before that they revealed the dragons aren't eating as much. Regardless, great to see John Snow's comedic action.

Looking forward to Arya's final story. Loved what began with the opening scene, her visit to her blacksmith boyfriend, and the Hound reunion.

Like others said, that was the fastest hour I've witnessed in a while!
One of the many interview articles posted in here recently, had the creators talking about a sequence that has no comparison in cinema. They cited a movie that had a 40 minute scene that came close. So one of these episodes coming up will be almost entitely action. Its coming dude.
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The picture quality contributes to be highly disappointing. Massive banding, crush, posterization......yuck. Very distracting from the immersion of the story.
I am a DirecTV subscriber and switched to the HBOGO stream via Xbox One. It's a massive improvement in visual quality. I watched upscaled to 4K on my LG OLED C6 and saw no banding or crushing.

In fact, in many dark scenes, I thought it superior to the Blu-Rays played on the same Xbox One.
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I'm still trying to picture the conversation between Jon and Dany. Hoo Boy.
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Favorite line for me was Sansa: "What do dragons eat?" Daenerys response: "anything they want..."
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All that seemed to be missing was Ghost and Nymeria .. "the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives."

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I am a DirecTV subscriber and switched to the HBOGO stream via Xbox One. It's a massive improvement in visual quality. I watched upscaled to 4K on my LG OLED C6 and saw no banding or crushing.

In fact, in many dark scenes, I thought it superior to the Blu-Rays played on the same Xbox One.
The problem with HBOGO is that you don't get surround sound. At least you didn't before. Has that changed?

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The issues described by some as it relates to PQ might be attributable to the ISP distribution being fairly well taxed to the limit ..

The commentary at the end of episodes on HBOgo by B&W are always a worthwhile watch as well ..
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Poor Sam.

Jaime - "Oh shhhhhhhh...."

Seems like we saw everyone except Brienne of Tarth. It's been so long I don't even remember where we left off with her.

Cool new opening. The last part is like a DOOM II The Crusher level.

Opened the thread to two and a half pages of new posts! It's like the old days.
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Opened the thread to two and a half pages of new posts! It's like the old days.
Minus the whining about suspected Book Spoilers ..
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Dragonglass is written on the paper .. maybe an interchangeable blade / speartip .. on-line scuttlebutt speculates a major role in something ..

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Minus the whining about suspected Book Spoilers ..
Yeah, it's gotta suck for some of the Nostradamus book readers to be on the same level as the pagan "watchers" now. Mingling with the commoners! Smoking jackets disappointedly hanging in their closets. Truly bleak days.
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As well .. symbols used as messages from the WW have been used since season 1 ..

Ned Umber / Lord of House Umber ..



Caves of Dragonstone ..


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Yeah, it's gotta suck for some of the Nostradamus book readers to be on the same level as the pagan "watchers" now. Mingling with the commoners! Smoking jackets disappointedly hanging in their closets. Truly bleak days.
I always held my tongue .. .. If memory serves, was it not Oink that always had the biggest beef .. ?? .. regardless, I still miss him ..

In actuality, it's quite liberating to having hung up the Smoking Jacket ..

I don't think there has been a shred of activity on the "other" Thread ..
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Dragonglass is written on the paper .. maybe an interchangeable blade / speartip .. on-line scuttlebutt speculates a major role in something ..
She's thinking ahead to when the dragonglass inevitably shatters or breaks off. This has bugged me for a while...the weapons' durability is going to be a problem.
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The problem with HBOGO is that you don't get surround sound. At least you didn't before. Has that changed?
Via Xbox One, it came across as Dolby Digital+ and I thought there was good surround effects. It did not sound like upmixed Stereo, but my middle-aged ears may be failing me.
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She's thinking ahead to when the dragonglass inevitably shatters or breaks off. This has bugged me for a while...the weapons' durability is going to be a problem.
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Via Xbox One, it came across as Dolby Digital+ and I thought there was good surround effects. It did not sound like upmixed Stereo, but my middle-aged ears may be failing me.
That brings up another tech question for the class. Can anyone tell me what the difference is between plain ol' Dolby Digital, which I get on all my cable/satellite feeds, and DD+ which I get on many BD's and most of the streaming services? Is it just "better" DD for some reason? Is it a whole separate audio track or CODEC? Is it two more channels, i.e. 7.1 instead of 5.1?

What's the deal with DD+ anyway?
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That brings up another tech question for the class. Can anyone tell me what the difference is between plain ol' Dolby Digital, which I get on all my cable/satellite feeds, and DD+ which I get on many BD's and most of the streaming services? Is it just "better" DD for some reason? Is it a whole separate audio track or CODEC? Is it two more channels, i.e. 7.1 instead of 5.1?

What's the deal with DD+ anyway?
From digitaltrends.com:

"Dolby offers two different 7.1 surround versions. Dolby Digital Plus is the “lossy” version, which still involves data compression and takes up less space on a Blu-ray disc. Dolby TrueHD, on the other hand, is lossless. Since no compression is involved, Dolby TrueHD is intended to be identical to the studio master."

I was watching past seasons via HBOGO (Xfinity) on my Roku and was also getting DD+, with my receiver showing 7.1 inputs. That was until Comcast decided to screw a lot of folks over with their authorization codes. Was working fine until I got to the S8 premiere time, and then HBOGO was "not authorized" and I kept getting errors everytime I tried to re-authorize. Finally ended up watching the TiVo recording from Xfinity cable, but definitely want to get this fixed and rewatch the premiere via GO - there's still a huge difference in video and audio quality.
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I thought it was some sort of harpoon that could shoot.

Either way, they've set the table for a really exciting season. I really wanted to click "Next Episode" last night . . .
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I have never been so glued to the screen for a TV show ever. That hour went by so fast it was insane. Props to the actor playing Euron. Wow, he does that so well, one of the most despicable characters in a while. Played to perfection.
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That brings up another tech question for the class. Can anyone tell me what the difference is between plain ol' Dolby Digital, which I get on all my cable/satellite feeds, and DD+ which I get on many BD's and most of the streaming services? Is it just "better" DD for some reason? Is it a whole separate audio track or CODEC? Is it two more channels, i.e. 7.1 instead of 5.1?

What's the deal with DD+ anyway?
It is a better DD, or more accurately, DD extended (not the DD-E, but DD+). Quoting from an old Home Theater Forum post:

"Dolby Digital Plus" is Extended AC-3 (E-AC3). It incorporates improved coding models which preserve more audio information when used at low bitrates (such as 192 kbps). Additionally, it allows for additional data from channel arrangements beyond 5.1. Specifically, in the case of 7.1 audio, it supplies the 4 rear channels as a separate packet : there is a 5.1 core, and then an extension which replaces the 2 rear channels of 5.1 with 4 new rear channels.

So DD+ is DD expanded with extensions (still has the core DD) to make things like 7.1 possible as well as other improvements in performance, etc.

The connection to the apps available for streaming is that most (if not all) apps have moved from DD to DD+. I noticed this when all of my used apps (Netflix, VUDU, HBO Go, Directv Now) on my Roku went from 5.1 to stereo.

I have an old Pioneer Elite VSX-33 which performs great, but is only capable of DD. No DD+. I'll have to update to a (at least) DD+ capable AVR, since sound is as important as the PQ to me.
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I always held my tongue .. .. If memory serves, was it not Oink that always had the biggest beef .. ?? .. regardless, I still miss him ..

In actuality, it's quite liberating to having hung up the Smoking Jacket ..

I don't think there has been a shred of activity on the "other" Thread ..
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I am a DirecTV subscriber and switched to the HBOGO stream via Xbox One. It's a massive improvement in visual quality. I watched upscaled to 4K on my LG OLED C6 and saw no banding or crushing.

In fact, in many dark scenes, I thought it superior to the Blu-Rays played on the same Xbox One.
I watch off of DirecTV too and agree the picture isn't anything to write home about. I might have to look into that HBOGO app. Is it available thru the ATV?

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I watch off of DirecTV too and agree the picture isn't anything to write home about. I might have to look into that HBOGO app. Is it available thru the ATV?
I watched on Directv Now and got excellent quality on PQ, will compare with HBO Go (both are on Roku), but expect the same good quality.

Memory fades, since I've been on DirectNow for about a year, but the PQ is much improved from Comcast.
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I watched on Directv Now and got excellent quality on PQ, will compare with HBO Go (both are on Roku), but expect the same good quality.

Memory fades, since I've been on DirectNow for about a year, but the PQ is much improved from Comcast.
You have my medulla oblongata really scrambled. And on a Monday too. Might take 5 days to unscramble. But what's the difference between DirectNow and DirecTV?

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The problem with HBOGO is that you don't get surround sound. At least you didn't before. Has that changed?

Say what? We've always used HBO Go for GoT and surround sound has always been there, at least as far as I can remember. HBO Now didn't offer 5.1 but HBO Go did. The sound track last night was exceptional via HBO Go on the ATV4k.

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I watch off of DirecTV too and agree the picture isn't anything to write home about. I might have to look into that HBOGO app. Is it available thru the ATV?

Yes. PQ and AQ was fantastic on my C8 via the ATV4k. Even the very dark scene with Tormund was watchable, with the use of a bias light, with no crushing or blocking.

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I always held my tongue .. .. If memory serves, was it not Oink that always had the biggest beef .. ?? .. regardless, I still miss him ..

In actuality, it's quite liberating to having hung up the Smoking Jacket ..

I don't think there has been a shred of activity on the "other" Thread ..
In all fairness, when I started this thread back in the beginning, I did it because the other thread was so full of the book did this and the book did that. And worse, in the book this is coming. It was so full of spoilers it made the weekly showings less than desirable to those who didn't read the books. At this point though we are in no man's land and it really doesn't matter any more. Now all we have is speculation, much of it educated...

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