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So I skipped the recap. Why is Fitz stuck in space? I thought they all got reunited last season.
The Fitz who made it back into time last season died. So when they went back to their own time, Fitz was still supposedly cryo'd in space so they could find him and unfreeze him. For some unknown reason, his deep freeze was interrupted in this time line.

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So I skipped the recap. Why is Fitz stuck in space? I thought they all got reunited last season.
If you’re asking, you must have missed the whole of last season too!
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So I skipped the recap. Why is Fitz stuck in space? I thought they all got reunited last season.
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Here we go with the time travel paradoxes again. If cryo-Fitz is rescued by the gang then he never made it to the future to rescue the gang so they never made it back to the past for Fitz to die, etc, etc.
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Here we go with the time travel paradoxes again. If cryo-Fitz is rescued by the gang then he never made it to the future to rescue the gang so they never made it back to the past for Fitz to die, etc, etc.

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Here we go with the time travel paradoxes again. If cryo-Fitz is rescued by the gang then he never made it to the future to rescue the gang so they never made it back to the past for Fitz to die, etc, etc.
This show goes with the point of view that the characters created a separate timeline when they returned to the past. Both timelines exist in alternate dimensions.
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At least that part's consistent with the MCU.

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Perhaps this will bring "The Fault"--that energy rift in space-time that can allow MCU superheroes to travel between parallel universes--into upcoming AoS plots. I suspect that we're going to be getting multiple different versions of Coulson in this season's episodes, possibly via such a "McGuffin."

Something like this could possibly turn out to be this year's "gravitonium."

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This show goes with the point of view that the characters created a separate timeline when they returned to the past. Both timelines exist in alternate dimensions.

Exactly... basically last season by them going back in time and successfully preventing the destruction of the Earth they had seen in the future... they found themselves living in an alternate timeline. Now, for folks asking "what about Thanos and the Infinity movies"... The producers of the show can EASILY make the case that this alternative timeline of Agents of SHIELD exists in a reality where the Thanos snap never happens... because they are already in a different timeline from the heroes we see in Endgame... so, essentially, they are no longer constrained to connect to the movie universe anymore, but they could still have character crossovers if they want.
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The producers of the show can EASILY make the case that this alternative timeline of Agents of SHIELD exists in a reality where the Thanos snap never happens... because they are already in a different timeline from the heroes we see in Endgame... so, essentially, they are no longer constrained to connect to the movie universe anymore, but they could still have character crossovers if they want.
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I'm done, I couldn't even finish the episode last night. The whole badass Coulson and gang is over the top and unrealistic. I used to enjoy the show but it's all over the place this season. I'll just read your posts from now on.
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I'm done, I couldn't even finish the episode last night. The whole badass Coulson and gang is over the top and unrealistic. I used to enjoy the show but it's all over the place this season. I'll just read your posts from now on.

There are certainly things that are unrealistic about the show... but what about this particular story qualifies for that? Seems to be people from an alternate Earth... those stories have been done lots of times over the years on TV. We're only two episodes into the season, and even if you don't like it, "all over the place" seems kind of harsh without specific points. They are storytelling on two fronts, since they have the gang in space trying to find Fitz and the people on Earth dealing with alt-Coulson... and I don't know exactly where they are going with all this, but it doesn't seem that off the rails to me.
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I'm enjoying the reshuffling of the team with Mac in charge and the expansion of the story off planet. Though I'm leery of the reasoning behind "Coulson's" return, I'm open to it being believable enough within the context of this world that I can just go with it.

The only thing I've really questioned thus far is Enoch. I thought he had some special abilities, at least shape-shifting, that would've enabled him to blend in better on the ship Fitz and he stowed away on. Isn't he some kind of bizarre looking alien, and his "Enoch" human face is something he shape-shifts into at will (and can just as easily shape-shift into other appearances)?
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I like this Coulson better than the old one. Seems "better acted" somehow.
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IMHO, there's an abundance of cool stuff happening in this season's episodes, surprisingly way more than many fans were expecting. Just be sure that you "check your brain at the door" before viewing! There's a ton of special effects this season, with some great comic-book-worthy stuff like the tractor-trailer with a cloaking device, that "portal paint" that makes quick escapes a cinch, and a revitalized/resurgent S.H.I.E.L.D. I think a lot of fans thought season 6 would be merely a tedious search for Coulson, with show after show of nothing much more than May and Quake beating the living hell out of villains (to cater to the huge overseas markets--like China--which seem to just love pretty girls dressed in black, kicking the crap out of baddies in fight sequences).

Totally badass alternate-Coulson is a hoot, and gives Clark Gregg a chance to have lots of fun with a new wrinkle on Phil (or NOT-Phil...or whoever he really is). Looks like the alien "Enoch" (actor Joel Stoffer, doing his best "Spock-like" takes) is technically another character on this show who's both dead and alive in different timelines, just like Coulson.

I loved the scene where Enoch and Fitz pull the "Superman II" trick on the bad guys, switching the airlock controls to eject them out into space.

And I really wanna get me a can of that portal paint. Sure would come in handy around the house.
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If not mentioned earlier, this show has been renewed.
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If not mentioned earlier, this show has been renewed.
Pretty soon, this show will have more episodes than it has viewers still watching on ABC!
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Didn't they renew it for two seasons last year?
Or did they just renew it for another season after 2020?
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Or did they just renew it for another season after 2020?
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I don't know. I just saw it on a list of renewed shows for ABC for this next year.

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WTF!!!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Did any other ABC affiliate boot the episode to 1:30 AM? According to my guide, ABC Miami is doing it again next week.


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WTF!!!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Did any other ABC affiliate boot the episode to 1:30 AM? According to my guide, ABC Miami is doing it again next week.
The first 3 episodes of the season have been broadcast at their regular times here in the Detroit market. I haven't watched any of them yet, but they were recorded correctly at the scheduled time.
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ABC affiliates in northwest PA and western and central NY all ran it at the regular 8 p.m. time. What exactly is Miami's ABC affiliate showing instead?

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Last night, they showed a tribute to Dwayne Wade. I am not sure what they are showing next week.

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I got a big kick out of last night's episode. Didn't feel the itch to speed watch, as I often do with this show.
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I got a big kick out of last night's episode. Didn't feel the itch to speed watch, as I often do with this show.
I'm starting to get a real "Guardians of the Galaxy" vibe from this show, and the "trippin' balls" scene was HILARIOUS. Anyone else notice that "Sarge"/Coulson was only in the episode for about one minute?

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Man! Local ABC station preempted it for some in-town event.
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I still remember the first time I saw this episode, one of my five favorites. If you like the original show you must watch this one about time travel and the paradox it presents! Warning the article synopsis contains a major spoiler telling the ending of the story.
Same here. It was one of top Outer Limits episodes ever done (along with The Hundred Days of the Dragon). It featured great performances by Martin Landau and Shirley Knight and it had a brilliant musical score. It did present quite a cautionary tale about the perils of time travel.
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Even with the given that network TV superhero shows aren't exactly known for their realism and believability, I thought it was pretty ridiculous Daisy and Gemma (especially Gemma) would eat an unknown alien substance from the hands of people who had just been pointing guns at them. For all they knew it was some kind of varmint poison or slug food not fit for human consumption, even though their idiot pilot thought it was edible after one quick bite. It seemed like just a cheap way to temporarily nerf Daisy's powers and add a moment of levity.
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