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post #31 of 396 Old 11-21-2015, 08:39 AM
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Generally speaking, because of the complete-dump-at-once nature of these types of shows, it's better to put any plot spoilers in tags, for the first few weeks at least. Right off the bat, I'm looking to this thread to see what people's general impressions are of the series. Do you like it? Love it? Do you hate it? What do you find impressive, lacking, etc...?

I'll avoid anything in spoiler tags but if people start posting plot points openly, then I won't be able to come here and get those impressions. Just my 2¢.
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post #32 of 396 Old 11-21-2015, 12:23 PM
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So how does this work, discussion wise ...
I am thru episode 7 , do we simply discuss, or does everything have to be in spoiler tags? ..
For these all available at once streaming shows the unwritten protocol has usually been to mention what episode you're up to and then to put episode/story/plot specific comments within spoiler tags.

But it is just a socially observed protocol, not a hard fast forum rule. I usually approach these threads with caution until I determine that there's nothing in the open that will spoil what I haven't seen yet and most of the time it's been a fairly safe method.

(I see arch has already responded, I hadn't noticed the page rolled over.)
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So how does this work
It doesn't. The threads for non-weekly shows are always close to dead, as everybody's on a different episode and nobody wants to risk spoilers or talk about events that nobody else has seen yet. Episode discussion, watercooler or otherwise, is a casualty of the binge TV model.
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I'm halfway through. Some things are confusing, but it's impossible to ask because of the spoiler thing.

It's interesting enough to keep me watching, albeit more slowly now.

I'm not a fan of the lighting, which is mostly dark. Maybe it's a "noir" thing, or something else, but I don't like it.
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I've idly thought about what mechanism would work to bring some of the debates and discussion into a single thread format for these full season at a time shows, along with folks like me coming in late (I don't have SyFy, so I primarily watch their shows on Netflix after everyone else has seen everything, Defiance and Haven were the exceptions that I paid Amazon for). For dedicated TV show forums I think they have one thread per episode, but that's not what we do here.

Suppose a forum desired to maintain a single thread per show, but account for varying progress of readers. If the forum instantiated a setting per post for the last episode the author had seen, then the viewer could set his/her last-seen episode and the forum could hide all posts marked with episodes beyond it. I would think the default for that setting would be 9999 or something so if an author failed to mark it, it would be hidden. I think the "0" setting would be for general posts about actresses, etc. The drawback is that the result would probably be a disjointed mess at best in the normal chronological order.

An alternate is to use similar tags and maintain a single "thread" container, but display in a sub-thread/hierarchical manner per episode. Viewers would see sub-threads pop out and continue separate conversations for each episode, but could collapse or hide the ones they haven't seen.

Of course, the default COA is "do nothing".

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Looks like a great premise. Just need to make the time to add it to an already packed tv queue. I don't recall so many good shows being on. #TooManyShowsNotEnoughTime
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Here's another suggestion: When people post in threads like this one, continue to put plot points in spoilers but mention what episode you're up to. Knowing which episodes you've seen and are commenting on will let other members who have gotten at least that far to read and comment on your post without fear of being spoiled themselves.

I'll cross-post this to the other active threads of complete-dump shows.
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I am up through episode 7 and I completely love it so far. I read the book many many years ago and parts of it stayed with me long after I finished. I am very curious how they will do the ending but will say no more for now.

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This is fascinating. I first read the novel in the late Sixties; it's worth noting that when it was written, it was *present-day* alternate history. So doing a 2015 TV adaptation created multiple challenges: not just building an alt-world 15 years after the Axis victory, but also making a convincing-looking past. I think they've done a spectacular job on what can't be a huge budget, but the shadowy lighting probably serves not only to enhance the mood and tone but also to hide some of the seams.

It's also interesting to note that most of the "resistance" aspect of the adaptation is added; the novel was essentially about the Nazi and Imperial characters in a world where the conquest of North America was pretty much a done deal. So I'm very much looking forward to seeing how these new threads weave into the original plotline.

In the book, of course, "The Grasshopper Lies Heavy" was itself a book; a story-within-the-story. Changing it to a film is appropriate. Consider that an alternate-history film in which the Allies win WWII in the forties would look a lot like our world whether it actually is or not.

I'm only three episodes in, but I'm extremely impressed. Did it really have to drop the same day as Jessica Jones? Sheesh!
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Here's another suggestion: When people post in threads like this one, continue to put plot points in spoilers but mention what episode you're up to. Knowing which episodes you've seen and are commenting on will let other members who have gotten at least that far to read and comment on your post without fear of being spoiled themselves.

I'll cross-post this to the other active threads of complete-dump shows.
Hmm.. sounds like there's an echo in here...
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Hmm.. sounds like there's an echo in here...
Uh, great minds think alike?
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You know, somewhere is some Alt Universe, people do not like binge watching and are discussing this great show episode by episode.
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You know, somewhere is some Alt Universe, people do not like binge watching and are discussing this great show episode by episode.
You can do that here. I just watched Episode 3, and

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I finished the 10 episodes, and I will post my thoughts in the spoiler tag below ..
** Since many people are discussing how to post/discuss "binge" shows, one idea would be to simply name a thread something like " Show Name - Binge completed (w/Spoilers) " .. This of course would only be discussions assuming the full season run has been watched ...

Now for My Show thoughts:
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Are people afraid to post a dissenting opinion??? I am probably in the minority.

The concept is great I admit but the execution is slow and plodding here. You need to give me something to make it past episode 3. If this picks up past episode 5 or 6 well congrats. Too many other things to watch - like paint dry. The dialogue is thin. The characters are a snoozefest.

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I still haven't revisited the series since the premier episode. I did see on the "news" tonight that they did an ad campaign in NY by turning a sub car into a big advert, emblazoned with the eagle/us flag and rising sun/us flag things emblazoned inside and out (even covering seats). Apparently Amazon has yanked the ads. NY is not the place to bandy Nazi symbolism in....shoulda done that just about anywhere else than NY, but generally crazy stupid IMO.
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I watched the first 2 episodes and will continue with the rest. I really like it. I never read the book, but love the concept and execution of it in the series.
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I watched the first 2 episodes and will continue with the rest. I really like it. I never read the book, but love the concept and execution of it in the series.
Was a very good book, but then I think almost everything Dick wrote was good. Even tho Dick's works have become the basis of quite a few films now, I still want to see better translations than most I can think of....and from the pilot not sure this is gonna do it for me but I'll give a few more episodes a shot soon.
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Amazon pulls NYC subway ads featuring Nazi imagery:
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...es-complaints/

"we're still here!" "no days off" "yada, yada yada..."
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I finished it, and am almost speechless.

My suggestion is, if you are part way through, and not pleased, just jump to the final episode. You will finally see the High Castle. And, in my opinion, save yourself many hours.

If this is the best of Amazon, they are still behind Netflix/HBO/Showtime/AMC.
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OK, I watched it and enjoyed it. If the movie would have explained what The Grasshopper Lies Heavy referred to, I would have enjoyed it a whole lot more and the ending would have made more sense.
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Finished this and won't be bothering if they make any more. Good thing it was free.
More style than substance, and no characters are really that interesting or likable.
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Ok sounds like I'm not missing out.

Have a lot of Orphan Black to plow through on Prime.

Wish they'd hurry up with new season of Catastrophe.
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Are people afraid to post a dissenting opinion??? I am probably in the minority.

The concept is great I admit but the execution is slow and plodding here. You need to give me something to make it past episode 3. If this picks up past episode 5 or 6 well congrats. Too many other things to watch - like paint dry. The dialogue is thin. The characters are a snoozefest.
I had a hard time, but I pushed on through, not a football fan and no NBA today, so I settled in for the whole thing. It was awfully slow and plodding, it finally got interesting to me in the latter stages, but it was a struggle. I liked the first couple of eps, and I liked the last 2 or 3, the middle was too slow and dry.

It might have been more interesting if I hadn't seen the first two eps and started the binge from the start.
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Wish they'd hurry up with new season of Catastrophe.
I'm already watching it. It started in the UK a month ago.
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It might have been more interesting if I hadn't seen the first two eps and started the binge from the start.
I had watched the first two episode but forgot details by the time the rest were released. I went back and watched all of them and it helps a bit. Still, if you want much more understanding, Google The Grasshopper Lies Heavy.
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Thanks golfster. Reading about Grasshopper helps understand this show. But, it is still mostly boring.
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OK, I watched it and enjoyed it. If the movie would have explained what The Grasshopper Lies Heavy referred to, I would have enjoyed it a whole lot more and the ending would have made more sense.
They did explain it, it's a reference to the Bible, Ecclesiastes 12:5 (which Juliana mistakenly thought referred to the time she was supposed to meet her contact in Canon City).

That said, I think the show was well done but misfired by not being weird enough. The PKD novel haunted me for years after I finished it.
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Watched it yesterday. Feels a lot like a PBS drama with some profanity and nudity added. Moved along very slowly. Some characters are great to watch while others are intolerable.

Don't really know what the fuss is about.
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Loved the whole thing - it had a very Millennium feel to it throughout that I really missed.

What was amazing about the writing was that

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Also looked completely spectacular in UHD 4K/HDR.
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