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"Bottom" for me implies it was bad. But no, it wasn't my favorite. I've rated all the main novels either 4/5 or 5/5 stars on Goodreads. So CB was a 4. But I was rating them against each other: "this is the best book ever" (5) versus "this was really friggin' good, but not necessarily the best book ever" (4)
ranking a book in a series doesn't necessarily mean a book at the bottom is bad...it just means that compared to the other books in the series it is not as good...so it only ranks low compared to the high standard it has already set for itself...same with the Ice and Fire series where Feast for Crows may not be as highly regarded as the other books but that's only when compared to itself...it's still probably better then a lot of other books
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in an interview with one of the Expanse showrunners they stated that shooting in 2.39:1 would have been impossible on SyFy…

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Perhaps that was the case when the show started, but the network seems to have had a change of attitude more recently. Nightflyers was also wider than 16:9, albeit only 1.85:1.
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Deadly Class on Syfy is entirely 2.35:1.
Aspect ratio can't save a bad show.

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It looks like they are modifying who is supposed to be on the ground for this book. Not necessarily a bad thing. I don't see Bobbie in any previews. She isn't in the book but appeared to be part of the crew in the previous season's finale.

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I don't see Bobbie in any previews. She isn't in the book but appeared to be part of the crew in the previous season's finale.
Bobbi is in the teaser at the :25 second mark...
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Bobbi is in the teaser at the :25 second mark...
You sir have keener eyes than I do.

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You sir have keener eyes than I do.
actually it's more like the :26 second mark as you don't get to see her face until then
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It looks like they are modifying who is supposed to be on the ground for this book. Not necessarily a bad thing. I don't see Bobbie in any previews. She isn't in the book but appeared to be part of the crew in the previous season's finale.
As I speculated a few weeks ago, story elements from elsewhere will need to be inserted in order to use characters who aren't in Cibola Burn. Apparently the short story "Gods of Risk" is being used as the source for Bobbie's arc. No idea how Avasarala or Drummer will be worked in, or how the various threads will ultimately connect, but I'm sure it will be brilliantly done.
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December?! Ugh.
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December?! Ugh.
Why ugh? I'd rather have them take the time to make it good/better.
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Why ugh? I'd rather have them take the time to make it good/better.
I'm merely expressing disappointment that we have to wait so long. Past seasons have aired early in each calendar year, and now we have to wait 18 months between seasons. Sucks as a fan, that's all. Of course I don't want them to rush it.
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I'm merely expressing disappointment that we have to wait so long. Past seasons have aired early in each calendar year, and now we have to wait 18 months between seasons. Sucks as a fan, that's all. Of course I don't want them to rush it.
Well, there was a lot that happened with the show between last season and this one. Namely, being cancelled, then picked up by another network. A lot of stuff changed with the production. Takes time to work all that stuff out.

Bottom line, we almost lost the show altogether. But thanks to Bezos, we didn't (rumor has it, it's his favorite show). I'm just happy we're getting another season, and hopefully several more after that.
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the visuals in the trailer look much improved over the SyFy version so it looks like they took the extra time getting everything more polished...the world looks so much more detailed, not just the planets and special effects but the characters (skin tones, color etc)...things look way more cinematic...hopefully there will be HDR support
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I couldn't find definite word on whether the whole season will drop at once. The announcements feel like a drop date rather than a start date, but do we really know for sure?
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Well, there was a lot that happened with the show between last season and this one. Namely, being cancelled, then picked up by another network. A lot of stuff changed with the production. Takes time to work all that stuff out.

Bottom line, we almost lost the show altogether. But thanks to Bezos, we didn't (rumor has it, it's his favorite show). I'm just happy we're getting another season, and hopefully several more after that.
Ditto. That part is tedious. Remember, people left so they had to be brought back and replaced after Syfy axed it. If Syfy didn't axe it, we would had been watching its new season now!
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I couldn't find definite word on whether the whole season will drop at once. The announcements feel like a drop date rather than a start date, but do we really know for sure?
I'm fairly confident it'll drop all at once...reason being that they would not release the 1st episode on Dec 13th if they were planning a weekly schedule...it would conflict with the holidays when most shows go on hiatus
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I'm fairly confident it'll drop all at once...reason being that they would not release the 1st episode on Dec 13th if they were planning a weekly schedule...it would conflict with the holidays when most shows go on hiatus
Hasn't all Amazon's TV series always been to release all episodes for the season like its Man in the High Castle (another decent series IMO).
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Hasn't all Amazon's TV series always been to release all episodes for the season like its Man in the High Castle (another decent series IMO).
there are a few exceptions...that Matthew Weiner show, 'The Romanoffs' and 'The Grand Tour' car show are shown in weekly installments
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there are a few exceptions...that Matthew Weiner show, 'The Romanoffs' and 'The Grand Tour' car show are shown in weekly installments

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but when ranking the Expanse books you would also rank Cibola Burn towards the bottom?
I think if people ranked it near the bottom it’s because at first it seems it does not continue the overall arc of the series and is more of a speed bump. In my mind, it’s in the middle at a minimum. When reading the book I kept imagining the David Thewlis character in Fargo (rotten teeth and all) as
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I think if people ranked it near the bottom it’s because at first it seems it does not continue the overall arc of the series and is more of a speed bump. In my mind, it’s in the middle at a minimum. When reading the book I kept imagining the David Thewlis character in Fargo (rotten teeth and all) as
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About 80% of Cibola Burn is a "corrupt small town sheriff and railroad baron" western. 15% is Expanse and 5% is AI internal dialogue.

Granted, the Expanse part of CB is pretty good Expanse material and I'd argue is fairly important for the last leg of the arc trilogy.

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About 80% of Cibola Burn is a "corrupt small town sheriff and railroad baron" western. 15% is Expanse and 5% is AI internal dialogue.

Granted, the Expanse part of CB is pretty good Expanse material and I'd argue is fairly important for the last leg of the arc trilogy.
The presence of Holden, Naomi, Alex, and/or Amos in just about every chapter (after the intro/setup stuff) made it 100% Expanse IMO.
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I'm also a bit bummed that we have to wait till December but I'm sure it'll be worth the wait both in terms of story and visuals...I heard they filmed all the Ilus scenes using widescreen 2.39:1 aspect ratio which they would never have been allowed to do on SyFy
Boo!! I wish it was in 16:9

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Boo!! I wish it was in 16:9
Yeah, I don't know how I feel about this. 'The Expanse' has always been a 16x9 HD format TV show. Now they're going to change that? Or just for the planetside scenes on Ilus, going back to 16x9 on the Roci and elsewhere?

If the whole shebang is changing to widescreen format, I guess I could watch it in my theater, stretch it anamorphically (vertically), then use my A-lens to stretch it back out horizontally to fill my 'scope screen. I could probably get away with that since the streaming quality from Amazon will be so much better than the Syfy cablenet version. I always felt watching the Syfy broadcast looked better on my 55" HDTV than my 120" inch projector screen.
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Yeah, I don't know how I feel about this. 'The Expanse' has always been a 16x9 HD format TV show. Now they're going to change that? Or just for the planetside scenes on Ilus, going back to 16x9 on the Roci and elsewhere?
only the Ilus parts will be 2.39:1...if you look at the preview video it shows the aspect ratio switch as soon as they arrive on Ilus...the 1:53 mark of the video is when it changes from 16:9 full screen to widescreen...I love widescreen as it gives things a more cinematic look...I'm always for directors intent so whatever the showrunner thinks looks best is fine with me

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I would support a complete switch to 2.35:1, but variable aspect ratio is annoying.

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I just don't think switching between 16:9 and "scope"-ish ratios actually has the effect that these directors who do it seem to intend.

If you're viewing on a matted fixed-height screen that opens up fo the 'scope sequences, so the wider content is actually bigger and more panoramic, then sure. Or even if you matte the 16:9 parts within the frame so that they're smaller.

Either way, the transition to 'scope has to be awe-inspiring, to evoke grandeur and vastness. And on any standard 16:9 home display, it will do the opposite because it's just smaller.

Movies that are made in 2.35 but insert sequences of IMAX footage (such as the last Mission Impossible movie) illustrate this point: it's the screen-filling 16:9 sequences that create the awesome panoramas on the home display, and the way it's used in the movie the filmmakers clearly understand this.

I don't think it's necessarily a big deal, and I'm sure it will be fine, but this is still made-for-TV where cinematic thinking may not accomplish the desired effect.
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