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With contest days in the 40s, looks like several spider bites caused survivalist Callie to threaten a tap out. A plant poultice didn't cure infections and she noticed swollen lymph glands. Apparently, unlike earlier seasons in Canada, there are no regular visits from a doctor. Attitudes seem dismal among some of the remaining 7 survivalists, although one has optimistically built a drying rack for fish. Finally, Dan also taps out, leaving only 6 in the chilly region. While the 'rescue' boat is shown in the closing scenes, it's a little fuzzy who has actually tapped out.-- John

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Callie didn't tap out but instead used her herb know-how to apply a stronger poultice and brew special tea. Seemed to have helped her spider bites and gland swellings. A few others have tapped out so it's down to 5 after 50-plus days. One of the women built a rock trap that squashed a potentially hantavirus-carrying mouse that she threw away. One of the men built a pyramid-shaped trap from bamboo to catch a small bird. One dude positioned his motion-detection video camera near a boar path and captured closeups of a boar nosing about for food--apparently the alarming shot simulating an attack used as a show teaser. Survivalists are getting skinny.

Meanwhile, Discovery's "The Wheel" ran its second survivalist episode. Six survivalists are being cycled through deadly, greatly different S.American sites during 60 days, depending on the moon's phases. Somewhat different than Alone. One West-coast woman, a model, deliberately oinked out to add 30 pounds to her slim figure, knowing she'd need it. -- John

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At 70+ days Callie finally did tap out, leaving four. She just had enough. The dude with the hunting bow is so weakened by hunger he couldn't string his bow to hunt boar. One woman put together two bolos, going after ducks loudly swimming nearby. But they scooted when she approached. Another built a small box from plants to trap birds; one triggered it but escaped because the trap was too flimsy. Heavy snow is falling, the beauty appreciated by most there, but the symptoms of near-starvation are sad. -- John
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yeah, callie handled the long 'alone' time like a professional .
Kind of nice to see 2 women still in the running to win...
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An episode that showed periodic medical visits after all. That's what knocked Dave out, despite his protests he had food (dried fish). But he stored it away and apparently starved himself badly enough the medical folks insisted on removing him for hospitalization. His blood pressure was dangerously low. So. after mid-70s days, two women and one man remain. One of the women, just to keep herself occupied, built a small drum with a piece of hide she'd found. The remaining man hasn't caught fish for a week in the cold winter weather. -- John

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Series 3 final episode showed Fowler, a Maine boat builder, winning after ~87 days--with a jaw-dropping 73-pound weight loss. Of the two women left, Callie North's body mass index fell one point below a critical 17, forcing hospital treatment and five months for full recovery. Alaskan Carleigh Fairchild had a potentially serious tooth problem in addition to the serious food problem the finalists faced. Winner Fowler heard the approaching boat and thought he might be expelled--until his wife snuck up behind him with the good news. He seems to have extended his self-sufficient home living style to Patagonia. An extra hour Alone show brought the contestants together in a forest setting and showed extra scenes they'd captured. -- John
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Season Four
Seven pairs of family-member survivalists were reviewed in last night's History-channel show. Brothers, fathers/sons, and one married man/woman pair...a few ex-special-forces men. The series has evolved a bit: Still a $500k prize for the finalists, but one of each pair must first hike ~10 miles though northern Vancouver Island predator-dense woods to their partner for sharing 5 of their 10 survival tools. Most seemed highly experienced with outdoor living and all trained two weeks for the location. Since some bigger dudes require more food it's uncertain they won't be reduced to a sad condition, like many earlier-season folks, of highly weakened near-starvation. An early preview shows the only woman encountering a wolf. -- John
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looks like an interesting season !


I'm ready ......... this series has been getting better and better.....
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i'm ready too. have watched every season. this season's couples edition will be interesting for sure.
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That was fast! After only two hours the blacksmith brothers from Illinois were flown out. One brother, hiking through dense, wet woods to his brother, slipped and sprained an ankle. Surprised if others aren't similarly injured if their trainers didn't show how to use a support walking pole while maneuvering heavy backpacks over wet logs and rocks. Meanwhile, the wife member of another team built a nice shelter, picked orange-colored mushrooms and gathered pine pitch to help start fires. Spookiest scene showed 'glowing' animal eyes near a tent as another team member was trying to sleep. An infrared motion-sensing camera with infrared beam apparently was triggered when a bear approached. A loud air-horn scared the animal off. The wife, as her husband hiked miles toward her, just shouted at an approaching wolf to warn it off. Previews suggested more injuries may trim other teams from competition. -- John
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wow, Brook kicked butt on day one !! That's how you should do it
in the beginning ... knock it out while you have the energy....
She did good .........
It would Suck to prepare for this show and then go out on a day one injury..
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A second team checked out leaving five survivalist pairs left. The son just said no thanks to the environment, so the chopper interrupted the father's hike. There's ~75 inches of rainfall annually. Surprising to see another team member complaining about having to wear a wet tee shirt in the chill; rain gear seems to keep others dry. Juggling a TV camera for required DIY shots now seems as hazardous as hiking without a support pole with a heavy backpack. The final episode shot shows one 'home-team' member taking a pairfull fall. Unclear if his team is the next pair out. Winning 'Ugh' shot: One team member boiling and eating a large slimy banana slug. While another strung a net and trapped five smaller fish. -- John
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The "painfull fall" mentioned last week was a spinal compression fracture from falling against a tree stump. That put another team out, leaving only four survivalist pairs. Another encounter with a quickly disappearing wolf as the wife does some sun bathing. No face-to-face bear encounters yet, just some worrisome underbrush crashing sounds and unpleasant scat-content analysis. Nice to finally see several members moving around the slippery island with poles for extra support; otherwise they'll have to chopper everyone out. -- John
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After about one week the four remaining teams are linking up. Lack of adequate food is apparent especially among those hiking ~10 miles through the dense Vancouver Island forest with ~60-lb backpacks. Lack of calories brought frequent complaints of weakness. One hiker tossed a stick at a grouse, almost hitting it--while breaking his small GoPro camera. Several team members, skilled with the bows/arrows they packed, might have killed the grouse. Another hiker lost the team's axe, one of 10 items total each team can pack. Brooke, the wife, attached a fire pit to their walled shelter, and spotted a net with floats on the beach. Looks like food, as in earlier "Alone" seasons, will quickly become crucial. The guy who early netted 5 fish at once later had no luck. A comment on screen estimated the large calorie requirement for one of the huskier brother teams. One guy started building a boat, although initially it doesn't appear very sea worthy. No visible predator conflicts this episode, but Brooke videoed a nickel-size spider she felt crawling over her. The ever-helpful editors posted a note that island spider venom can attack the nervous system. -- John

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Teams are linked up after about 11 days, sharing the work load such as fishing. Looks like there's fishing expertise among the 8 remainig survivalists, and adequate food. A crab trap built by one team member, who accidentally cut a finger while carving a branch, didn't work initially and the brothers argued about how crabs would position themselves to eat crushed-bivalve bait. Also, as the husband-wife team cooked and dinned on two plump fish within their shelter, a foreboding on-screen note mentions bears can detect potential food from 20 miles away. Teams are enhancing shelters against upcoming winter weather, and previews warn prolonged rain threatens the habitability of some shelters. The skeleton for the tarp-covered boat is progressing, with the builder admitting it may be too tall for stability in the water. -- John
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Another brother team checked out, leaving only three contestant pairs after ~15 days. One brother thought his daughter's first birthday was more important and his brother didn't want to restrict him. The incessant cold rain (~240 days/year) did muck up some shelter floors, with dire on-screen messages about <95-degree body temperatures and hypothermia. The husband/wife team began a log cabin-style shelter, putting logs vertically in trenches. One member of the huskier-brother team caught 16 medium-size fish; while they dined a teal duck stumbled into camp, immediately killed for their next breakfast. -- John

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A cabin-like shelter with vertical posts and a plastic-sheet roof was finished by the married team. An external fireplace built through one wall should provide warmth as cold weather arrives, although a preview implied the rain-blocking wood poles over it catch fire next week. Brooke filled in wall cracks with moss. The brother team finished their small two-man boat, limited in size by their plastic tarp. Both seemed surprised the vessel worked in calm water. No additional fish were caught initially over a kelp bed near shore. Already, in mid-teens of their stay, the brothers are discussing starvation symptoms. The father-son team, last of the three remaining pairs, discovered the value of two survivalist fishing at the same time. Meanwhile, History Chanel noted there's a new and different Alone show starting next Thursday. -- John
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Squabbling over food broke out within the brother team. With near-starvation setting in after one month, one brother refuses to hunt for smaller sea food when the tide is out. Next week's show title, "Not my Brother's Keeper," implies a growing conflict. Their crab pot was lost when a float marking its location sank at their site cove. Meanwhile, while the husband-wife team is suffering from low calories, too, the husband built a wooden checker board to ease tensions. The wife awoke to hear the cracking sound of wooden chimney poles burning over their fireplace The tall punk-wood poles, initially moist, had dried. She kicked them down from within their shelter. Again, "Alone" announced a new series next week, although nothing is listed in my program guide.
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It's not a new series next week - it's "an all new episode" of Alone
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The married couple bowed out after ~49 days. The wife, Brooke, already svelt when they arrived, was losing too much weight. Brooke's husband built a crab trap as a last resort, but caught mostly lemon-size snails, A foreboding note indicated that type carries a potentially deadly toxin. The show title was misinterpreted earlier above: Brothers Keeper referred to extra food-gathering one undertook when the other developed stomach pains in addition to a chronic condition. Both brothers seemed ill after eating a questionable netted fish. The father-son team got into a squabble over minutia, likely triggered by near-starvation mental strain. Team sharing of food has, not surprisingly, trimmed survivors to only four faster than earlier series, (fhall1 above is right about the absence of another scheduled series.) -- John
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I wanted brooke to win the money , that was one nice cabin they built...


They were in it for the long haul , the other two teams are still using tarps !
and temps down in the upper 20's !
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We find out tonight!
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Brothers Ted and Jim Baird won the survival competition after 75 days when the father-son team tapped out a day earlier. The father,62, and son experienced bad stomach acid reflux and the father required a chopper medical evacuation. The brother's girl friends brought the good news, and were shown a bucket of regularly consumed slimy eel-like gunnel fish that may have given the team a survival edge. The fish were found beneath rocks during low tides. An extra 1-hour show had an interview with the last three contestant pairs, also mentioning a season 5 is coming. Ted and Jim said they hadn't caught one fish with their tarp-lined boat. Brooke and Dave Whipple had extra shots of their cozy cabin, with craft projects such as shell necklaces hanging on walls, explaining they'd built several cabins earlier. Too bad starchy tubers couldn't be gathered to expand diets and prevent slow starvation, but as detailed earlier above a deadly variation of such a plant has a tragic history. -- John

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it's ridiculous that it took them 8-10 days to travese a mere 10 miles. Its not Mt Everest, ferchrissakes. They only get 2 lb rations and each one is one of the teams 10 items. So the hiker should get 3.5 lbs of the total 4 lbs, with the camper person using half a lb as bait for the gulls, ducks, and fish. You use the jacket of the rainsuit to cache most of that stuff up in a tree, use the legs of the rainsuit to carry water. Now, with 30 lbs, instead of 60 lbs, and not having to side-track for water and waste time boiling water, you get to the coast in 4 days. You both carbo-load like hell before you go, so you dont need to eat at all the first day. Then the hiker eats a lb of pemmican(mixed with gorp) per day. you can still go hard for a day after having no food. After a day and a night, the camper should be sending up (agreed upon code) smoke signals, so that the hiker doesn't waste days trying to find his partner, after reaching the coast. Back-blaze the trail as you go, and after eating well and resting a day at the camp, go back, carrying almost nothing, get the cached gear (2 days or less) and come back to coast, (2 days or less). Same 8 days elapsed, but much less danger of getting hurt/sick, much less stress on you.
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I dont see an "edit" button? I hate making long posts, cause I"ve lost too many of them in the past. The camper should make the log rafts for catching fowl, make the 32 fishhooks, and use them for floatsets, reserving the treblehooks for catching fowl. If there's plenty of fish, then the camper should create the tree platform/blind and ladder, for baiting in and arrowing a bear, using the fish and fowl guts as bait. He should also be weaving netting out of the inner strands of the paracord hammock and paracord gillnet. Once they get together, they should make a big wooden mortar and pestle, for juicing the kelp. You cant eat enough kelp to help you any, cause it only offers 50 calories per lb. so you have to juice about 20 lbs of it per day, to get 500 or so calories, but you need the carbs, to keep your brain working properly. Fish and game offer zero carbs, guys.

If there's not enough fish at the site, then the camper should cut a 3 ft wide slice off of the 12x12 tarp, roll it into a tube, stich it with the inner strands of paracord, using a straightened out fishhook, seal the seam with duct tape, turn the tube inside out, tape the seam again. Stuff the tube with force-dried soft debris, sew and seal the ends, for an ensured buoyancy addition to a single layer log raft, so they can both easily move down the coastline, looking for a better location.
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The netting can be used on sapling frames, to catch small mammals, birds, crabs and fish. snares, made out of just picture wire, aint worth a hoot. All they do is teach critters to be scared of your scent. Instead, make brushpiles, small ones, all around your camp, and within 50m, so you dont waste time and calories checking the boxtraps you set in each one pile. Those piles can be firewood, in a pinch. Stuff the brush with grass and leaves, so that small critters feel safe in the piles. bait the piles with cambium and with fish guts. Once you notice that the baits are being taken, set the frames (only) of the traps in the piles, and keep baiting them, the bait being inside the trap frames. In a few more days, if the baits are taken, add the netting around the sides of the boxtraps. let the critters get used to entering the traps for the baits, then add the rear ends of the traps, made out of x'd 1" sticks. continue baiting and waiting. When the critters are entering the traps for the baits, add the trigger sticks and front doors of the traps. but dont set them in any way. Finally, of course, set the traps. In this way, you are teaching the critters to consider your scent to mean " food", and you wont have any misses teaching them otherwise (as will nearly always be the case with snares made of picture wire). Cordage snares aren't even worth making. AVOID long traplines, they are a waste of time and calories (when you dont have REAL snares, killpoles, real baits and scent-hiders, steel traps, etc)
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shelters dont FEED you, and the calories and time spent on building them is wasted, when none of you are going to last even 90 days. You just want a little sleeping shelter, and then a 'work-awning". YOu make the sleeping shelter very low, like 3.5 ft high, and just big enough for your raised bed, any gear that critters might damage, and your sleeping bag. The 9x9 remainder of the 12x12 tarp will suffice, if you set it up properly. The 10x10 "camera' tarp, you are not permitted to make into any 'permanent" part of yoru shelter (or anything else) nor can you cut it up. So the 10x10 becomes the work awning, lashed with loops and toggles atop 7 ft tall poles, which are tied to stakes you've driven. One person sleeps in the sleeping shelter, the other person lowers the awning at night, to about 4 ft off of the ground, as a precaution against windstorms and to retain heat better. the sides and end of the awning can be closed in with brush, debris, sod or dirt, but such materials are far too heavy (once rained upon) to be over your head! Supporting them takes a lot of wasted time and effort, making and erecting big log frameworks. To hell with that baloney!

You want a Dakota firepit, with a long, tapering entrance for 6" and smaller logs. Start a Siberian fire lay in the pit and then just feed the logs into the coals. Dont waste effort b bucking them, or splitting them. You dont want to cut big trees, it's too exhausting and dangerous and you're forbidden to cut live trees on Vancouver, anyway. Stick to cutting/breaking off dead branches or dead standing, 6" or smaller trees.
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shelters dont FEED you, and the calories and time spent on building them is wasted, when none of you are going to last even 90 days. You just want a little sleeping shelter, and then a 'work-awning". YOu make the sleeping shelter very low, like 3.5 ft high, and just big enough for your raised bed, any gear that critters might damage, and your sleeping bag. The 9x9 remainder of the 12x12 tarp will suffice, if you set it up properly. The 10x10 "camera' tarp, you are not permitted to make into any 'permanent" part of yoru shelter (or anything else) nor can you cut it up. So the 10x10 becomes the work awning, lashed with loops and toggles atop 7 ft tall poles, which are tied to stakes you've driven. One person sleeps in the sleeping shelter, the other person lowers the awning at night, to about 4 ft off of the ground, as a precaution against windstorms and to retain heat better. the sides and end of the awning can be closed in with brush, debris, sod or dirt, but such materials are far too heavy (once rained upon) to be over your head! Supporting them takes a lot of wasted time and effort, making and erecting big log frameworks. To hell with that baloney!

You want a Dakota firepit, with a long, tapering entrance for 6" and smaller logs. Start a Siberian fire lay in the pit and then just feed the logs into the coals. Dont waste effort b bucking them, or splitting them. You dont want to cut big trees, it's too exhausting and dangerous and you're forbidden to cut live trees on Vancouver, anyway. Stick to cutting/breaking off dead branches or dead standing, 6" or smaller trees.
Wow. Nice contributions. Hope some on the next season follow your suggestions and avoid the slow starvation most have suffered before them. Recall the winning team in this last Vancouver Island season agreed with your minimal shelter philosophy, discussing it in the extra 1-hour show. The calories burned by Brooke in building their cabin seemed to have done her in. (Nervous about losing long posts here, too, and try to remember pasting repeat copies in one Notepad file as I go along.) -- John
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Hey Arle ,
you have some good ideas , but easier said than done on
a lot of these survival shows.. , many are confident of there skills and
still can't finish for one reason or another.


So, you going to try to get on Alone next season ???
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Amateurs. Building an elaborate shelter, instead of procuring adequate food income. Taking the wrong gear. Not knowing what to do with the gear, or in what order to do it. They had the option (now removed) of taking a 2 gallon metal bear canister, and instead took a 2 qt pot, so what does that tell you about what they know?

You dont want an axe, ferrorod, big saw, belt knife. Instead, you want a Cold steel shovel, a Silky saw blade, held in the visegrip of a modified Crunch multitool. 2 picks, not 4. The 2 that nobody knows to take will feed you just fine. A PARACORD hammock, and a PARACORD gillnet. Unravel them, remove the outer sheathing and weave 100m of 6 ft wide, 3"mesh netting. You can weave 200 sq ft per day, and each day, hang the previous day's production as a gillnet.

When all done, you'll be able to close off an entire cove. Bait the head of the cove with fish guts, as the tide comes in, and as the tide starts out, close off the mouth of the cove with the net. Using poles driven down into the mud, move the net towards shore, trapping the fish where you can dip net them into a deep pool, and pen them up there, enabling you to spear a day's supply of fish in 15 minutes, any time that you wish. The penned fish will serve as bait for seals and bears, too.:-) Make a ladder, and a tree platform-blind. bait in bears and arrow them. Boil offf seawater all day, every day, for a week or more, recovering enough salt to preserve 100+ lbs of fatty bear meat.

Take one of Chief Aj's slingbows, with 4 of the 6 arrows featuring 4 tined fishing heads. You can swiftly convert those into 32 fishhooks. Take 8 treblehooks and the line. bait them with roasted cambium, set them on small log rafts, for ducks and gulls. Tie a 3 lbs drowning rock about a foot from each hook, so that the ruckus ends in 1 second flat, and the suffering is ended in 10 seconds or less

Make a big, wooden mortar and pestile. Use it to juice 20 lbs of kelp every day. Have to soak the kelp in freshwater and boil the resulting juice, but it's 200 carlories fish and game offer no carbs. per hour of carbs. can't eat enough kelp, it gives you the trots. It's only got 50 calories per lb. gotta juice it.
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